to be fair i try to get a cycle going . trap/veil / as / nox / spam/as/nox/spam . . but during cd im nomrally in the veil on the trap trying to get the bad guys to home in on me. so they get trapped. and in my buff bubble. but im not perfect and would never say i was. :P i still have lots to learn, and sometimes the forum can be ... sometimes counter productive against its self with the different play styles