About Lifegiver...

Everytime I play a map for ex. Tindirin, Shuyal and WT4. There will always be "this guy" who crys for mana and threatens to leave game lol.

I saw a lot of pro mages using heal in KM3 and such, so I asked myself are mages supposed to be crowd control or support type.

My pros and cons for heal:

PRO:
-Heals 100% mana for all warrs and rouges in lobby.
-Saves you alot of potions.

CONS:
-Takes up a skill place. I would rather use shield or an attack skill.
-Attracts aggro which can kill you very quick (espically if your mage).
-Makes runs (espically solos) slow.

I'm currently using fireball, timeshift, ice, and arcane shield.

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In short: heal never unless PvP spec


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A good mage never uses heal in any sort of PvE
A good mage will always use heal in PvP, except some 1on1 situations, f.e. vs rogues... or skill switching in other fights...

Just say pots. That's what I do. A mage who isn't running 4 attack skills or 3 skills and shield isn't doing his/her job.

If i use heal in pve i just wait till the pull is done and heal after killing the mobs to dont aggro and going suicide....

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The problem with life giver is that on difficult maps, you are dead by the time you charge heal. Even if you don't die, it has a long cool down, so you gotta use pots anyways. On easy maps you don't need heal, so what's the point in wasting a skill slot.

Any mage who considers himself an end game player should consider how crippling heal is to your party. There's no room for heal if you have clock, gale / fire, ice and light. I mean, which one of those would you give up for heal? None if you ask me

rogue heal packs works better than mage heal it doesn't aggro and can be pick up anytime .......

Figured I'd add that since the update today, I'm getting 1100 hp per tick for 5 seconds from heal upgrade. It may have a place in elites now. But that's a big maybe.

I would use Lifegiver if the cooldown was reduced and the amount of health it gives increases.
For elites, heal is a bit iffy. Until Lifegiver gets these buffs ^^ I doubt it'll be useful in PvE or elites.

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Originally Posted by shinyx

Figured I'd add that since the update today, I'm getting 1100 hp per tick for 5 seconds from heal upgrade. It may have a place in elites now. But that's a big maybe.

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A very big one, that's for sure.
Crowd control will play one the most important role in new elite contents, so i hardly believe lifegiver could replace an active skill or even shield, but we'll see, can't wait ^.^

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Originally Posted by KnowledgeFTW

Everytime I play a map for ex. Tindirin, Shuyal and WT4. There will always be "this guy" who crys for mana and threatens to leave game lol.

I saw a lot of pro mages using heal in KM3 and such, so I asked myself are mages supposed to be crowd control or support type.

My pros and cons for heal:

PRO:
-Heals 100% mana for all warrs and rouges in lobby.
-Saves you alot of potions.

CONS:
-Takes up a skill place. I would rather use shield or an attack skill.
-Attracts aggro which can kill you very quick (espically if your mage).
-Makes runs (espically solos) slow.

I'm currently using fireball, timeshift, ice, and arcane shield.

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well, "crys" for mana is ok. I met some ppl from pin*y guild whos very annoying, they insulted me for not give them mana while fighting ursoth. they keep talking the whole fight. and other player in the room found it annoying too. I wish STS have an option to mute general chat so I dont have to see/read those fcking annoying text bubble.

Lolz when player cry for mana i say use pots if he say he leave the run i say good leave [emoji14] dont get me wrong i do give mana to team mates but i hate it when they say give me mana -.- just pissing me off...

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Originally Posted by frans3q

well, "crys" for mana is ok. I met some ppl from pin*y guild whos very annoying, they insulted me for not give them mana while fighting ursoth. they keep talking the whole fight. and other player in the room found it annoying too. I wish STS have an option to mute general chat so I dont have to see/read those fcking annoying text bubble.

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Hehe same here I got called a noob mage because I didn't use heal in an event pug >.<
Yeh, pug
Ugh

Too poor for mana pots lol
Yeah its annoying when somebody ask for mana and he wont fight

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I never used heal in PvE EVER I'm lvl 40 and I run solo sometimes until kraken and I don't use heal maybe people tend to beg for mama coz they can't buy pots and if someone threatened me that they leave map lol then leave I can solo lol no problem I soloed pt1 and 2 when ice bugged it took me around 30 mins without mythic and without lix except luck com on people use pots and the build I use is fb gale light clock in any map just like some pros but I'm not considering myself one but please there are times and places to use heal so stop begging and start playing

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Originally Posted by Aerodude

I never used heal in PvE EVER I'm lvl 40 and I run solo sometimes until kraken and I don't use heal maybe people tend to beg for mama coz they can't buy pots and if someone threatened me that they leave map lol then leave I can solo lol no problem I soloed pt1 and 2 when ice bugged it took me around 30 mins without mythic and without lix except luck com on people use pots and the build I use is fb gale light clock in any map just like some pros but I'm not considering myself one but please there are times and places to use heal so stop begging and start playing

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Yes don't use heal in PvE unless your doing a easy map like ydra. Heal is still pretty useless xD so don't ever use it unless your doing PvP.

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Originally Posted by KnowledgeFTW

Yes don't use heal in PvE unless your doing a easy map like ydra. Heal is still pretty useless xD so don't ever use it unless your doing PvP.

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Even in any map I don't

Why is shield preferred over heals?

Do any dots overwrite?

Shield is prefered cause its the only way we survive. Heal takes forever and barely heals

Is not only a matter of long cool down.. using heal, especially with the regrown skill, causes an insane mobs aggro on the poor mage and in hard elite is a big problem, not only for the mage but for all the party.
Shield guarantees survivabilty and, with the 2 secs of invulnerability, you've also the time to fix a little better the crowd or, eventually, clock'em'all :D

I use lifegiver atm. Would be nice to pick up lightning instead of healing ppl. Hmmm

Oh lol, you really give any..... Crap..... To such »»»cave men/women? People who threaten you to leave are anyway of no use at all xD.


Lifegiver is a waste of skill points on pve and as mage your primary focus should be crowd and control if you want to survive any longer.