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    Default The Keeper after the update.

    The boss "K'sarr the Keeper" has always had a reputation of being tough, but I think he may be too tough. With a full party and over an hour of beating on him, he is just now at half health. I mean there is tough and then there is just ridiculous.

    Maybe we are doing something wrong and someone can enlighten me.

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    WHy you want a hard keeper? i want kill the keeper only with one hit, if you are looking for some dificult why you donīt go only by yourselft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neto333 View Post
    WHy you want a hard keeper? i want kill the keeper only with one hit, if you are looking for some dificult why you donīt go only by yourselft?
    Sorry, I don't speak gibberish.
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    It took us 4 mages roughly 6-7 minutes to kill him, what is your line up? No elixirs yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    It took us 4 mages roughly 6-7 minutes to kill him, what is your line up? No elixirs yeah?
    No bird? ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesrider View Post
    No bird? ...
    No, 3 int/dex mages and 1 dexchantress. It took us that long because I remember using an elixir before the fight, and after it wore out it died a bit afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    No, 3 int/dex mages and 1 dexchantress. It took us that long because I remember using an elixir before the fight, and after it wore out it died a bit afterwards.
    I thought only birds can take down the shield??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesrider View Post
    I thought only birds can take down the shield??
    Nah, keeper shield only takes time to be removed. Its only Overlords shield that can be taken down by a bird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesrider View Post
    No bird? ...
    Mage can out dmg bird now dude, go try it...
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    I am sure the bosses are going to need special attention to balancing after we get the players all worked out. Thanks for your patience and constructive feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    It took us 4 mages roughly 6-7 minutes to kill him, what is your line up? No elixirs yeah?
    A war mage, two tanks, and two mages. No elixirs. I can see where an all mage party might do well in this scenareio. If you keep bombarding him in a corner does he not have time to retaliate? or do you have one person pulling and the others chasing?

    Right now we have a tank pulling aggro and the rest of us are beating on him.

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    I am sure the bosses are going to need special attention to balancing after we get the players all worked out. Thanks for your patience and constructive feedback.
    No problem.


    EDIT:
    We just finally defeated him. It took close to two hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogediah View Post
    A war mage, two tanks, and two mages. No elixirs. I can see where an all mage party might do well in this scenareio. If you keep bombarding him in a corner does he not have time to retaliate? or do you have one person pulling and the others chasing?

    Right now we have a tank pulling aggro and the rest of us are beating on him.

    First problem I see is no bird, thats 70 armor that you could have taken off when his shield is down. Not to mention the bird damage debuff.

    War mage is a pally or a dexchantress? Either way, after rebalance update both don't do as much dps anymore. Furthermore with tanks, they do even less DPS now.

    We were able to do it by just one mage with aggro running around til his shield drops, spike him, rinse repeat. One of us had a damage elixir but we were all in laser wands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    First problem I see is no bird, thats 70 armor that you could have taken off when his shield is down. Not to mention the bird damage debuff.

    War mage is a pally or a dexchantress? Either way, after rebalance update both don't do as much dps anymore. Furthermore with tanks, they do even less DPS now.

    We were able to do it by just one mage with aggro running around til his shield drops, spike him, rinse repeat. One of us had a damage elixir but we were all in laser wands.
    I forgot birds have armor break! I'll have to add that to the mix next time. We had one character that wasn't really apart of our group and was filled with random people as we went, and it seemed general consensus that it hasn't taken them that long to kill him. One guy said he had already killed him 3 times this evening. He couldn't figure out why it was taking so long either.

    It was a pally. I don't really miss the DPS either. Before playing and just seeing the numbers I was a little upset at first, but after playing I think it balances things out. With skills higher and more important, it seems to speed up the game (when you aren't playing the keeper lol) and require more attention and skill than auto-attack did.

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    Are you saying you need a balanced party and a good strategy to beat bosses? What a strange idea....
    Just the opposite. I happen to like the update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    I am sure the bosses are going to need special attention to balancing after we get the players all worked out. Thanks for your patience and constructive feedback.
    Itd be easier, and better for all of us, if we made this update never happen.

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    That means that the bosses will bee imporved? why? only with this update all is dificult now? pff

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    Are you saying you need a balanced party and a good strategy to beat bosses? What a strange idea....

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    Interesting. Over an hour just seems ridiculous. Would you have happened to notice his shield? Was it up most of the time? Did he put it up quickly right after?

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    I was being sarcastic ogediah. Clearly, people got too accustomed to mindlessly attacking things. I love this update because it should clear out all of the people with no work ethic or patience and, therefore, make the game more enjoyable.

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    If this update means skills are more effective, that means some groups will have a good time. Keeper goes down quick if you do your damage when his shield is down. You can see his life meter go down and it's fast, or it CAN be fast if timed properly.

    I can also see where some people would have trouble with the new update, if skills are more interesting. I see lots of groups and players run around barely using their skills or even knowing what those skills are. It's a little bit less in Ao3, but just barely. You can still find birds that don't break armor, scream, etc., and bears that can barely stun. So an update that puts a greater emphasis on skills to defeat mobs would be difficult for that type of player.

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    Keeper is only hard if you can't get shield down. 2 birdies 1 tank 1 enchantress never killed anyone. well, except the keeper.
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