Mythics/Arcanes ruins PvP

[Bullox]

In my Opinion, the difference between Mythic/Arcane equipped Players and non Mythic Players is a big Number to high!

At the beginning with only Mythic Helmet all was fine...a lot of Players do PvP and have a chance vs. Players with Mythic Helmet....

Now, non Mythic Players are only fast-food..... and that also ruins the economy, because......

Who is willing to pay a lot of Gold for Expensive, hard farmed Elite Equip, if he know the cheap (crate) equip for pve is enough to do elites....

....and for pvp it doesnt matter if you wear cheap or expensive Legendary Equip, because whithout Mythics/Arcanes hes only fastfood....

..and thats the cause, so less players do pvp at time....

[Hnakkur]

100% agree!

[Cero]

Theres a thread on suggestion sectiong, suggesting to have a separate room for legendary gear users from Mythic/arcane users.
-This was a good idea. Having a room of choice for Legendary users to enjoy pvp, figthing with other legendary users.

And Mythic/arcanes didnt actualy ruin pvp.

[inkredible]

Theres a thread on suggestion sectiong, suggesting to have a separate room for legendary gear users from Mythic/arcane users.
-This was a good idea. Having a room of choice for Legendary users to enjoy pvp, figthing with other legendary users.

And Mythic/arcanes didnt actualy ruin pvp.

Cero runs pvp with legendary.. tuma (rogue) i knew he ran pvp before without havin full myth - at the time when he was only borrowing (this season)
the game isnt about 1v1 .. this is a team player.. and even if ur just wearing legendary gear.. with a good team ull survive and be just fine..
but obvs.. 1v1 legendary gear vs full mythic - no match..

[Taejo]

Cero runs pvp with legendary.. tuma (rogue) i knew he ran pvp before without havin full myth - at the time when he was only borrowing (this season)
the game isnt about 1v1 .. this is a team player.. and even if ur just wearing legendary gear.. with a good team ull survive and be just fine..
but obvs.. 1v1 legendary gear vs full mythic - no match..

I'm tired of posting the same response over and over, so I'll just quote Ink because he's absolutely correct. This upcoming tournament may very well prove this, too. Let's see how the mythic/legendary teams do against the heavy mythic/arcane teams

[falmear]

I'm tired of posting the same response over and over, so I'll just quote Ink because he's absolutely correct. This upcoming tournament may very well prove this, too. Let's see how the mythic/legendary teams do against the heavy mythic/arcane teams

The fact that arcanes were limited in the PvP tournament is proof that gear > skill. If you truly believe that you can survive and be just fine with just legendary gear then you shouldn't have limited arcane weapons and pets. Also the most heated threads in this forum are about boosting & nerfing stuff. And these all relate back to PvP. No one in PvE doing timed runs is crying that some weapon got boosted/nerfed. I don't understand how you can expect people to compete against those who have an arcane weapon, arcane pet, full mythic vs someone else who has legendary gear & pet. I don't really care because I have an arcane weapon and arcane pet. The only real balance I see is among the best gear (arcane/full mythic).

[Taejo]

The fact that arcanes were limited in the PvP tournament is proof that gear > skill. If you truly believe that you can survive and be just fine with just legendary gear then you shouldn't have limited arcane weapons and pets. Also the most heated threads in this forum are about boosting & nerfing stuff. And these all relate back to PvP. No one in PvE doing timed runs is crying that some weapon got boosted/nerfed. I don't understand how you can expect people to compete against those who have an arcane weapon, arcane pet, full mythic vs someone else who has legendary gear & pet. I don't really care because I have an arcane weapon and arcane pet. The only real balance I see is among the best gear (arcane/full mythic).

I see your point, and yes we limited arcanes so that no one could create a powerhouse team. We also made this rule so that those who are firm believers in the arcane > all theory wouldn't be discouraged from joining the tournament. The gear > skill claim is extremely circumstantial in CTF, and in a team strategy match you cannot generalize something like that. Strategy and teamwork can easily overpower any arcane weapon. The fact is we could argue in circles about this all day long. Until the day where someone sets up a 5v5 CTF match with red wearing legendary stuff and blue wearing mythic/arcane, we will never know for sure. All I know, is I've played some great PvP matches in AL where legendary players were wiping the floor with the big, bad arcane wielders.

[Soundlesskill]

Yeah, it's not longer skill based, it's mythic/arcane based. I'd pvp again if they made it more skill based.....

[nightmaresmoke]

Yeah, it's not longer skill based, it's mythic/arcane based. I'd pvp again if they made it more skill based.....

Super agree its all about how u are rich now not how skilled u are which is lame if u ask me..

[Jetzzz]

Then you can create twinks for pvp. Problem solved

[Soundlesskill]

Then you can create twinks for pvp. Problem solved

This isn't the sulotion.
1. Endgame pvp and twink pvp is not the same skills required, like the mana might be a problem for a endgamer going twink.
2. Ewwww twinks!

[nightmaresmoke]

This isn't the sulotion.
1. Endgame pvp and twink pvp is not the same skills required, like the mana might be a problem for a endgamer going twink.
2. Ewwww twinks!

Yep twinks are disgusting lol i mean u make a twink with full good gears and some have arcane and myth pets and some say to theres kills wkwkwk lol really now u farm poor players and u call them weak?? i mean come on they are poor no wonder there weak, and twinks boast of almost of there kills thats why twinks ewwww... like u said lol

[Alhuntrazeck]

Honestly, I don't have a single mythic and I don't mind PvP - I find it fun in fact. But if you MUST earn them mythics before playing the game how its meant to be played, i.e. ENJOYING it you should deck yourself out in elite pinks, and farm your arse off. Merch when you get offers and inch your way up.

Or...just learn to play your class good and become pro at pvp even without mythics! Several players in AL have achieved that - look at noisykillar who just posted above, who was beast before she even got her mythics.

[keikali]

Honestly, I don't have a single mythic and I don't mind PvP - I find it fun in fact. But if you MUST earn them mythics before playing the game how its meant to be played, i.e. ENJOYING it you should deck yourself out in elite pinks, and farm your arse off. Merch when you get offers and inch your way up.

Or...just learn to play your class good and become pro at pvp even without mythics! Several players in AL have achieved that - look at noisykillar who just posted above, who was beast before she even got her mythics.

Alhuntra = best non mythic mage in PvP, true story

[Bullox]

Theres a thread on suggestion sectiong, suggesting to have a separate room for legendary gear users from Mythic/arcane users.
-This was a good idea. Having a room of choice for Legendary users to enjoy pvp, figthing with other legendary users.

And Mythic/arcanes didnt actualy ruin pvp.

let me guess....you have some Mythics......

If i run PvP with my Rogue vs. a Mythic/Arcane Warrior.... i shoot all my 1,6k mana vs. Him and he dont die.....
Vs. a Mythic Sorc.....i die during Stunlock.....

If i do PvP with my Warrior(same as my Rogue only Legendary Equip).....vs. a Mythic Rogue i get 2or 3 shottet..... vs. Mythic/Maul Warri = chanceless....

I'm sure, im not the only Player, whithout Mythics which see this Problems...... and I say there is nothing ok with PvP with sooo huge Equip differences....

If im right, at the beginning of the Mythic Time, the devs said, Mythics are the Reward for hard working Players, but they dont give a so big Advantage, that Legendary equipped Players are chanceless!!!!

What's left of it???

[Primeblades]

I have no mythics at all and i do fine! Wanna know my secrete? TWINKING!!!

[nightmaresmoke]

I have no mythics at all and i do fine! Wanna know my secrete? TWINKING!!!

ewww twink

[Jexetta]

I'm both in agreement and not in agreement -

From my experience, it seems rogues are affected the most by not having mythic gear, then followed by mages, and then followed by warriors. I pvp at end game with my warrior with only level 30 legendary gear and a devour maul - and I do just fine, a lot of it comes down to skill choices and timing.

With my rogue at end game I do find that gear will often win the day in large ctf clashes, in death match it's a bit easier. There is really almost nothing you can do in large clashes when the other team is like 2-3 mauls and 3 samaels - you just get stunned forever and it's 'good game'.

With mages and warriors you can develop a build that makes up for your differences in gear, with rogues I find that is less than the case. There are always tactics to take out an 'x enemy' in each instance, the old rogue method of just spamming skills to death doesn't work anymore - you have to be a bit smarter and conservative in your skill usage and that is something I have a +1 for.

I won't disagree that the equipment disparity has become large, but it's also the beginning of the season. Just wait till the end of the season when everyone complains about mythic gear not being special anymore because everyone has it.

[Bullox]

......and whats with New Players??

Lets say New Player X level up to lvl 36 and wants to do some decent PvP or Elites....

....hmm X needs Equip....maybe he buy 500 Plat and get 500.000k Gold for it, for $49.99!!!!!
At this time 500k is not much for endgame Equip.....
Now X starts to do some PvP with bis equip for $ 49.99!!!!
What do you think, how long have X fun with his expensive but worthless Equip???????

[gundamsone]

@ jexx

every class is put at a disadvantaged in full pinks.

wars drop dead in 1-2 combos and lose their ability to "tank"
mages can't get any kills with their low skill damage and gets insta deaths frequently
rogues imo are bit better off than the other 2 classes b/c they can still hit pretty high even without full mythics