Crafting Initial Thoughts Feedback Thread

**VanRah** · 11-01-2013, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Instanthumor

A pet leveling up gem would seriously be too OP.

O.o why?

**Cremated** · 11-01-2013, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Drearivev

Nope.
Lep + 30 minute + combo = 15% + 25% + 30% = 70%.

You cannot stack combo and 30min

**Zabahakadar** · 11-01-2013, 04:27 AM

Upgrading and crafting properties smells like " Path Of Exile " game. Gems, crafting and upgrading makes Path Of Exile better game than Diablo 3. This will make AL a super game also.

**Glasveena** · 11-01-2013, 06:10 AM

This would be a nice update.

Just wondering though...
"Essences are magical in nature and bind their energy to the person who holds them. As such, Essences are not tradeable."
Will the essence take that many of our inventory slot? If I do not have plat, I can't upgrade my stash/inventory, then it might be full of essences :S

**Drearivev** · 11-01-2013, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Cremated

You cannot stack combo and 30min

I believe you can. Otherwise, there's no other way we could get 70% reroll.

Anyways, I doubt Luck Gems are ever going to be added, so let's not talk about that

**Morholt** · 11-01-2013, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cremated

You cannot stack combo and 30min

You cannot in the sense that you can't intentionally; however, they DO stack if you already are on a combo elixir and then either Klaas or Sazbot gives you a reroll elixir. I believe it works the other way around, too (start on luck elixir & then granted combo).

**Guildarts** · 11-01-2013, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Energizeric

I agree with all that has been said here. I was hoping for a crafting system like in PL. I agree that plat should be somewhat helpful, but it should not allow you to buy the entire thing. All that you are doing by making it that way is adding something tedious to the game -- now to compete you will be forced to upgrade all your weapons as everyone will have upgraded weapons.

This game seems to becoming less fun and more tedious as time goes on. What makes a game like this fun is to be able to strive to get something that very few others have. Players will play hours and days on end trying to achieve stuff like that. But when you add tasks into the game that are time consuming but easy to accomplish, all you do is make us get bored while doing this task that we must do because everyone else is doing it.

It seems to me that within a week everyone will have their weapons upgraded with 2 or 3 gems, and plat spenders will have loaded up the consignment shop with gems for sale. That hardly makes this interesting. What would be interesting is if these crafting items were very rare, and very few players upgraded their weapons. Then when you finally found enough essences to craft a gem, you would be holding a rather pricey item that you could either use or sell. Kind of like glyph steels in PL. How boring would PL have been if you could buy glyph steels for plat.

But fine, if you are going to sell essences/gems for plat, at least make them very expensive, a few hundred plat each. That way at least the price of these items keeps it interesting. Otherwise it just adds something tedious to the game without adding anything fun.

IMO a fully upgraded item should be worth considerably more than the base item. Kind of like in PL how a crafted demonic item is worth about 10 times its uncrafted glyph counterpart. On the other hand, if the gems are so common that the upgraded weapon is only worth a 10% premium, then that will make this entire system rather boring and uninteresting.

I agree

**kill4l** · 11-01-2013, 01:29 PM

Will you be able to remove gems from items? Or once u upgrade u can't change the gems?

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**steven_soj** · 11-01-2013, 01:43 PM

Lol is the gems only can find with high lvl how about the low lvl?
I mean is the gems can found on any map or only some map?

**Crowsfoot** · 11-01-2013, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by steven_soj

Lol is the gems only can find with high lvl how about the low lvl?
I mean is the gems can found on any map or only some map?

Read what Sam posted, any map. Additionally, they will drop from chests, breakables, and enemies.

Aka: anyone can farm essences anywhere.

**Instanthumor** · 11-01-2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by kill4l

Will you be able to remove gems from items? Or once u upgrade u can't change the gems?

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You won't be able to 'remove' gems from any items, but you are allowed to replace that gem.

**Morholt** · 11-01-2013, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Instanthumor

You won't be able to 'remove' gems from any items, but you are allowed to replace that gem.

replace it with the same kind, in hopes of a superior bond.***
You can't replace a blood with a glacial.

**Milan Lame Man** · 11-01-2013, 05:04 PM

Some more ideas...
1. The colors don't make much sense. On the map, warriors are yellow dots, rogues green and sorcerers blue. You should stick with that. Say Sun, Earth, Sky? (sky makes more sense than ice for intelligence/sorcerer).

2. Let me repeat myself, have you considered the idea of multiple levels of gems? It might give us reason to run harder maps. Obviously the CS would need a revamp too. And the gems should be removable, even if it took 2 other-colored essences to wash it out.

3. How about gems for vanities? I would totally love violet founder's robe with orange zebra stripes and red sparkles.

**Carapace** · 11-01-2013, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Morholt

replace it with the same kind, in hopes of a superior bond.***
You can't replace a blood with a glacial.

Previous wording was poor, you can absolutely replace with a different gem if you want to

**valheeru** · 11-01-2013, 08:44 PM

will essences take over my inventory? non plat user

**Crowsfoot** · 11-01-2013, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by valheeru

will essences take over my inventory? non plat user

Read the original post. Essences do not take up inventory space and cannot be sold. Once you obtain 20 of a specific essence you can forge them I to the correlating gem. Gems, probably, will take up inventory space but are sellable.

**Morholt** · 11-01-2013, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Crowsfoot

Read the original post. Essences do not take up inventory space and cannot be sold. Once you obtain 20 of a specific essence you can forge them I to the correlating gem. Gems, probably, will take up inventory space but are sellable.

Nowhere does it say 20...I assume that was a typo and you meant 10?
Also, sts has said they currently intend to have essences on the inventory.
I've been suggesting other ways, though. Check my post at the bottom of the first page of this thread:

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...nventory-Slots

**Arlorgoddess** · 11-02-2013, 01:34 AM

i had suggestions on this thread http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...d-a-suggestion

**Boyinblue** · 11-02-2013, 02:54 AM

Awsome! should get it!

**Carapace** · 11-02-2013, 11:10 PM

In regards to concerns related to inventory and essences, we feel fairly confident that non paying players will have enough craft slots (5 can be active at a time, for 8 hours each) that they should have limited inventory concerns.

That's 50 essences a day that can be crafted every 8 hours. (Assuming of course they all are same types and layer nicely to do so.) That means over 200 in a 24 hour period!

Like we do with new systems we will be watching to see what actually happens. At the moment it's an educated assumption at best.

Thanks for all the great feedback guys!