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    Sorry guys but i will have to stay behind Valsacar on this one.. I mean whenever i hear a "I got scammed" i just cant help myself but thinking "gg mate took some effort didn't it?" Seriously 2 confirmation windows and no time limit to press that confirm button.. double check. triple check. and btw most scam cases i hear are ridiculous. like "someone told me to buy him this item and trade him in order to give me what i asked. i bought the item and now he is gone.. wasted my money help!" Oh so you did what a complete stranger told you and now you are wondering why it didn't work out? ok........ To me it's all down to "be more careful" rather than finding fancy solutions.

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    There is no perfect solution. If you want more complexity and protection, it comes at a price.

    However, i think commas in the gold amount should solve 99% of these problems
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    Can there be put the stats button of the item to in the trade window? the same button like in the auctionhouse?

    Because we have alot items with same name different level, different stats.. So we could easly see wich item hes trading. I use that statsbutton all the time at AH.
    Felt almost twice for that type of scam in a trading window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Although I agree with that statement, it's obvious people fail to use common sense. Maybe it's because it's a kids game or people are just not that smart. I don't know.

    Your 'solution' that people should just need to use common sense has already proven not to work. Just look at the numerous 'I got scammed threads', and that's just a really small sample size. Is it the people's own fault if they get scammed? Sure, but that doesn't make them feel any better and might ruin their playing experience to such an extend that they'll never want to play again.

    You basically say, 'tough break, live with it' while most people that are posting solutions, including myself, believe that if there were valid mechanics that can be used to prevent most sorts of scams, it would make the game a better place. Especially for the people who lack, what seems natural to you, common sense.

    As said, I do agree people need to use their brains, but I don't see them start doing that by a forum post. I understand that telling people to smarten up is the easiest take on the whole problem, but I believe it's possible, although harder of course, to come up with something that would actually benefit the community. How I see it is that a way that would mostly prevent having to tell anyone to double check or use common sense anymore, is better than having to tell them over and over again.
    correcto to the "T". This is a children's game, and as such, more measures need to be put in place to help people have a great gaming experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octavos View Post
    correcto to the "T". This is a children's game, and as such, more measures need to be put in place to help people have a great gaming experience.
    Are you calling me a child???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedenos View Post
    Are you calling me a child???
    we all are. XD
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    As some said, trollers will come, but better to get trolled then getting scammed
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Although I agree with that statement, it's obvious people fail to use common sense. Maybe it's because it's a kids game or people are just not that smart. I don't know.

    Your 'solution' that people should just need to use common sense has already proven not to work. Just look at the numerous 'I got scammed threads', and that's just a really small sample size. Is it the people's own fault if they get scammed? Sure, but that doesn't make them feel any better and might ruin their playing experience to such an extend that they'll never want to play again.

    You basically say, 'tough break, live with it' while most people that are posting solutions, including myself, believe that if there were valid mechanics that can be used to prevent most sorts of scams, it would make the game a better place. Especially for the people who lack, what seems natural to you, common sense.

    As said, I do agree people need to use their brains, but I don't see them start doing that by a forum post. I understand that telling people to smarten up is the easiest take on the whole problem, but I believe it's possible, although harder of course, to come up with something that would actually benefit the community. How I see it is that a way that would mostly prevent having to tell anyone to double check or use common sense anymore, is better than having to tell them over and over again.
    Yes, but what you all seem to be missing is that locks only keep out the honest people. People are going to scam, and they will always find ways around whatever system is put in place. The only defenses are common sense, and STS taking action against those that are caught (and they should be naming and shaming them, so others can see that there ARE consequences). This, suggested, system just adds more complexity and creates a new way for people to troll. It does very little to actually resolve the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higuani View Post
    Can there be put the stats button of the item to in the trade window? the same button like in the auctionhouse?

    Because we have alot items with same name different level, different stats.. So we could easly see wich item hes trading. I use that statsbutton all the time at AH.
    Felt almost twice for that type of scam in a trading window.
    I've been wondering for a while why this doesn't exist. I don't think it will really help much with any types of scams, but it would be a nice feature to have either way.

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