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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Truth.

    My goal is to get my legs back, and hopefully do a sprint triathlon next summer, and build from there. The cycling comes easy as that has been my drug for the last 10 years, but I have missed running. I would love to complete a full IronMan triathlon before I hit 40, but not sure my knees can handle 26+ miles of running.

    @Will - He did.... horrible in state. Finished approximately 2 minutes slower than his regional time. I don't know if running with 300+ boys intimidated or what. He said his knees were bothering him, but haven't bothered him all season, so who knows. Could be a growth spurt. He wants to run in high school next year so I am going to start his training in a few weeks to start getting him built up for the extra mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jig View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jig View Post
    Screw running, go lift some weights!
    Or do both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Truth.

    My goal is to get my legs back, and hopefully do a sprint triathlon next summer, and build from there. The cycling comes easy as that has been my drug for the last 10 years, but I have missed running. I would love to complete a full IronMan triathlon before I hit 40, but not sure my knees can handle 26+ miles of running.

    @Will - He did.... horrible in state. Finished approximately 2 minutes slower than his regional time. I don't know if running with 300+ boys intimidated or what. He said his knees were bothering him, but haven't bothered him all season, so who knows. Could be a growth spurt. He wants to run in high school next year so I am going to start his training in a few weeks to start getting him built up for the extra mileage.
    I'm sure he would be nervous from the competition. If that were me running state the first time, my legs would feel a little shaky. It's important to focus on both the physical and psychological aspect of running if he wants to compete at a high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    I'm sure he would be nervous from the competition. If that were me running state the first time, my legs would feel a little shaky. It's important to focus on both the physical and psychological aspect of running if he wants to compete at a high level.
    The physical part of running is easy, if you put in the work, you get what you give.

    The mental part of running, is where I see the most problems in us runners.

    As a freshman I struggled terribly with the mental aspect of running, mid season I started developing the mental toughness that is needed to perform at a high level.

    According to Olympian and author Jeff Galloway: “The brain has two hemispheres that are separated and don’t interconnect. The left-brain tries to steer us towards pleasure and away from discomfort. The intuitive-creative right side connects us to our hidden strengths.”

    By mentally preparing for the extreme and not so extreme challenges you expect, you will empower the right side of the brain and develop mental toughness. As we accumulate stress and uncomfort, the left-brain sends us a stream of negative messages telling us to “slow down,” “stop and you’ll feel better,” “this isn’t your day,” and even “why are you doing this?”

    But you can't stop, and you won't stop (hehe), you just need to push the limits of yourself both physically and mentally, and some amazing things are going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    Say no to drugs crim!
    My European brother, you know better than I do the addictive nature of cycling. NOTHING beats going down the side of a mountain at 50+ mph.

    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    I'm sure he would be nervous from the competition. If that were me running state the first time, my legs would feel a little shaky. It's important to focus on both the physical and psychological aspect of running if he wants to compete at a high level.
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    The physical part of running is easy, if you put in the work, you get what you give.

    The mental part of running, is where I see the most problems in us runners.

    As a freshman I struggled terribly with the mental aspect of running, mid season I started developing the mental toughness that is needed to perform at a high level.

    According to Olympian and author Jeff Galloway: “The brain has two hemispheres that are separated and don’t interconnect. The left-brain tries to steer us towards pleasure and away from discomfort. The intuitive-creative right side connects us to our hidden strengths.”

    By mentally preparing for the extreme and not so extreme challenges you expect, you will empower the right side of the brain and develop mental toughness. As we accumulate stress and uncomfort, the left-brain sends us a stream of negative messages telling us to “slow down,” “stop and you’ll feel better,” “this isn’t your day,” and even “why are you doing this?”

    But you can't stop, and you won't stop (hehe), you just need to push the limits of yourself both physically and mentally, and some amazing things are going to happen.
    This is what I have been preaching to him since he started. He has never played an organized sport before now and when he said he wanted to run, I told him his "mental toughness" would be the hardest thing to overcome. He has the physical makeup (skin and bones like I was at his age) andgenetics (I love endurance sports as I played soccer for 8 years, run, and got into cycling about 10 years ago), but has got to learn how to push when there is literally nothing left in the tank or he gets that ischemic side pain (sharp pain in side due to oxygen depletion.)

    He will be fine. As I slowly get back in shape, I will be able to run with him and push him. At some point, he will get tired of the "old man" blowing his socks off.
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    I've been playing sports for a long time, and have done all kinds of sports (Soccer, football, baseball, basketball, vball, etc.) From all of my experiences though, no matter how good shape you are, running and swimming arguably require the strongest mental set. If you can overcome and endure long runs and push yourself even more each time, than you can really accomplish anything else in life. Running is individual - that's why I can't compare it to soccer. There's a HUGE sense of family in a competitive soccer team, which is something I'll always cherish. You can always take something out of any sport you play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    I've been playing sports for a long time, and have done all kinds of sports (Soccer, football, baseball, basketball, vball, etc.) From all of my experiences though, no matter how good shape you are, running and swimming arguably require the strongest mental set. If you can overcome and endure long runs and push yourself even more each time, than you can really accomplish anything else in life. Running is individual - that's why I can't compare it to soccer. There's a HUGE sense of family in a competitive soccer team, which is something I'll always cherish. You can always take something out of any sport you play.
    You should try a 100 mile (yes, mile) bicycle ride over 3 mountains. Not sure if I had mental toughness or mental insanity.

    My interest has also risen lately in doing a trail ultra-marathon. Something about being in the woods makes me happy.
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    Always wanted to do triathlon but never got around to do it I've got pretty good stamina for it considering I do sport 24/7 with college and local club sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    You should try a 100 mile (yes, mile) bicycle ride over 3 mountains. Not sure if I had mental toughness or mental insanity.

    My interest has also risen lately in doing a trail ultra-marathon. Something about being in the woods makes me happy.
    My dad just completed his first triathlon. He's having some plate-surgery now, as we speak... the physical exercise kind of took a toll on his body.

    But before his surgery he said he wouldn't have wanted to do triathlon any differently. He had the time of his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    My dad just completed his first triathlon. He's having some plate-surgery now, as we speak... the physical exercise kind of took a toll on his body.

    But before his surgery he said he wouldn't have wanted to do triathlon any differently. He had the time of his life.
    Will.. this does not provide me with any encouragement. (Sounds like your dad and I share a common thread of mental insanity. Old enough to know better, young enough not to care.)

    LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Will.. this does not provide me with any encouragement. (Sounds like your dad and I share a common thread of mental insanity. Old enough to know better, young enough not to care.)

    LOL.
    It sure wouldn't encourage me either if I was older and then hear about that. But running isn't really my thing anyways, I'd much rather go backpacking or rock-climbing. A 100 mile backpacking trip through the Appalachians is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Will.. this does not provide me with any encouragement. (Sounds like your dad and I share a common thread of mental insanity. Old enough to know better, young enough not to care.)

    LOL.
    U shoulda have done it like I did Crim, hurt urself so bad u can't have a hobby requiring thigh muscles. Eases a lot of stress

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    Screw running, go lift some weights!
    But don't forget the importance of Whey protein powder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Will.. this does not provide me with any encouragement. (Sounds like your dad and I share a common thread of mental insanity. Old enough to know better, young enough not to care.)

    LOL.
    Well that's actually because he's been running WAY too much on concrete (sidewalks). The concrete was terrible for his knees. The trick, he told me, is to run more frequently on soft pavement, or a nature trail (on dirt).

    As a substitute, he's been biking and swimming. Swimming is actually a very good method for loosening up muscles and strengthening them.

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    Keep going, Crim! You're doing great!


    What I do to see noticeable results after not running is hit myself hard on leg press. On one or two days of the week, hit those gluts, quads, etc until you can barely lift 1 plate on each side. The next day will be hell but when you're all healed up, you will notice a vast improvement in stamina/speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    Well that's actually because he's been running WAY too much on concrete (sidewalks). The concrete was terrible for his knees. The trick, he told me, is to run more frequently on soft pavement, or a nature trail (on dirt).

    As a substitute, he's been biking and swimming. Swimming is actually a very good method for loosening up muscles and strengthening them.
    One reason I invested in a road bike was this very reason: I had put so many miles on my knees and back it was getting hard to run. This was about the time I began physical therapy school and completely changed my approach to fitness and health. In the case of a runner, if you do not cross train (cycle, swim, trail run, row machine), as well as work on functional strength and flexibility, you are not training properly. These are things I was not taught in my teens and will cost me later in life from a "wear and tear" standpoint.

    Doesn't matter, about to put 5 miles in. O.o
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