Mythics/Arcanes ruins PvP

[Bullox]

In my Opinion, the difference between Mythic/Arcane equipped Players and non Mythic Players is a big Number to high!

At the beginning with only Mythic Helmet all was fine...a lot of Players do PvP and have a chance vs. Players with Mythic Helmet....

Now, non Mythic Players are only fast-food..... and that also ruins the economy, because......

Who is willing to pay a lot of Gold for Expensive, hard farmed Elite Equip, if he know the cheap (crate) equip for pve is enough to do elites....

....and for pvp it doesnt matter if you wear cheap or expensive Legendary Equip, because whithout Mythics/Arcanes hes only fastfood....

..and thats the cause, so less players do pvp at time....

[Hnakkur]

100% agree!

[Cero]

Theres a thread on suggestion sectiong, suggesting to have a separate room for legendary gear users from Mythic/arcane users.
-This was a good idea. Having a room of choice for Legendary users to enjoy pvp, figthing with other legendary users.

And Mythic/arcanes didnt actualy ruin pvp.

[Soundlesskill]

Yeah, it's not longer skill based, it's mythic/arcane based. I'd pvp again if they made it more skill based.....

[Jetzzz]

Then you can create twinks for pvp. Problem solved

[Soundlesskill]

Then you can create twinks for pvp. Problem solved

This isn't the sulotion.
1. Endgame pvp and twink pvp is not the same skills required, like the mana might be a problem for a endgamer going twink.
2. Ewwww twinks!

[Alhuntrazeck]

Honestly, I don't have a single mythic and I don't mind PvP - I find it fun in fact. But if you MUST earn them mythics before playing the game how its meant to be played, i.e. ENJOYING it you should deck yourself out in elite pinks, and farm your arse off. Merch when you get offers and inch your way up.

Or...just learn to play your class good and become pro at pvp even without mythics! Several players in AL have achieved that - look at noisykillar who just posted above, who was beast before she even got her mythics.

[Bullox]

Theres a thread on suggestion sectiong, suggesting to have a separate room for legendary gear users from Mythic/arcane users.
-This was a good idea. Having a room of choice for Legendary users to enjoy pvp, figthing with other legendary users.

And Mythic/arcanes didnt actualy ruin pvp.

let me guess....you have some Mythics......

If i run PvP with my Rogue vs. a Mythic/Arcane Warrior.... i shoot all my 1,6k mana vs. Him and he dont die.....
Vs. a Mythic Sorc.....i die during Stunlock.....

If i do PvP with my Warrior(same as my Rogue only Legendary Equip).....vs. a Mythic Rogue i get 2or 3 shottet..... vs. Mythic/Maul Warri = chanceless....

I'm sure, im not the only Player, whithout Mythics which see this Problems...... and I say there is nothing ok with PvP with sooo huge Equip differences....

If im right, at the beginning of the Mythic Time, the devs said, Mythics are the Reward for hard working Players, but they dont give a so big Advantage, that Legendary equipped Players are chanceless!!!!

What's left of it???

[Primeblades]

I have no mythics at all and i do fine! Wanna know my secrete? TWINKING!!!

[Jexetta]

I'm both in agreement and not in agreement -

From my experience, it seems rogues are affected the most by not having mythic gear, then followed by mages, and then followed by warriors. I pvp at end game with my warrior with only level 30 legendary gear and a devour maul - and I do just fine, a lot of it comes down to skill choices and timing.

With my rogue at end game I do find that gear will often win the day in large ctf clashes, in death match it's a bit easier. There is really almost nothing you can do in large clashes when the other team is like 2-3 mauls and 3 samaels - you just get stunned forever and it's 'good game'.

With mages and warriors you can develop a build that makes up for your differences in gear, with rogues I find that is less than the case. There are always tactics to take out an 'x enemy' in each instance, the old rogue method of just spamming skills to death doesn't work anymore - you have to be a bit smarter and conservative in your skill usage and that is something I have a +1 for.

I won't disagree that the equipment disparity has become large, but it's also the beginning of the season. Just wait till the end of the season when everyone complains about mythic gear not being special anymore because everyone has it.

[keikali]

Honestly, I don't have a single mythic and I don't mind PvP - I find it fun in fact. But if you MUST earn them mythics before playing the game how its meant to be played, i.e. ENJOYING it you should deck yourself out in elite pinks, and farm your arse off. Merch when you get offers and inch your way up.

Or...just learn to play your class good and become pro at pvp even without mythics! Several players in AL have achieved that - look at noisykillar who just posted above, who was beast before she even got her mythics.

Alhuntra = best non mythic mage in PvP, true story

[Bullox]

......and whats with New Players??

Lets say New Player X level up to lvl 36 and wants to do some decent PvP or Elites....

....hmm X needs Equip....maybe he buy 500 Plat and get 500.000k Gold for it, for $49.99!!!!!
At this time 500k is not much for endgame Equip.....
Now X starts to do some PvP with bis equip for $ 49.99!!!!
What do you think, how long have X fun with his expensive but worthless Equip???????

[gundamsone]

Or player x can earn his gold through merching or farming which is FREE.
What with people these days and the notion of "Mythics/Arcanes only available to craters"

Wrong wrong wrong

& this is a f2p/p2p mixed game so don't expect everyone to have equal status b/c those who pay deserve to have an automatic advantage

[gundamsone]

@ jexx

every class is put at a disadvantaged in full pinks.

wars drop dead in 1-2 combos and lose their ability to "tank"
mages can't get any kills with their low skill damage and gets insta deaths frequently
rogues imo are bit better off than the other 2 classes b/c they can still hit pretty high even without full mythics

[Bullox]

Please dont understand me wrong......i still love this Game and i know how to skill and play my characters....
And yep i still earn some kills

But its not the same fun.... its not funny, playing vs. unbeatable or oneshottting Players...

I think the Equip differences are out of control....

There is absolut no exciting competition left.....

[Zeus]

Mythics now are cheaper than ever...

Honestly, it's pretty easy to run Shuyal Arena every day and save up for the mythics because the only mythic that I would consider out of reach for most is the mythic daggers.

[Taejo]

Please dont understand me wrong......i still love this Game and i know how to skill and play my characters....
And yep i still earn some kills

But its not the same fun.... its not funny, playing vs. unbeatable or oneshottting Players...

I think the Equip differences are out of control....

There is absolut no exciting competition left.....

I agree, it takes a lot of time and effort to accumulate top gear in this game. That is why so many people on the forum are disheartened when the elitists say "just go farm your gear, it's not hard". I am guilty of saying this, too, but it does have truth to it. Take my sorcerer for example - he is in upgraded mythic and uses the "old", L31 gun. His jewelry is legendary stuff from Shuyal, not mythic. He has no arcane pets. I actually do fairly well in PvP, although I will say this season just got a lot tougher with the new mythic weapons. What's the solution? Stay away from PvP until I know I'm ready to survive in it. I think its important for everyone to realize that this is how 99% of MMORPG PvP is set up. It's very gear-dependent, but skills/game play can often times offset this depending on who you battle with. I used to "prove" this back when I played World of Warcraft on a PvP server, going around around killing people with a L1 dagger on my rogue (hurray OP rogues! ). I don't think AL is much different fundamentally from the next MMORPG in terms of PvP, except for the fact that CTF and TDM has several issues that will just never go away (which we, the players created).

I hate to say it, but just wait until you're ready for PvP in terms of gear - like I am. Yes, upgraded mythic armor/helm are better than your best version of Architect. Luckily for you, mythic armor/helms are at an all-time low, and will most likely continue to be cheap as the season passes. Just keep upgrading your gear as best you can. I find myself having to this every season, because it takes me a long time to accrue gold to buy my gear (I usually end up with mythic weapons towards the end of the season).

[Cero]

Theres a thread on suggestion sectiong, suggesting to have a separate room for legendary gear users from Mythic/arcane users.
-This was a good idea. Having a room of choice for Legendary users to enjoy pvp, figthing with other legendary users.

And Mythic/arcanes didnt actualy ruin pvp.

let me guess....you have some Mythics......

If i run PvP with my Rogue vs. a Mythic/Arcane Warrior.... i shoot all my 1,6k mana vs. Him and he dont die.....
Vs. a Mythic Sorc.....i die during Stunlock.....

If i do PvP with my Warrior(same as my Rogue only Legendary Equip).....vs. a Mythic Rogue i get 2or 3 shottet..... vs. Mythic/Maul Warri = chanceless....

I'm sure, im not the only Player, whithout Mythics which see this Problems...... and I say there is nothing ok with PvP with sooo huge Equip differences....

If im right, at the beginning of the Mythic Time, the devs said, Mythics are the Reward for hard working Players, but they dont give a so big Advantage, that Legendary equipped Players are chanceless!!!!

What's left of it???

my mage is full myhic,yes
my warrior just have upgraded helm
epic rings and pendants
archetic plate of grace.
arc weapon/dev maul

As what jex rogues has the most defeat.
A warrior with juggernaut cant survive and tank the dmg and for a sorc who use Curse can kill mostly rogues/sorc.

[Azepeiete]

So you're telling me after earning some gear, we shouldn't be able to use it to pvp?

[Axcvze]

Yep agreed