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    Let's wait a couple of years, the time PL comes back in

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    About ctf spawning issue, I had made this a long time ago. Still no implement:
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    This post from Samhayne almost shocked me. Spawnkill just ruin PvP and its over-used mainly on this cap. Allow this just show how the staff dont care about PL. On AL there is a good system implanted against the spawnkill, its a proof that StS can do something about it.
    I think they forget AL wouldnt be there if PL pioneers wasnt here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexlyde View Post
    This post from Samhayne almost shocked me. Spawnkill just ruin PvP and its over-used mainly on this cap. Allow this just show how the staff dont care about PL. On AL there is a good system implanted against the spawnkill, its a proof that StS can do something about it.
    I think they forget AL wouldnt be there if PL pioneers wasnt here.
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    The problem is, no matter what we suggest, they hardly even bother with it. Yes, they might be reading this, but I seriously doubt that any actions will be taken.

    Their attitude to PL players : If you don't like the game, quit playing it and get a life.
    Their attitude to AL players : Hi sir, how can I help you? Oh, thanks for reminding us, it'll be fixed in 2 days. Remember to buy more plat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rot View Post
    The problem is, no matter what we suggest, they hardly even bother with it. Yes, they might be reading this, but I seriously doubt that any actions will be taken.

    Their attitude to PL players : If you don't like the game, quit playing it and get a life.
    Their attitude to AL players : Hi sir, how can I help you? Oh, thanks for reminding us, it'll be fixed in 2 days. Remember to buy more plat!

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    Yes, but at some point AL will turn to that. It's like saying STS is a new Gameloft lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    Yes, but at some point AL will turn to that. It's like saying STS is a new Gameloft lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troncaat:1224126
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexlyde View Post
    This post from Samhayne almost shocked me. Spawnkill just ruin PvP and its over-used mainly on this cap. Allow this just show how the staff dont care about PL. On AL there is a good system implanted against the spawnkill, its a proof that StS can do something about it.
    I think they forget AL wouldnt be there if PL pioneers wasnt here.
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    I updated my response to remove a bit of my own drama:

    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    Now that BD is out we'll be evaluating the roadmaps for Legends games. Currently there is no PL cap on the horizon.

    That being said, we still intend on running all four Legends games, and supporting/ updating them where we can.

    Arcane Level Cap is out next, we'll see what is up after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    I updated my response to remove a bit of my own drama:
    We appreciate the effort, however, it is not what you said which brought this thread about. When there is a lack of interest shown towards PL and it is up to the community to clean it up only to see our efforts destroyed in one sentence, demoralizing doesn't give the effects on us justice. The effects from that quote have already began in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    The effects from that quote have already began in game.
    Isn't that the truth!

    I don't host PvP games often, but when I do, I boot for spawning, no matter which team and no matter what player. I don't understand why the number of kills is more important than some level of fair play to so many. It boggles the mind. Spawn kills are right up there with frying ants with a magnifying glass. Ya most every guy has done it at one time but most of us grow out of it after an hour or two. Some of the PvP areas are virtual Psychopath training grounds where antisocial behavior is rewarded by the omission of consequences in game or by the mods. What sort of pride can a person have for putting up such meaningless numbers with such poor behavior?

    And Really, how Proud can SpaceTime be for creating this environment, letting it fester and then allowing it to go unchecked?
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    Ofc its not dramatic... but all players feel like StS staff absolutely don't care about PL. This game is still alive, there is still a very active community. When Samhayne tell us spawnkill is allowed in PL, and beside in AL there is system against that. Plus spawnkill is really a problem on this cap, with skills unbalance, I wanted to play endgame PvP, but I get spawnkill everytime I try endgame ctf games... We are all like "wtf?!".
    I can understand AL is now your main game and BD is the new one, they need atention of course. But PL is still here and without it and us, other StS games wouldnt be what they are now.
    Btw Thanks for replying JustG
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    You guys should do some rotative lvl Caps updates so that no one would be jealous, and it would avoid a game to be forgotten.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justg
    Arcane Level Cap is out next, we'll see what is up after that.
    3rd or even 4th cap in a row? It would be nice to raise cap in other games
    Or, if you don't have time to raise it (yet?), it would be awesome from you guys to change some stuffs which truly needs to be fixed in PL right now, such as unbalanced end game PvP/ctf, ctf spawning issue and some other stuff, that keep being asked from community for 4-5 months already.

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    Spawning is a big no no. The community has all there is to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    I updated my response to remove a bit of my own drama:
    We appreciate the effort, however, it is not what you said which brought this thread about. When there is a lack of interest shown towards PL and it is up to the community to clean it up only to see our efforts destroyed in one sentence, demoralizing doesn't give the effects on us justice. The effects from that quote have already began in game.
    Very wisely said. Your words match my feelings for the current situation.
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    Surprisingly enough though plenty of the pvp "legends" spawn kill to. Almost every game theirs either a spawner or a rusher. From now on just lock you games and spawners will loose interest.

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    srry havent been on the forums for the past couple days, but rlly? Is this what the community has come to? What Sam said to me seems like hes promoting spawning. Also we all know a dev has seen this and im sure many have and we still havent had a reply to the OP why is that? Its time the devs /mods wake up and do something. Cant they see that everyone wants this to be fixed except the spawners that are still playing... This is the kind of thing that pisses me off and that makes me wonder why im still giving this dam company my money so that they can say these kind of things such as spawning being part of the game and even tho PL has been waiting over 11months (I think) for a new cap the say we are planning on giving AL the next expansion and we dont know what we will do after... Really makes me think why im still playing this game...

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    Let's get to the root of the problem here. Spawning has been around since Ctf has been implemented. People are just whining about it now because end game PvP is a joke. It's full a players that aren't fit to be in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Let's get to the root of the problem here. Spawning has been around since Ctf has been implemented. People are just whining about it now because end game PvP is a joke. It's full a players that aren't fit to be in there.
    Yes, spawning has been around for ages but this cap is the first where spawning was "professionalised". The spawners have a tank standing in the middle of the spawn to take the initial aim and two birds who take turns with killing when they are buffed. A month ago almost every time I searched for games there was a spawn game going on, making it highly likely for any new players to stumble into it and get off on completely the wrong foot in PvP/Ctf.
    The issue was kind of resolved when some of the spawners got banned and the rest of them was too scared to continue.
    With this statement coming from a dev I wouldnt be surprised if it starts again...he is basically promoting spawning!

    Way to spoil the new gens even more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaunab View Post
    Yes, spawning has been around for ages but this cap is the first where spawning was "professionalised". The spawners have a tank standing in the middle of the spawn to take the initial aim and two birds who take turns with killing when they are buffed. A month ago almost every time I searched for games there was a spawn game going on, making it highly likely for any new players to stumble into it and get off on completely the wrong foot in PvP/Ctf.
    The issue was kind of resolved when some of the spawners got banned and the rest of them was too scared to continue.
    With this statement coming from a dev I wouldnt be surprised if it starts again...he is basically promoting spawning!

    Way to spoil the new gens even more...
    Which all comes back to random noobs being able to kill people who have been PvPing since early PvP. Root of the problem is the PvP mechanics being garbage. All the spawn killing and other problems are branches off of that. As you said, the new gens are being spoiled.

    If only the oh so great Mitch were here to buy Sam lunch and help fix this!

    Edit:

    Even in this thread there are a large amount of players who are either new here or never PvPed prior to this cap.

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