Correct me if i'm wrong, but only #1 place holders will receive the appropriate Vanity Banner. Like Snalin said, it was just a ''plan to'' and not a decision.
Again, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but only #1 place holders will receive the appropriate Vanity Banner. Like Snalin said, it was just a ''plan to'' and not a decision.
Again, correct me if i'm wrong.
Nice decision.
But for me, the more important is that there is no point about whole this 'flag' thing. People wants to win (kill), not carry flags to win the game.
What is the point about winning it?
What do we get from winning?
People want to have more 'kills' because they want something to show others that they are strong!
I guess whole this idea is to have people to play together as a party to carry more flags, should be a strategy game, not a power competition.
If we focus on flag more, we can focus more on class balance in party (number of classes) and strategies (like move how and where to where, sacrifice score; how to hold other team even whole team got killed to have one player to score it to win.)
I think people simply don't care about it, because there is no reward from it. If People can achieve something valuable (leaderboard banner, chest, some gold, not a regular loot items, it is not attractive), then people will try to play this game more properly.
For more, those who like to get kills, you can make 1 on 1 arena. Farming is not good because it is usually mobbing. If I have to choose to fight with someone and lose from someone, even it is 100 times, I can't complain about it because it was my choice. You should make it this way.
I tried three pvp just before I write this.
Some players were doing 1 on 1 in a spawn, some went in there to kill them, 1 on 1s were complaining, another one was telling them to move to a corner, another one sneaked and was carrying flag, another on was calling him a noob and telling him stop carrying flags, a rogue just grabbed a flag by herself and started to run and ordering me to protect her while we were facing 4 warriors, some didn't care anything but mobbing people.... sorry for saying this but it was a mess.
My point is, while everyone cares about only number of kill, ctf is meaningless.
You should add something to encourage people to play as it is made, or/and make a place to get 'kills'
And out of subject, but hope you guys change party system for pvp too. I tried to join pvp with 2 of my friends, and it's so hard to find a server that has three empty spots on one side.
I want to play as a team(isn't it made to play that way?) with my friends and party who I can communicate better on /partytalk and know each others better. But the party system right now is hard to do this but usually make us to play with random people. This lead to bad team, and following with farming.
Sorry for a long post. Thanks for reading.
I agree with mstj. CtF is a huge mess right now. Maybe they should just remove the k/d from the leaderboards and add a team goal wins/losses. Then make a 1v1 arena for the players who are all about the k/d ratios and lb. Also a death match arena for FFA (no teams).
This way everyone gets what they want. However, if only they just brought in the arena layout and mechanics from DL (traps, doors, etc) maybe CtF on AL would've been played differently on AL.
Yep really a mess. New mess. Friends are getting together some go and the red team and some on the blue. Strangers are wiped out. Realized this yesterday but too late. k/d. lol. Flags are captured no resistance. Something to look out for. I stood in a corner while everyone chatted and laughed. Lol.
There is no CTF in PvP. This is how my matches usually go:
- we group up and start hunting the opposing team
- someone eventually quits the game which unbalances the game in favor of one group
- when the match is reduced to 5v3 or even 5v2 the winning team starts to flag
- the rest of the opposing team leaves cause they're overpowered and match usually ends without all 5 flags being captured
This has been repeating during the last 2 weeks and has become very tiresome.
PvP is farming kills and farming flags. There is no strategy, no team competition, no real incentive to win as a team. I just mind my kill count and snag a flag here and there to keep myself on lb.
Even matches happen once in about a dozen matches started and they dont last long since someone gets tired of killing and leaves the arena. Why? No incentive to win over the opposing team, just kill, kill, kill...
I'm stopping PvPing since its become more tedious than farming elites. There is no thrill, no competition, no real reason to participate in PvP unless you want to ruthlessly annihilate the opposing team till they all leave. PvP is nothing but a grind to get the achievement points if you care for them.
Give us true CTF where you wont count kills and deaths but team wins.
Give us 1v1 or 3v3 deathmatch for kills.
Give us a better party system so we can do guild wars.
these posts are getting way off topic.
lets talk about the threads title right?
Good so lets talk about what happened last week.
this...
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...2A6C2ACF38.jpg
this lvl 2 was able to accomplish this is one week.
Sam the 9999 caps is crazy in a week but maybe just maybe a lvl 2 could do this And I was a little intrigued
but then came the kill farming :(
major bummer
20k kills in not even a week, plus 10k flags in a few days? That's simply called a hack or whatever.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure he has some kind of flasher or software to patch his stats. He can put any amount of PvE kills or PvP flags and kills. They'll be on server as well. If that's not the case, then there's really something wrong and devs should look into it ASAP.
+1 then me to guys...
in these days i start to see around some guys who transfer kills and flags ...They group and wait until everyone left , then start to transfer ..
Our main problem is you can join em only if you are started togheter or have em on your fri list , firstly urgently all people must have an access to the matches who continue like 2-2 or 4-2 or etc must be able to join in any matches +1/-1 leveled...
i was agreed for 1vs1 or 3vs3 deatchmates that was sound so good but even i see these guys transferin i get afraid that more of em will start to do it, also it will be so easy for em to transfer on a 1vs1 or 3vs3 .
Staffs need to start to check or add a control system for that ASAP ...
coz all our efford will gonne for nothing ...
Hope we will have an answer about this important suject ...
its so important for the future of this game ...
good looking out sts you guys have a great team so fast so pro
all back to honest legit players :)
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...E275712002.jpg
so he got banned? lol
So... I made a level 2 and I've started flagging...
Obviously I don't play 24x7, but....will I get banned if my toon shows up in LB one day?
....can almost hear *burn the witch, burn!* in the distance :grief:
I think you're fine if "one day" isn't tomorrow or day after
So can someone or Devs/Mods explain the definition of illegal and legal farming?
- Farming novice player with a twink and farming in spawn spots is legal
- sharing accounts with other people is illegal
- farming naked toons is half-legal depending on how much hatred do you get for it from the community, and if your ego tells you to farm that way 1-5th place in a week, you will be banned.
Anyone else? Or Devs to speak?
Good to clear before peeps do wrong things. Wrong but no knows, must educated, make system better.
A simple way to keep your toon clean is to ask yourself "Is the other player trying to kill me". If the answer is yes, then you are not kill farming. With true kill farming, you either control both characters, or the person controlling the 'enemy' is doing what you ask so they are NOT trying to kill you at all. If you have no control over the enemy, you are not kill farming, plain and simple. If you do, you are.
You're obviously joking...if your serious the answer is no.
how can u expect a mod/dev or anybody explain the definition of illegal or legal farming if u don't you don't define your definition of farming?
your 3rd statement. its illegal under any circumstances
from everything I've seen i cant tell u this,
u can kill farm yourself with 2 devises
with 4 devices u can spawn kill farm yourself
with 10 devices u can spawn kill farm yourself very easy, very very fast and u will be uninterrupted
bottom line if u spawn kill yourself and your investigated you will be banned.
huh? oh replace the "is" for a "if" i get it.
i see from your sig, u haven't played since the lvl 16 cap. ctf wasn't available then.
ctf in al is 5 players 2 teams
i understand some of you make trying to make light of the situation but all the the players that actually fought their way onto the leader boards this subject of farm killing isn't funny at all.
yeah this is really a big problem. people sometimes ask me if i farm killed, because i have 1k kill and 0death. Well i am clean with my stats because I didn't kill farm at all. I tried making 0death after several failures. I even deleted
when i had 400kill 1death. now i see a lot of people kill farm and try to make 0death. Where is the fun if someone use many devices to kill farm and make stats? if this is possible, then everyone can easily get warmonger title within maybe a month if they spend a lot of time each day just kill farming. I know some people who is in leaderboard did kill farming. I had my best gears and played really carefully with my friends not to die. I even see a random noob player who has 500kills and 0death and everyone would know that guy kill farmed. Well i know some people try hard not to die, but kill farmers should get banned or at least their account should be refreshed. If kill farming is possible now, why would people join pvp arena and play with others? This kill farming should be dealt somehow. otherwise pvp won't be fun anymore.
Also if kill farming is possible, then i can just ask my good friends to make another toon and let me kill them for few hours, then i will easily make warmonger within even a week. Or I can just make account on my computer and play with my iphone at the same time to make free kills. Trust me, this kill farming will ruin the whole leaderboard and pvp concept. Please do something devs.
First I would lik e to thank you for making suggestions. However, making a limit on flags is unreasonable. It is already hard to ctf with only 5 per game. Sharing flags with other members if your team is a great idea but many games i enter I am the only one who wants to flag anyway. Your suggestion would prevent me from flagging in that type of environment.
I was constantly farmed when I first started pvp. I just learned to be stronger: respecced and bought better gear. Now I can defend myself rather well. My advice is to get stronger. Oh and I never forget the ones who farmed me when I was new :devilish:
Many players are actually ready to die for you if you pay them. If STS makes a rule that you cant earn money by dying or you can't pay anyone n ask to die for you, maybe this can end. For now, I really dont see an issue if someone is getting more kills than others. Moreover, its really difficult to even be on leaderboard nowadays with all the ganging in pvp. Regarding farming, one person sets the trend, others just follow or do it better. Also to the one's who are looking at Trueorigin's 50k kills, he didn't reach there from 0 kills in 9hrs, has been on LB since long now.
Bottom line, most of them farm, some farm more than the others.
So many rules for PvP...
If I actually saw someone banned for anything other than hacks in PvP I'd quit playing this game straight away.
It's CTF but it's also Player VS Player. You're allowed to kill other players, you're allowed to capture flags. If people pay others to die for them then that's that. Go out and earn some gold yourself and you can do the same. On my main I can get anywhere between 25,000 - 30,000 when doing dailies.
oh cool
My kdr reads about 700:100. Very bad. But that's because back when I had crappy gear I used to go out for a match or two just for the achievs. Imo, kill farming means chasing a person and killing him/her again, and again, and yet again. That always used to happen to me. Finally I geared up and earned that 100 while gaining maybe 20 deaths. So at least imo, kill farming is when you farm kills of an enemy.
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Players judge you on how your character looks.
What if I went to a match and wore nooby gear?
I would get farmed.
Awesome!
I do that now. I wear good armor under vanity. Then when the smoke settles people ask what I wear. I put on my lvl 16 chain and hat then take of the vanity. I usually get you are joking right? Ahh bait taken... I ask, Would you like to test? I then 1v1 them in the chain. I win some and I lose some. Rogues hurt a lot like that. In the end though it is fun.