Open Discussion-Rushing

[Cascade]

Ok maybe I'm just stupid but what's wrong with rushing? I could see that if your a new player and you power lvled and never actually went through and never actually played the game that would be stupid, yes...But if you already went through the game and you just want to save time by rushing instead of going through the tedious process of clearing to get to the boss what's wrong with that? Rushing saves time. And I like to save my time because I have a life to live with school and stuff...So could someone please xplain to me what's wrong with the rush?

[Arterra]

in general once people start rushing, people with intents to level those last few levels would never find a party to go with.
I myself rush, but I have to admit the community in game leaves little other way.

[Cascade]

Predicition-Royce will post here

[Royce]

I don't have time to leave the detailed multi-point response I'd like to, but maybe later. In general, the problem is nobody actually plays PvE anymore because rushing is so easy. PvE team play is the most polished aspect of PL, and the rush completely kills it. Not only does the rush mean almost nobody is even playing PvE, but it also means that many players Dont even know how any more. What's even the point of rushing to acquire top gear that you don't actually ever need because you just pot up and rush? Sure PvP, but PvP is still a bit of a sideshow in this game. Anyway, it is destroying this game in a zillion ways. I will answer more in depth later but maybe someone else will have already covered it by then.

[Arterra]

I'll cover for u!!

Rush
= dumbs you down
= kills teamplay
= ruins rarity
= makes the game boring fast
= tempers upon fail
= "omg noobi lv 43... boot reason:j trololol" (even when cap was 45)

[Drewl90]

it's pretty true actually. it does kill teamplay definitely. I've recently been playing with pubs and many of them don't know a thing about finding the quickest way to kill the aliens.

But i feel that they need to make the PVE aspect more interesting. Usually when i'm lvling in ao3, i fall asleep because it gets so tedious and boring.

I have no idea how to make things more interesting, but we really need something that will wake us up when playing PVE.

[Cascade]

I get your point Royce but, why should I waste my time clearing?

I've been with teams that can kill the overlord in 1 Min...Are you saying you wouldn't learn teamwork from killing bosses?

[kurl]

WORD!
i have school friends girls .. alot of stuff i just like to rush

[Cascade]

I agree with Drewl I mean when your lvling your just sitting there tapping...How interesting is that?! Not even interesting at all...we need other stuff that gives us xp and make lvls more interesting than just...tap....tap...tap...tap....

[jonboy]

I'll add some more

Not everyone wants to hurry, what if I want to clear and your point that you have to rush as you have a life is just bizarre

Emphasis on royces point. What are you rushing for if your not using your uber gear, except to rush more.

I've seen groups that were casual but good clearing a map because that's what they enjoy, that broke up when someone joined and starts going come on rush, why are you noobs you fail, and the group then falls to the rush bully and they fall in line or they leave.

Also this.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time to die.

[smoae]

I kind of agree...
pros of rushing...
-doesnt take long
-dont have to go through tedious mobs
-easy way to get good items
cons of rushing
-decreases rarity and price of items
-people who need to progress are screwed
-eliminates teamwork

I think whats the best thing about this game is not getting the best items, but just having a good time with friends and laughin when u die and stuff. rush kindof eliminates this, so thats why i dont really like it. i can see how some people like it though.

[Cascade]

Once I get my gear I stop rushing then I just enjoy the game.

EDIT: I usually rush to get items to sell them.

[jonboy]

@smoae, this.
"but just having a good time with friends and laughin when u die and stuff. rush kindof eliminates this"

Point.

[Royce]

Once I get my gear I stop rushing then I just enjoy the game.

The problem is you won't. Because there will be no groups to actually play with. Currently I would estimate over 99.9% of games are rushing, or grinding shadows. So the rush needs to be fixed if we are going to have fun in this game again.

[FluffNStuff]

I'll add some more


I've seen groups that were casual but good clearing a map because that's what they enjoy, that broke up when someone joined and starts going come on rush, why are you noobs you fail, and the group then falls to the rush bully and they fall in line or they leave.

This is exactly why they need to add the drop in glitch to the hot tubs in AO3. When someone comes in and tries to get the group to rush, you just unburden some gear, hop in the tub, and wait. Sooner or later, the group will get wiped, and some will bail. You can then join the ones left and continue your clear. First place for one, the King Minas level on Victory Lap. Seen SOOOOO many groups die there thinking they can rush it.

Oh, and by the way, Blade Runner FTW!

[Justg]

We are definitely looking into it.

[Cascade]

If I wasn't having fun I wouldn't keep playing PL...Therefore I am having a lot of fun playing PL rush or no rush I don't know why you guys arnt having fun.



@Justg-Perhaps we could figure out a compromise between rushers and non-rushers.

[Royce]

We are definitely looking into it.

This is awesome to hear.

[Drewl90]

yeah i'm fine with rushing and not rushing as well. haha.
not rushing is a bit tiresome though.

but for now, i rather the admins focus on getting the auction house and implementing guilds first.

[Snakespeare]

There's nothing wrong with it, really, it just should be done in private. Put on a password and invite your friends who also like to rush.

But do NOT do it in public maps. That's just rude. Especially if you are using a level 50 in a map for level 25s. They come in thinking they will get to fight the boss, and some rude person rushed it. So they clear all those hallways only to get NO CHANCE for their rightfully earned prizes.

In respawning maps, whether you rush or not is irrelevant.

I think all these problems are solved by letting us put a byline on a game saying that it is farming or XP or clearing the map. Then we can join games of like-minded people, and everyone will have more fun.