Was this on purpose or overlooked?

Hi there Devs,

I was just hoping if you guys can look into this. The new mythic warrior hammer/maul level 51 stats seem to have not progressed compared to other classes. I was wondering why that is. Was this done on purpose or was it an oversight?

Please see stats below.

Warrior 46 mythic weapons:

Maul of Grit: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 275 Health, 48 Armor
Maul of Might: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.78% Crit, 275 Health
Maul of Toughness: 128.3 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.78% Crit, 275 Health, 48 Armor
Maul of Vigor: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 275 Health

Mage 46 mythic weapons:

Staff of Willpower: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 82 Health
Staff of Wisdom: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health
Staff of Wits: 200.3 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health, 48 Armor
Staff of Reason: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 82 Health, 48 Armor

Rogue Mythic 46 weapons:

Blades of Deftness: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 82 Health
Blades of Fervor: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health
Blades of Guile: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 82 Health, 48 Armor
Blades of Tact: 195.3 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health, 48 Armor


New 51 mythic weapons:

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Arcane 46 weapons just for comparison as well:

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Just seems like there was no progression with the base stats of warrior mythic weapon 41 vs 51 specifically the damage when compared to other classes. That is a 10 level difference but the damage stats of warrior weapon are worse at 51. Just wondering if this was on purpose or an oversight.

Yeah its cool damage of maul.

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Originally Posted by Midievalmodel

Hi there Devs,

I was just hoping if you guys can look into this. The new mythic warrior hammer/maul level 51 stats seem to have not progressed compared to other classes. I was wondering why that is. Was this done on purpose or was it an oversight?

Please see stats below.

Warrior 41 mythic weapons:

Maul of Grit: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 275 Health, 48 Armor
Maul of Might: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.78% Crit, 275 Health
Maul of Toughness: 128.3 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.78% Crit, 275 Health, 48 Armor
Maul of Vigor: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 275 Health

Mage 41 mythic weapons:

Staff of Willpower: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 82 Health
Staff of Wisdom: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health
Staff of Wits: 200.3 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health, 48 Armor
Staff of Reason: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 82 Health, 48 Armor

Rogue Mythic 41 weapons:

Blades of Deftness: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 82 Health
Blades of Fervor: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health
Blades of Guile: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 82 Health, 48 Armor
Blades of Tact: 195.3 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health, 48 Armor


New 51 mythic weapons:

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Arcane 46 weapons just for comparison as well:

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Just seems like there was no progression with the base stats of warrior mythic weapon 41 vs 51 specifically the damage when compared to other classes. That is a 10 level difference but the damage stats of warrior weapon are worse at 51. Just wondering if this was on purpose or an oversight.

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Nice study Midieval,

In a PVE perspective ive also asked this question giving the following expample:
Lvl47 Flameforged hammer of iron grace
105.3Dps 53Str 30Dex 3.66%Crit 51Armor

Lvl46 Glintstone Aegis of Might
117.3Dps 62Str 22Dex 3.71%Crit 255health 327Armor

Lvl46 Glintstone Maul of Might
136.8Dps 63Str 23Dex 3.78%Crit 275health

Lvl41 Crackling bonesaw of tactics
131.7Dps 51Str 9Dex 20Int 4.65%Crit 131Armor

I also see lack of thought and study.

I will be the antagonist here but in my personal(and of lcouse i may be wrong) i just feel STS is rushed to release new content and gear that they do not 'properly' test & evaluate what they are realsing, its like a desperate/panic response to the community demands and they just roll with the punches, start realizing the gaps when the 'forumers' complain.

Its a tough situation for STS, i can really sense their effort but i honestly feel its misplaced. I dont even think that a designated STS employee is tasked to play the game as a 'sleeper' imbeded in the community and study game interface and ingame social interface as if he/she were a real player.

Well as one dev responded to my thread they are thanking the community for thier patience and they have a plan.... Ok, being the antagonist again.... If the last 2-3 updates had horrible feedback, i didnt even bother to reply to this last one, isnt that a sign that there is something missing or wrong ....

Thanks for reading.

And keep it up :)

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Originally Posted by Ireliaa

thats old pic of arcanes, it has changed after expansion; dagger 244 staff 228 dps but skill dmg still the same.

Well you should try the weapon before judge fully. maybe it grants more dmg like old ollerus. and also skill damage is another factor
and slight error: lvls, that myhics weapons are 46 not 41

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Oops yes thanks Ire. My mistake. Those mythic 46 were mislabeled as 41 on my part.

Lollll.......

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Originally Posted by lvlzone

Its probably damage maul. It will have low DPS but much more damage than other weapons.

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Can you explain what you truly mean by damage maul? The glintstone maul at lvl 46 is also considered a damage maul Isn't it? But yet the lvl 46 mythic maul has more dps than the lvl 51. So I would have to assume the skill damage of new lvl 51 maul will not be much different compared to lvl 46.

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Originally Posted by Ireliaa

thats old pic of arcanes, it has changed after expansion; dagger 244 staff 228 dps but skill dmg still the same.

Well you should try the weapon before judge fully. maybe it grants more dmg like old ollerus. and also skill damage is another factor
and slight error: lvls, that myhics weapons are 46 not 41

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While I agree with ya that I should try out the weapon first. I don't think it will be a while before I get a hold of this weapon. In addition I'm comparing apples to apples here. I simply put the arcane weapons in there just as food for thought but I am comparing lvl 46 mythic maul to lvl 51 mythic maul. Those two are the same mythic rarity and same maul type weapons. The only difference is the level of the two weapons which might factor in a bit in terms of the actual skill damage one would see once equipping the weapon . But it's real darn hard to not deduce that there is not much difference in skill damage when I look at these stats especially with my experience of how stats normally work in this game.

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Originally Posted by Midievalmodel

Can you explain what you truly mean by damage maul? The glintstone maul at lvl 46 is also considered a damage maul Isn't it? But yet the lvl 46 mythic maul has more dps than the lvl 51. So I would have to assume the skill damage of new lvl 51 maul will not be much different compared to lvl 46.

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They mean the arcane maul, level 31. It has very low dps, but huge damage (like twice the damage than dps).

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Originally Posted by Befs

They mean the arcane maul, level 31. It has very low dps, but huge damage (like twice the damage than dps).

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Yeh that thing is like hitting someone with your house

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Originally Posted by konafez

Yeh that thing is like hitting someone with your house

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Lmao, gave me a quick chuckle.

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Originally Posted by Midievalmodel

Hi there Devs,

I was just hoping if you guys can look into this. The new mythic warrior hammer/maul level 51 stats seem to have not progressed compared to other classes. I was wondering why that is. Was this done on purpose or was it an oversight?

Please see stats below.

Warrior 46 mythic weapons:

Maul of Grit: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 275 Health, 48 Armor
Maul of Might: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.78% Crit, 275 Health
Maul of Toughness: 128.3 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.78% Crit, 275 Health, 48 Armor
Maul of Vigor: 138.1 DPS, 63 STR, 23 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 275 Health

Mage 46 mythic weapons:

Staff of Willpower: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 82 Health
Staff of Wisdom: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health
Staff of Wits: 200.3 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health, 48 Armor
Staff of Reason: 212.8 DPS, 25 STR, 61 INT, 82 Health, 48 Armor

Rogue Mythic 46 weapons:

Blades of Deftness: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.04% Dodge, 82 Health
Blades of Fervor: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health
Blades of Guile: 209.7 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 82 Health, 48 Armor
Blades of Tact: 195.3 DPS, 7 STR, 60 DEX, 20 INT, 3.78% Crit, 82 Health, 48 Armor


New 51 mythic weapons:

Attachment 150654


Arcane 46 weapons just for comparison as well:

Attachment 150655


Just seems like there was no progression with the base stats of warrior mythic weapon 41 vs 51 specifically the damage when compared to other classes. That is a 10 level difference but the damage stats of warrior weapon are worse at 51. Just wondering if this was on purpose or an oversight.

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Maybe they are purposely overlooking this thread and a lot more other similar ones :D