Horrible bann service

[KrazyxGhost]

Wow soo i've been banned for a while now and everytime i try to contact spacetime i never get any response, it was a horrible bann considering i was only recruiting for eliminate pro, they perm banned my device, totally unfair and when i asked for evidence they gave me nothing, i mean if they're going to enforce rules as such they should have a terms and agreement page after evry character creation. Bann system is dumb, and the staff do nothing to help, they give no warnings just throw the book at you and its unfair, and btw spacetime i do still want my ipod unbanned from this unfair infraction

[Ellyidol]

I'm pretty sure there was a ToS or such that STS provided which your ban came from.

[KrazyxGhost]

I'm pretty sure there was a ToS or such that STS provided which your ban came from.

Regardless i was simply recruiting for eliminate pro, which requires sending link through email (check it yourself) and they banned me cause of that AND without warning.. Still not right.

[KingFu]

When you signed up you agreed to the terms and conditions, saying you'll fallow the community guidelines they listed, I'm 90% sure advertising was listed as being against the guidelines I'd you read them

Edit:

You shouldn't get a warning since you agreed to the terms and conditions...

[KrazyxGhost]

When you signed up you agreed to the terms and conditions, saying you'll fallow the community guidelines they listed, I'm 90% sure advertising was listed as being against the guidelines I'd you read them

Edit:

You shouldn't get a warning since you agreed to the terms and conditions...

Well guess what that 10% is where your wrong, i research everything before i state facts, when you make and account via pl app is just takes u directly in game u do not sign or check off any agreement whatsoever, the site is the only place you can find such guidelines, and this is my 1st time coming to the site due to difficulties

[Ellyidol]

Well guess what that 10% is where your wrong, i research everything before i state facts, when you make and account via pl app is just takes u directly in game u do not sign or check off any agreement whatsoever, the site is the only place you can find such guidelines, and this is my 1st time coming to the site due to difficulties

There is a ToS in-game when you register for an account or such. I remember just going through one when I newly got PL on my iPad. So I think it links to each device and not each account.

And "advertising" other apps in others is just common sense. Firstly its unethical and common courtesy not to. Relate it to real life, you've got your own shop and another person comes into your shop and advertises theirs?

[KrazyxGhost]

There is a ToS in-game when you register for an account or such. I remember just going through one when I newly got PL on my iPad. So I think it links to each device and not each account.

And "advertising" other apps in others is just common sense. Firstly its unethical and common courtesy not to. Relate it to real life, you've got your own shop and another person comes into your shop and advertises theirs?

Ok for one, UNETHICAL dude this is a highly successful mmorpg app come on now, you use common sense, howelse could i recruit, Its Call Supply And Demand. AND STILL NOT A LEGIT WAY TO GET PERM BANNED. Omg seriously you wouldn't get it unless u were in this position.

[icantgetkills]

Ok for one, UNETHICAL dude this is a highly successful mmorpg app come on now, you use common sense, howelse could i recruit, Its Call Supply And Demand. AND STILL NOT A LEGIT WAY TO GET PERM BANNED. Omg seriously you wouldn't get it unless u were in this position.

I actually agree 100% with u sorry elly lol just my opinion

[TwinkTastical]

Ok for one, UNETHICAL dude this is a highly successful mmorpg app come on now, you use common sense, howelse could i recruit, Its Call Supply And Demand. AND STILL NOT A LEGIT WAY TO GET PERM BANNED. Omg seriously you wouldn't get it unless u were in this position.

Advertising Eliminate is like... Selling used Rubber devices.. The game is trash. doesnt need to pollute this mmo with Creepy diseases... ok?
Now feel free to Recruit for Mc2 .. Thats an Fps.

[Ellyidol]

Ok for one, UNETHICAL dude this is a highly successful mmorpg app come on now, you use common sense, howelse could i recruit, Its Call Supply And Demand. AND STILL NOT A LEGIT WAY TO GET PERM BANNED. Omg seriously you wouldn't get it unless u were in this position.

Uhm unethical because this is a private business and not some public sector to advertise in? If you wanna advertise go to a public medium where people are looking for apps and not using one. How the hell does supply and demand apply to this? One there is no demand for your app in PL, probably. If your trying to generate demand then read my first sentence again, go to a public medium.

A bank doesn't advertise in another bank, a clothing shop doesn't advertise in another clothing shop. If you play PL and recommended an app which got you banned, then understood a perma ban is too harsh. But if your sole reason was to advertise your app, and its in the ToS, then thats the consequence.

[KingFu]

Ok for one, UNETHICAL dude this is a highly successful mmorpg app come on now, you use common sense, howelse could i recruit, Its Call Supply And Demand. AND STILL NOT A LEGIT WAY TO GET PERM BANNED. Omg seriously you wouldn't get it unless u were in this position.

Maybe you wouldn't get our point of view unless you calmed down and stop screaming and complaining at the game for taking action when you broke the rules and the guidelines........

[icantgetkills]

I agree that you did do something wrong but a Perm ban is extremely harsh 7-14 days ban max IMO

[setec]

From the beginning you had to agree to the ToS to play the game. That is a fact.

Pocket Legends came out on 04/03/2010. As early as 04/19/2010 a Dev posted this:

You did, the first time you logged into the game. If you would like to test it delete your application from the phone and reinstall it. Everyone agrees.

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...ull=1#post4059

If you were advertising in chat for another company/service/product, you violated the ToS

From page 7 of 18 of ToS:
"is a solicitation or advertisement for any commercial product or activity"

Here are the ToS:

[KrazyxGhost]

Ok thats semi proof but as a researcher i read through this word for word and says nothing about adverting for apps such as recruiting

[KingFu]

Ok thats semi proof but as a researcher i read through this word for word and says nothing about adverting for apps such as recruiting

Semi proof? That is proof. I'd read it again:

"is a solicitation or advertisement for any commercial product or activity"

You advertised for a product, leaving you banned. I don't see how you can continue to believe in your argument.

[KrazyxGhost]

Ok let me just end this here, i called apple, anything (APP) through apple/mac service on any app compatible with apple is not a commercial product or activity, in fact if it was apple could get sued for it but thats going into heavy law. Point being, both these apps r made possible by apple therefore like i said about bank mergers they link making what i did totally harmless.

[TwinkTastical]

Ok let me just end this here, i called apple, anything (APP) through apple/mac service on any app compatible with apple is not a commercial product or activity, in fact if it was apple could get sued for it but thats going into heavy law. Point being, both these apps r made possible by apple therefore like i said about bank mergers they link making what i did totally harmless.

So.. your gonna sue a company that has more money then youll ever take a bath in..? MMORPGS are not for advertising an FPS, Plain and simple, Maybe use the lawyer money for a TV ad?

[KingFu]

Ok let me just end this here, i called apple, anything (APP) through apple/mac service on any app compatible with apple is not a commercial product or activity, in fact if it was apple could get sued for it but thats going into heavy law. Point being, both these apps r made possible by apple therefore like i said about bank mergers they link making what i did totally harmless.

You don't seem to understand that no matter how much you say or think it's harmless, spacetime doesn't approve of it, and put it in their rules, which you agreed to follow, then you broke them, and got banned. All in all, your fault, stop blaming others, and please stop complaining about how harmless it was, you agreed and accepted the rules, and then broke them, and got banned. That's your fault...

[setec]

Ok let me just end this here, i called apple, anything (APP) through apple/mac service on any app compatible with apple is not a commercial product or activity, in fact if it was apple could get sued for it but thats going into heavy law. Point being, both these apps r made possible by apple therefore like i said about bank mergers they link making what i did totally harmless.

I call BS on you actually calling Apple about this. And even if you did, there is no way they gave you that blanket statement.

The Apple App Store is just a medium through which Spacetime Studios will offer Pocket Legends and offer platinum for real $$. Soon the game will be on the Android Market.

The servers are owned and operated by Spacetime Studious, not Apple.

Per the ToS from Apple:

3. Ownership and End-User Licensing
3.1 The parties acknowledge and agree that Apple shall not acquire any ownership interest in or to any of the Licensed Applications or Licensed Applications Information, and title, risk of loss, responsibility for, and control over the Licensed Applications shall, at all times, remain with You. Apple may not use any of the Licensed Applications or Licensed Application Information for any purpose, or in any manner, except as specifically authorized in this Schedule 1.

http://www.eff.org/files/20100127_iphone_dev_agr.pdf

[KingFu]

I knew for a FACT you had to agree to terms of services...