Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Please need help with pvp str/dex bear

  1. #1
    Member rafakh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    123
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post

    Default Please need help with pvp str/dex bear

    I'm a lvl 76 bear, and I need some tips for pvp, what skill build use? Need some tips to what do in the battles, what do in bearXbear fights? My friend with a lvl73 destroy me using savage..

  2. #2
    Guardian of Alterra Chickenrunnn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Waiting for devs in towns -.-
    Posts
    1,831
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    22
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    489
    Thanked in
    177 Posts

    Default

    Hello

    Watch there : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...s-for-all-LvLs

    _______

    My LvL75-76 combo for Bear! O.O (not tested, but should work)

    Base points : 157 str, rest dex
    Skills points : 9 rage, iron, taunt, Evasion, Hellscream, Beckon, stomp, 5 Crushing, 5 (6 for 76) SmS, 1 crippling
    Items : Savage scythe set!!! + [10 Damage+2 dodge ring] or any elite dragonned foundered ring lol
    Combo : Rage, iron, evade, taunt, beckon, stomp, (they should be dead there) hellscream, crush (if he is close only), SmS, slashes. If he is alive, (s)he must be a tank or extremely lucky ;o
    Tips :
    - Be close from a wall when u pull the guy, like it he will be stuck on it and u will be able to use ur slashes
    - Pull when your sure there are at least 2 people close to you, if your reckon stomps going to hits, the guys pulled should be dead !
    - against dex birds, auto pull should be enough to kill them.. however do reckon stomp ^^

    Against bears, try to hit Hellscream. This is the key of the match.. You can beckon, then Crushing blow to kill the dodge and hell scream, or Hell scream first, praying it hits, then beckon crush and hellscream again ;
    ______

    Tell me your feedback (if you're good with the built, or poopoo)

    Note that you can't get very good once you just started pvp You need much practice in order to get better
    Last edited by Chickenrunnn; 09-14-2013 at 01:28 PM.
    GUIDES : | Devs & Mods | PvP | CTF | CS | Promo Codes |


  3. #3
    Guardian of Alterra CrimsonTider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    5,115
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,038
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,654
    Thanked in
    904 Posts

    Default

    I'm going to disagree with Chicken... respectfully (what is that????)

    Crushing blow, second to Hellscream, is a very crucial part of a build. I would remove all but one point out of SMS and place them into CB.

    As for combos, never waste your Stomp right off of the bat. The "Smash" combo is not as important against a bear as it is other classes. It is more important to get your debuffs in FIRST (meaning before the other bear) or you are in trouble. Hellscream has the same 12m range as Beckon and should always be cast first. From there, use Beckon to get them close and begin unleashing your fury. Use Stomp to back the other player off of you to allow for a small amount of health regen. If you happen to have the opponent pinned against a tree or wall, keep them there! This is where also having a point in Vengeful Slash (because of it's knockback ability) helps you.

    I know there are other builds out there, one being the use of a bow, but this is what works for me.
    CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
    WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
    Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr

  4. #4
    Luminary Poster Caiahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    The Castle That Never Was, with my Shadowstar and Eternal Frost, also with Ebonine.
    Posts
    6,446
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    343
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    464
    Thanked in
    368 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider:1265672
    I'm going to disagree with Chicken... respectfully (what is that????)

    Crushing blow, second to Hellscream, is a very crucial part of a build. I would remove all but one point out of SMS and place them into CB.

    As for combos, never waste your Stomp right off of the bat. The "Smash" combo is not as important against a bear as it is other classes. It is more important to get your debuffs in FIRST (meaning before the other bear) or you are in trouble. Hellscream has the same 12m range as Beckon and should always be cast first. From there, use Beckon to get them close and begin unleashing your fury. Use Stomp to back the other player off of you to allow for a small amount of health regen. If you happen to have the opponent pinned against a tree or wall, keep them there! This is where also having a point in Vengeful Slash (because of it's knockback ability) helps you.

    I know there are other builds out there, one being the use of a bow, but this is what works for me.
    This is a good strategy, it not only works at endgame, but also at 56 and other lvls
    Hellscream, then stomp, beckon, crushingblow, hellscream, and all those other slashes

    All for One, and One for All!
    The Brightest of Flames..cast the Darkest of Shadows..
    One who knows nothing cannot understand anything..

  5. #5
    Guardian of Alterra Chickenrunnn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Waiting for devs in towns -.-
    Posts
    1,831
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    22
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    489
    Thanked in
    177 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenrunnn View Post
    Against bears, try to hit Hellscream. This is the key of the match.. You can beckon, then Crushing blow to kill the dodge and hell scream, or Hell scream first, praying it hits, then beckon crush and hellscream again ;
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    I'm going to disagree with Chicken... respectfully (what is that????)

    Crushing blow, second to Hellscream, is a very crucial part of a build.
    You broke my heart :'(

     


    awww



    Last edited by Chickenrunnn; 09-15-2013 at 10:53 AM.
    GUIDES : | Devs & Mods | PvP | CTF | CS | Promo Codes |


  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    116
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    34
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5
    Thanked in
    5 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenrunnn View Post
    Hello

    Watch there : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...s-for-all-LvLs

    _______

    My LvL75-76 combo for Bear! O.O (not tested, but should work)

    Base points : 157 str, rest dex
    Skills points : 9 rage, iron, taunt, Evasion, Hellscream, Beckon, stomp, 5 Crushing, 5 (6 for 76) SmS, 1 crippling
    Items : Savage scythe set!!! + [10 Damage+2 dodge ring] or any elite dragonned foundered ring lol
    Combo : Rage, iron, evade, taunt, beckon, stomp, (they should be dead there) hellscream, crush (if he is close only), SmS, slashes. If he is alive, (s)he must be a tank or extremely lucky ;o
    Tips :
    - Be close from a wall when u pull the guy, like it he will be stuck on it and u will be able to use ur slashes
    - Pull when your sure there are at least 2 people close to you, if your reckon stomps going to hits, the guys pulled should be dead !
    - against dex birds, auto pull should be enough to kill them.. however do reckon stomp ^^

    Against bears, try to hit Hellscream. This is the key of the match.. You can beckon, then Crushing blow to kill the dodge and hell scream, or Hell scream first, praying it hits, then beckon crush and hellscream again ;
    ______

    Tell me your feedback (if you're good with the built, or poopoo)

    Note that you can't get very good once you just started pvp You need much practice in order to get better
    nu to that^

    chickens build was not made with testig as he say, also it waz just quick guide he make.

    here is proper skill build and skill use:
    9 rage, iron, taunt, Evasion, Hellscream, crushing, 7 beckon, 6 stomp, 6 (7 for 76) SmS, 1 crippling, 1 vengeful

    u want to use the double buff properti of taunt!
    taunt first, then ur buffs then taunt again then beckon hell scream crushing then stomp or add a crippling to root them

  7. #7
    Guardian of Alterra CrimsonTider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    5,115
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,038
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,654
    Thanked in
    904 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenrunnn View Post
    You broke my heart :'(

     


    awww



    Sorry.

    Actually, your comment in the section above that is what I was referring too. Hellscream should be the first skill cast (outside of buffs) in each and every match. This is more for the stun factor against other classes since their hit is incredibly high.
    CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
    WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
    Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr

  8. #8
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    418
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    105
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    84
    Thanked in
    62 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    This is a good strategy, it not only works at endgame, but also at 56 and other lvls
    Hellscream, then stomp, beckon, crushingblow, hellscream, and all those other slashes
    No. Who the hell would Hellscream then stomp at level 56... Hellscream has just 8m range your opponent would've torn you apart in the time you reach him.

  9. #9
    Senior Member quantionus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,677
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    163
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    95
    Thanked in
    81 Posts

    Default

    lmao ^^ lol laughed hard (torn you apart in time your reach)

  10. #10
    Luminary Poster Caiahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    The Castle That Never Was, with my Shadowstar and Eternal Frost, also with Ebonine.
    Posts
    6,446
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    343
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    464
    Thanked in
    368 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sus:1266784
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    This is a good strategy, it not only works at endgame, but also at 56 and other lvls
    Hellscream, then stomp, beckon, crushingblow, hellscream, and all those other slashes
    No. Who the hell would Hellscream then stomp at level 56... Hellscream has just 8m range your opponent would've torn you apart in the time you
    reach him.
    O.o
    This usually happens:
    Oppenent beckons me> I hellscream him>I use stomp to clear away effects of beckon stun and push him> I beckon him>Cb> and so on.

    All for One, and One for All!
    The Brightest of Flames..cast the Darkest of Shadows..
    One who knows nothing cannot understand anything..

  11. #11
    Senior Member saool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Alterra
    Posts
    1,095
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    84
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    101
    Thanked in
    71 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenrunnn:1266685
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenrunnn View Post
    Against bears, try to hit Hellscream. This is the key of the match.. You can beckon, then Crushing blow to kill the dodge and hell scream, or Hell scream first, praying it hits, then beckon crush and hellscream again ;
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    I'm going to disagree with Chicken... respectfully (what is that????)

    Crushing blow, second to Hellscream, is a very crucial part of a build.
    You broke my heart :'(

     


    awww




    awwwww it's ok chicken, your guide is still helpful
     
    If you know who the character is, this is his final Form!
     
    Love it thanks MothWing!
    PL: Saool L76 Mage [Proud Officer of A.R.G.] Siejo's Secretary
    DL: Saool [Eternally Undead Officer of C.V.G.]

  12. #12
    Member Blastyou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Lurking
    Posts
    223
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    47
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    22
    Thanked in
    19 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    O.o
    This usually happens:
    Oppenent beckons me> I hellscream him>I use stomp to clear away effects of beckon stun and push him> I beckon him>Cb> and so on.
    This is pretty much what I do in bear vs. bear, seems to work well. Not sure why people are jumping on ya for it.
    Blastyou - Bearconator - Cptchicken - Foxgonewild
    Casualpvp - Bgame - Angerissues - Gorgons - Worstbear - Casualsniper - Beginnersluck - Talonbehr

  13. #13
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    418
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    105
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    84
    Thanked in
    62 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Blastyou View Post
    This is pretty much what I do in bear vs. bear, seems to work well. Not sure why people are jumping on ya for it.
    i like to jump on my bed, that counts?

  14. #14
    Luminary Poster
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    7,148
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,330
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,113
    Thanked in
    788 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sus View Post
    i like to jump on my bed, that counts?
    same, people just arent as bouncy for some reason

  15. #15
    Junior Member ucapes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    31
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3
    Thanked in
    3 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sus View Post
    No. Who the hell would Hellscream then stomp at level 56... Hellscream has just 8m range your opponent would've torn you apart in the time you reach him.
    i agree hellscream

  16. #16
    Guardian of Alterra Chickenrunnn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Waiting for devs in towns -.-
    Posts
    1,831
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    22
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    489
    Thanked in
    177 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrall Wire View Post
    nu to that^

    chickens build was not made with testig as he say, also it waz just quick guide he make.
    65K characters = quick guide? ._.


    Quote Originally Posted by saool View Post
    awwwww it's ok chicken, your guide is still helpful
    [*]< ty
    GUIDES : | Devs & Mods | PvP | CTF | CS | Promo Codes |


  17. #17
    Senior Member Itoopeo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    3310
    Posts
    2,993
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    54
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    154
    Thanked in
    133 Posts

    Default

    For int mages, all you need is max buffs, smolderin boulder and max beckon stomp. That combination destroys mages trough mana shields with 1200-1500 dmg total.

    Its crazy how much that thing damages dodgeless mages
    Last edited by Itoopeo; 09-17-2013 at 02:42 AM.

  18. #18
    Luminary Poster Caiahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    The Castle That Never Was, with my Shadowstar and Eternal Frost, also with Ebonine.
    Posts
    6,446
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    343
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    464
    Thanked in
    368 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by finnman View Post
    For int mages, all you need is max buffs, smolderin boulder and max beckon stomp. That combination destroys mages trough mana shields with 1200-1500 dmg total.

    Its crazy how much that thing damages dodgeless mages
    Boulder would need 300 str, and 300 str means lower dex, and lower dex means lower hit.
    If you can manage to hit, then maybe. Or maybe Mage could fire you.
    You can give a bear insane dmg and stuff, but none of it matters if he doesn't have hit.


    All for one, and one for all.

    All for One, and One for All!
    The Brightest of Flames..cast the Darkest of Shadows..
    One who knows nothing cannot understand anything..

  19. #19
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    1,584
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    144
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    444
    Thanked in
    268 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    O.o
    This usually happens:
    Oppenent beckons me> I hellscream him>I use stomp to clear away effects of beckon stun and push him> I beckon him>Cb> and so on.
    Stomp doesn't unstun you. Only gets you out of roots and ice.
    Stomp has 8m range. Hell Beckon crush slashes stomp regen repeat. If you're low on health kite hell and beckon/stomp until your hp is back.
    Last edited by Cavoc; 09-17-2013 at 03:03 PM.

  20. #20
    Senior Member Itoopeo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    3310
    Posts
    2,993
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    54
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    154
    Thanked in
    133 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar:1269013
    Quote Originally Posted by finnman View Post
    For int mages, all you need is max buffs, smolderin boulder and max beckon stomp. That combination destroys mages trough mana shields with 1200-1500 dmg total.

    Its crazy how much that thing damages dodgeless mages
    Boulder would need 300 str, and 300 str means lower dex, and lower dex means lower hit.
    If you can manage to hit, then maybe. Or maybe Mage could fire you.
    You can give a bear insane dmg and stuff, but none of it matters if he doesn't have hit.


    All for one, and one for all.
    Works also with savage blade but that doesnt have so insane damage

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 22
    Last Post: 03-12-2013, 02:58 PM
  2. New PVP Build Bow bear or Smart Bear or str Bear
    By runedarkblade in forum PL Player vs. Player
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-23-2012, 11:31 PM
  3. Replies: 24
    Last Post: 03-24-2012, 10:46 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •