A scamming issue

[Swords]

Lately, I noticed there has been a lot of scammers in pl ever before.
Every day when I log in pl and do my merching business and whatnot, I come across people who are looking to buy items more priced than cs. For example, I come across ( wont put his name out there ) this dude who's buying a death shotgun/talon set for 5m, then when i searched these items in cs, I see the same shotgun/death talon set by 1 person. That got me thinking.... People are willing to scam ur money by using alts to list overpriced items. I just want the community to be aware of this issue that has risen lately.

[Kixxler]

Is that really scamming or is that just really smart?

[Swords]

Is that really scamming or is that just really smart?

I would consider it scamming since if u would buy their overpriced items from their alt and then try to sell it to them, they would just run off....

[Trenton]

Is that really scamming or is that just really smart?

I believe that there are no "scams," just people falling for stupid things. If it seems WAYYYYYY too good to be true, it probably is.

[Blastyou]

I believe that there are no "scams," just people falling for stupid things. If it seems WAYYYYYY too good to be true, it probably is.

Preach.

[XghostzX]

I believe that there are no "scams," just people falling for stupid things. If it seems WAYYYYYY too good to be true, it probably is.

But that's the point of the word scam - people being able to bend and twist different laws and concepts of the game mechanics in order to benefit themselves, and hurt someone else. So it's different for different people - whereas, a player that isn't as familiar with the game could easily be "scammed" and then there are those who think they have nothing to worry about, and then perform a "stupid" act.

Just my 2 cents.

[Taipan]

But that's the point of the word scam - people being able to bend and twist different laws and concepts of the game mechanics in order to benefit themselves, and hurt someone else. So it's different for different people - whereas, a player that isn't as familiar with the game could easily be "scammed" and then there are those who think they have nothing to worry about, and then perform a "stupid" act.

Just my 2 cents.

I have this feeling that anyone who has the money to merch a death set isn't too new to the game.

[Fusionstrike]

But that's the point of the word scam - people being able to bend and twist different laws and concepts of the game mechanics in order to benefit themselves, and hurt someone else. So it's different for different people - whereas, a player that isn't as familiar with the game could easily be "scammed" and then there are those who think they have nothing to worry about, and then perform a "stupid" act.

Just my 2 cents.

This trick only works when the victim makes an assumption about what price he/she can sell the items for. In this respect, anyone who tries to "buy low and sell high" is potentially going to get stuck with an item he/she can't offload for more than it was bought for. Obviously losing money buy and selling gear is not a scam, because you never really know what buyers will pay or when they'll change their minds. This specific "scam" is just a case of someone trying to goad others into into making a bad decision, and is one of the oldest cons around.

Of course this doesn't excuse the behavior, and PL would be a better place without these people. So as long as STS considers it a scam, report away. It seems to me like this would require a lot of effort for STS to prove that's what the person was doing though.

[Rouquine]

I believe that there are no "scams," just people falling for stupid things. If it seems WAYYYYYY too good to be true, it probably is.

Couldn't agree more.

[Multibird]

I believe that there are no "scams," just people falling for stupid things. If it seems WAYYYYYY too good to be true, it probably is.

++1

[Trenton]

But that's the point of the word scam - people being able to bend and twist different laws and concepts of the game mechanics in order to benefit themselves, and hurt someone else. So it's different for different people - whereas, a player that isn't as familiar with the game could easily be "scammed" and then there are those who think they have nothing to worry about, and then perform a "stupid" act.

Just my 2 cents.

I get what you're saying, as I've actually been "scammed" when I was a noob and it obviously doesn't feel good, but my point was just to say that if people pay attention, it'd be alot easier to not get scammed. Half of the scam threads are "Oh, he DID put down 1.7m for my beastly set but at the last second changed it to 170k and omgosh I got scammed." <--- I guess I'm not fully comprehending ALL the scams that are out there, as you are definitely right about it, I'm just thinking about the people that don't pay attention and then have people feel sorry for them for "getting scammed."

[XghostzX]

I get what you're saying, as I've actually been "scammed" when I was a noob and it obviously doesn't feel good, but my point was just to say that if people pay attention, it'd be alot easier to not get scammed. Half of the scam threads are "Oh, he DID put down 1.7m for my beastly set but at the last second changed it to 170k and omgosh I got scammed." <--- I guess I'm not fully comprehending ALL the scams that are out there, as you are definitely right about it, I'm just thinking about the people that don't pay attention and then have people feel sorry for them for "getting scammed."

Yeah man! I totally agree - I think what I'm saying is that the definition of scamming is being "stupid" for falling for tricks; that a word was needed to fit this type of definition.

[Spyce]

I saw the Death guy!
He said Death Talon and Shotgun said for 5m..

[Sryyoulose]

Internal sonugly^^
Also, I did this when I first started out... I thought I was so smart. But it's better to earn money the right way. It feels Bette when you finally accomplish it.

[iiirootzz]

I saw the Death guy!
He said Death Talon and Shotgun said for 5m..

Exactly, both sets.

[Neffy]

I've seen this a lot but this isn't a scam. This is social manipulation which happens in every day life. Not a scam, just not legitimate.

[Schnitzel]

Lately, I noticed there has been a lot of scammers in pl ever before.
Every day when I log in pl and do my merching business and whatnot, I come across people who are looking to buy items more priced than cs. For example, I come across ( wont put his name out there ) this dude who's buying a death shotgun/talon set for 5m, then when i searched these items in cs, I see the same shotgun/death talon set by 1 person. That got me thinking.... People are willing to scam ur money by using alts to list overpriced items. I just want the community to be aware of this issue that has risen lately.

Na. I don't define scamming as listing a set or item, then getting an alt to try to sell for more.

IMO, scamming is when someone goes "ya here give me (X amount) of gold and ill give you your Item after trade" then leaving and never seeing that scammed person ever again

[Caiahar]

Um.
Yesterday I went on PL and almost as soon as I got on, this guy spammed me he's selling a red dragon for 5million.
Not the Armor, but the real vanity pet.
Since he spammed me, I went into trade, and guess what?

He put Red dragon ARMOR, and told me it was a red dragon vanity pet, but StG put the wrong name.

I muted him after that.

[Urqui]

This is a scam and an old one too...
It's also bannable so report anyone trying to cheat others.

[Waug]

The point is so called scammers innovate new ways of scamming to make fool peoples thus peoples have to be smarter in first place. then again the line comes true there's no scamming, its just the foolish peoples.