Confessions of an ALcoholic... (Warrior Tanking Thread)

[Newcomx]

I think Jugg is important for tanking... but charging VB will add +50 str and boost your health. What about using both Jugg and VB?

[Jirikjurasek]

I use both for harder boss fight. My party usually consist of 1 rogue (with mythic armor and helm and architect qills) and pink rogue and pink mage. Through elite shyual I get cs/wm/jugg/hor and for boss fight change hor for vb (however, in case of ashral crystal and wraith heart is hor important).
This because by "that boss who look like big flower" (3. map I think, Iīm in work and not ingame, so i canīt look) I need bigger dmg (=> vb + architect blade of assault) for killing blue minions.
In case of Innan, im face to face and rogues with mages are out of range his red zone attack (and out of zone my HoR), so there isnīt a reason for using hor.

and for using passive armor, I think, that the biggest problem is non-acquaintance of reduction coefficient or if there is some armor cap as is in WoW for example

ps: While crafting system is up, and free respec will come, I get out 5 points from passive dexterity and get them do durable, it will be +102 armor for me, but donīt know how try effectivity.
pps: I read somewhere, that Rally cry is better than VB cos dmg reduction. VB has heal return when hit, and in combination with jugg i noticed, that I coulīd die in elite shyual with +-7-10 minions attacking me

[Crowsfoot]

1) I would never unmap HoR. It is your taunt, and party shield/heal.

2) @newcomx I use both vb and jugg regularly while tanking elite or in when in PvP.

[Newcomx]

I use both for harder boss fight. My party usually consist of 1 rogue (with mythic armor and helm and architect qills) and pink rogue and pink mage. Through elite shyual I get cs/wm/jugg/hor and for boss fight change hor for vb (however, in case of ashral crystal and wraith heart is hor important).
This because by "that boss who look like big flower" (3. map I think, Iīm in work and not ingame, so i canīt look) I need bigger dmg (=> vb + architect blade of assault) for killing blue minions.
In case of Innan, im face to face and rogues with mages are out of range his red zone attack (and out of zone my HoR), so there isnīt a reason for using hor.

and for using passive armor, I think, that the biggest problem is non-acquaintance of reduction coefficient or if there is some armor cap as is in WoW for example

ps: While crafting system is up, and free respec will come, I get out 5 points from passive dexterity and get them do durable, it will be +102 armor for me, but donīt know how try effectivity.
pps: I read somewhere, that Rally cry is better than VB cos dmg reduction. VB has heal return when hit, and in combination with jugg i noticed, that I coulīd die in elite shyual with +-7-10 minions attacking me

I also think rally cry is better because the skill beneficial for all party

[Jirikjurasek]

1) I would never unmap HoR. It is your taunt, and party shield/heal.

I use cs, so I have lot of taunt :-) and by in ashral tower I get the boss out of party and they are out of range my HoR

I also think rally cry is better because the skill beneficial for all party

I used to use RC too, for easier elite its absolutelly perfect skill (and the best time of use 12s/20s cooldown), but for shyual its better to use jugg. (I really missing thar speed buff:-) I think, that its not neccesary to buff party, when they are not under attack.
At weekend I plan respec to cs/wm/jugg/hor and durable/str/dex/int, in compare from actually build I drop out VB and take durable in theory, that "When you donīt have to care about HP you can care about team" :-)

[Newcomx]

I use cs, so I have lot of taunt :-) and by in ashral tower I get the boss out of party and they are out of range my HoR

I used to use RC too, for easier elite its absolutelly perfect skill (and the best time of use 12s/20s cooldown), but for shyual its better to use jugg. (I really missing thar speed buff:-) I think, that its not neccesary to buff party, when they are not under attack.
At weekend I plan respec to cs/wm/jugg/hor and durable/str/dex/int, in compare from actually build I drop out VB and take durable in theory, that "When you donīt have to care about HP you can care about team" :-)

I never use RC, i want to try in free respec event... but when i use sorc and party with warr using RC, i cast skill faster, so the damage increase also.. CMIIW

[Jirikjurasek]

...warr using RC, i cast skill faster, so the damage increase also.. CMIIW

Are you sure that you cast faster? I think, that all "speed" bonus in game mean only moving speed

[Crowsfoot]

Rally Cry vs Jugg
(Make your own conclusion)

Rally cry slightly increases armor for the party, jugg decreases damage intake by 20%.

Rally cry increases dodge (mi d you that 100% dodge isn't really a 100% chance [same said for critical chance]), jugg makes you immortal.

Rally cry increases movement speed, jugg makes you immune to stun.

Rally cry has a short cool down but a small influence, jugg has a long cool down but a massive influence.

[Crowsfoot]

I use cs, so I have lot of taunt :-)

Cs doesn't taunt...just saying.

[inkredible]

Cs doesn't taunt...just saying.

what he said ^

it has feeble.. aka anti-crit

[Newcomx]

Are you sure that you cast faster? I think, that all "speed" bonus in game mean only moving speed

I feel faster.. just try crow skill set, and satisfy with the result, wanna try to with CS, see if its better than Windmill... not yet try using RC

[Jirikjurasek]

Cs doesn't taunt...just saying.

do you mean realy that? Chest splitter has taunt

[parnasofication]

...reps were so high till they said CS doesn't taunt. CS taunts. Check skill description and try using skill.

Sent from under my bed.

[Newcomx]

Using RC with movement speed definitely charging faster... already try it. So now i'm using CS, VB, RC, HOR

[Crowsfoot]

I tested it just to see what u were talking about, literally no difference.

Movement speed is how quickly you walk/run around. Its throw away points unless you are doing timed runs.

[tobirama_senju82]

Just use "CS,Jugg,RC and Horn" in elite tanking. Pavisse weapon . and youll be satisfied.

[Newcomx]

I tested it just to see what u were talking about, literally no difference.

Movement speed is how quickly you walk/run around. Its throw away points unless you are doing timed runs.

I also can't tell the different for the warr that charging skill, but i tested with sorc, and he said it's a little bit faster when charging skill... and also dodge can be useful if we run with Rogue... this skill useful with party i think.. cmiiw

[Newcomx]

Just use "CS,Jugg,RC and Horn" in elite tanking. Pavisse weapon . and youll be satisfied.

Wanna try this too..

[tobirama_senju82]

its very effective bro . just timing the taunt between jugg and horn and charged RC to benefit the party for boosting dodge, damage reduction and movement speed. CS for canceling the attack of the mobs and for some bosses.

[Crowsfoot]

Just use "CS,Jugg,RC and Horn" in elite tanking. Pavisse weapon . and youll be satisfied.

You need fairly low damage and dps for this to be a viable option (around 210 and below damage) IMO.