Im just wondering if luck helps
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Im just wondering if luck helps
saw someone looted abyssal cowl on random run
I looted sunken dress on third run, no reroll
Loot reroll only works upto mythic rarity items. I'm pretty sure you don't need any luck to loot arcanes.
Arc drops alone random doesn't need luck
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but how about zavier? devs said reroll can get to arc eggs at zavierQuote:
Originally Posted by Roycedamagnet
You can, people just hear a naritive and go with it(usually a negitive one). It will depend on if the arcane loot is in the same loot table as other drops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freckert
thats because there are mythic rarity in the lootableQuote:
Originally Posted by Freckert
common > rare > epic > legendary > mythic > arcane > heroic
supposing you initial drop is epic and you rerolled, it will become a step higher to legend.
If your initial is legend and there is an arc loot without mythic then it stays in legend.
The reason why i don't use luck on zavier is due to the high arcane drops,
imagine your initial drop was supposed to be armored zhulong, however it rerolled to heroic blight, STONKS
bruh? ik about that hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by xsilentninjax
i dont ask about your explanation for egg zavier loot system
im questioning the statement from roycedamagnet, he said reroll can only upto mythic/maximum mythic only. In the meantime reroll can get up to arc, just like what u explain. Read again bruh haha from my question and my quote from royce.
and in this event we can get arc item bruh haha
you r the one who didnt get what im askin
Your post is not correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsilentninjax
I'm pretty sure devs said loot reroll WONT affect your odds at getting arcanes in anyway. Here's the screenie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freckert
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a67e40acc9.jpg
Your point caps at mythics. But in the case of arcanes and heroics, you don't reroll at all. When you see a reroll message after looting an arcane, you would have gotten the same arcane loot even without elixir. In order words, loot reroll on arcanes/heroics doesn't upgrade your loot, you just get the same initial loot. The message is fugazi.
You are forgetting the other 80% of scenarios friend. What if you loot a common/rare/epic/legendary/mythic and reroll into an arcane? Luck re-roll would help in this case. Luck reroll only doesnt do anything if you already looted an arcane item.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roycedamagnet
It's best to think of reroll as a second chance to get something better or of the same rarity if you have not done so already.
Ultimately it can only help not hurt.
I understand your point but you can't directly reroll an arcane from a common item that you initially looted. Check the screenshot that I shared, reroll happens within 2 categories : [Common, rare, epic] and [Legendary, mythic,set, vanity, spirit]. For example, when you loot a common, you could reroll to get an epic or rare. Similarly, when you loot a legendary you can reroll to get a mythic. However, you can't reroll from a common all the way upto a mythic either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spheresome
This is my understanding of the explanation from devs.
Arcanes and heroics on the other hand are independent from these categories. You either loot them or you don't. No rerolls whatsoever.
I have seen people reroll Arcane's I still have a screenshot of a friend in eggzavier rerolling into an arcane pet. When dev's say that you can reroll into the next rarity loot table I believe devs mean if you initally roll a [Common, rare, epic], if your reroll is within [Legendary, mythic,set, vanity, spirit] it counts as a reroll, same goes for the rest of the rest of the rarity tables.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roycedamagnet
And nowhere do they state that you can only move up one table at a time. Even if this were the case: [Legendary, mythic,set, vanity, spirit], is still in the table below arcane + heroic, and there are legendary as well as vanity drops from the boss
ok i agree, but i just want to askQuote:
Originally Posted by Roycedamagnet
i got arcane egg, in the chat table show reroll
next the ONLY item i loot arcane egg, AND whats the item FROM REROLL IT SELF? if Arcane is not coming from reroll?
if in the chat said i reroll, i should get at least item in reroll table which are common or rare or epic or legendary or mythic or spirit or set, right? but i only got 1 item after reroll which is arcane egg. So why Reroll showed up in my chat table if i dont get any other item beside arcane egg?
ill show you the picture and please read carefully my statement,
i repeat once again
i have reroll but i only got 1 item which is Arcane egg, and i dont get any other item. I suppose get item at least epic or rare or any rarity from reroll table, and like you said or futumsh said (arcane heroic) is not on the table of reroll, you get inital item. So??
in this picture i reroll 3 times, and the only item i got is arc egg gold nekro
If reroll i supposed to get at least any other item which are not arcane nor heroic. Because arcane and heroic : no reroll, you get the initial item
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...424b6ef5bf.jpg
This probably means u re rolled 3 times between the first 2 categories and scored the arc. E.g. say you were supposed to get lucky egg which happened to be the best epic so it can’t give u anything better from this category so it picks something from the next category/loot table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freckert
If it’s true that there was no other item then you re-rolled an already re-rolled item. That’s pretty coolQuote:
Originally Posted by Freckert
so it means, reroll can get up to arcane?? hahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Azerothraven
just from futumsh said,
arcane, heroic : no reroll, you get initial item
so wheres my other item from the reroll?
and for ur info i get that gold nekro from normal mobs in kt4 not from zavier itself, and i supposed to get at least anothe item that can be common, rare, epic, legend, set, spirit like futumsh said. you can see others got COMMON chest, which copper chest.
so i must be got other item beside arc eggs because arc eggs doesnt need reroll just like futumsh said, and reroll table doesnt include arcane.
plat history helps at events like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Koruto
Farmed 2.4k tokens already still 0 arc drop xd smhh unlucky at its peak [emoji2961]
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Yes but it depends on the event. This wouldn't work on something like the elite cryostar where the loot is granted into your inventory instead as a drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freckert
I'd like to believe that, but don't keep my hopes high...Quote:
Originally Posted by reyals
Out of 100+ runs, only got an arc shog recipe so far. FML.
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Sort of stupid how there’s some players who I know have been getting 4-5 arcanes within 50-60 runs. Then there’s players who have did 150+ and have not dropped a single arcane.
Lmao stop spreading things from ppl who are flexing like hell if u used common sense u would atleast figure out that there is no way and i mean NO WAY a player can get 4-5 arcanrs in 60 runs so chill outQuote:
Originally Posted by RedeZy
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I know for a fact it’s possible, like I said, people I know, I’ve seen majority of the drops, I was there for most of the runs, it’s very possible but very unlikely of occurring.
If ur initial drop is an arcane and u rerolled, it retains because Arcanes/heroics are of highest rarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freckert
If ur initial drop is legendary and above, reroll behaviour would roll a second time for a CHANCE for better loot. It either retains ur initial roll (if the reroll doesn't pull a higher rarity), otherwise it jumps to a higher rarity, and yes u can reroll upto arcane/heroic rarity if the lootable avails and if it can be affected by luck.
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Thats called probability and variable changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedeZy
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^Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo
This is correct
If anyone still has doubt, here you go:
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Originally Posted by FutumshThat's correct, though unlikely, since unless there's nothing less rare than mythic in the loot table, the second roll probably won't be better than the first, so it would stick with the first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thewolfbull
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Originally Posted by FutumshNo, for the example of the first roll being a mythic, it rerolls from everything. If the second roll happens to be an arcane, you get an arcane. It's more likely that the second roll won't be better though, since the better rarity stuff is... more rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanefid
Heres the most simple explanationQuote:
Originally Posted by Ebereasider
i)If u loot an item from ( common,rare,epic) u reroll into a better loot in that class only it may include same class or higher
eg: rare item rerolls into rare or epic but not common
ii) if u loot from (legendary,mythic,set,vanity) ,
Same process as before
iii) if u loot from( arcane,heroic) u get a different loot from the same class
eg: if u loot arcane u get another arcane from rerolls
Conclusion:
i) rerolls doesnt increase your chance in looting arcanes
ii) it doesnt increase your chance of costlier items like armor as helm ,armor and belt is not "better" loot than the other
eg : you may reroll sunken armor into chas helm
Or you could reroll sunken helm ro abyssal armor
Hope this puts an end to the debate
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LOL, so MANY things are WRONG in your explanation:
In case of common, rare, epic you are guaranteed to get better rarity, if the loot table has it. Rare won't reroll into rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boneybro
In case of arcane or heroic in initial roll, there wont be a rerollQuote:
iii) if u loot from( arcane,heroic) u get a different loot from the same class
eg: if u loot arcane u get another arcane from rerolls
Reroll will not increase the drop rate of arcanes, but it will give you a 2nd try. So it does indeed increase your chance as you are getting 2x pull from loot table, but you may still fail to get arcanes in 2nd try.Quote:
Conclusion:
i) rerolls doesnt increase your chance in looting arcanes
As the dev said, initial arcane item doesn't rerollQuote:
eg : you may reroll sunken armor into chas helm
Or you could reroll sunken helm ro abyssal armor
farmed 4k tokens only arc shog recipe i got lmao
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bs at it's finest... you can actually get 10+ its not a certain amount of runs for an arcane its pure luck based you never know when an arcane will drop... i looted 2 arcanes in 4 runs.. smhQuote:
Originally Posted by Boneybro
Idk how many runs I did, but I'm at 4.3k tokens now, still 0 arc drop, not even a recipe :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kersey
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Got an abyssal helm on my 1000th run - sold for 2m. [emoji1787]
Wellwhat I understand about reroll is
There r 3 tables let's says
A
B
C
A contain (common, rare, epic)
B contain (legendry, mythic, set, spirit, vanity)
C contain (arcane, heroic)
Now let's say u killed boss and got a loot of tableA but it got reroll so while u had a chance to get an item from A (common, rare, epic) but after reroll u got ur loot from table B ( legendry, mythic ,set, spirit, vanity)
Similarly if u r actually geting loot from table B but got re roll than suppose u was getting mythic from table B than u get set from table B(one step upgraded)
Now for table C.
Re roll do happens in table C but only if ur iñitially geting a loot from table C than it will again get re roll and may get same or diff item from table C only.
Or its like a u throw a dice and got 3 and u got re roll ( means u get another chance to roll dice) now if u get 2 in ur second chance, than u get 3 as it was best result or suppose u get 5 in second chance than u will get 5 as result.
Best result out of 2 will be given as reward.
In case of arcane u got 6 in ur first dice throw....so it do not matter u throw dice twice thrice or whatever cause 6 is max reward u could have ever got.
So re roll won't work on arcane rarity