Mythic Pendant and Ring Upgrade

[Anarchist]

Alright if the problem here is that every rich player has a myth and if myths will be upgradable next season they won't farm for it and new season gears would be worthless we can:

1)
Give the new season gears better stats than current myth and leave the mythic NOT upgradeable for a very long time (6-7Weeks).
But this is a temporary solution sooner or later we will be back here after the sixth week discussing.

2)Let myth and only myth gears be obtainable from new expansion map after following a outrageous questline. Half or 3/4 of the quest is used for upgrading the mythic gear , the rest of the quest will grant a non tradeable mythic gear to the non mythic player after he complete the all the quest.

The best suggestion i have seen so far is of Energizeric:


www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?114281

[Morholt]

But when you come to think of it, don't you think that's already happening?

Getting new mythics first gives you the advantage, yes.
But at least with new ones, you actually have to try getting them. Nor are they rampantly abundant. With upping old mythics, they are way too many at the start--especially with how easy it is...breaking barrels...lol

Mythic items are very abundant. They've been available for 2 seasons already--3 for the helm! Really...you guys want the same items dropping for 3-4 seasons as the top item?!

New items are good for every game & its community.

Having an item continuously being the best of its kind for many seasons is ridiculous and makes for a very lame game. Not upgrading your gear after a while is going to get lame to everyone at some point.

Mythic items are supposed to last for 2 level caps. That's it.
Stop complaining, people. Don't complain that they cost so much. It's a rare item. If you want to have the best gear while it's the best, you're going to have to pay the price.

A 2004 Corvette isn't worth $60k today. Nor even half that. But when they were released, plenty of people paid that. People buying it knew 2 things: that they'll continially be worth less over time; and despite that, they'll get to have one of the most badass sports cars on the roads for a year before the next year's.

(This isn't directed at you instant. Just branching off our theoretical conversation on the future of mythic. As well as me being a little annoyed with this topic coming up YET AGAIN, when it's financially a HORRIBLE idea for sts to do.)

[Sephiroth143]

My opinion, stick to lvl 36 armor n helm for lvl 41 expansion, but introduce lvl 41 mythic weapons, rings (each different classes) & amulets (each different classes as usual) so it wont op n to those who spent plats on gettin helm n armor full grand gemmed wont feel upset regrettin & still wanna play tis game. No foul play here, juz puttin up my suggestion to sts. If u so nded to upgrade armor n helm, at least dont make the full grand gemmed be lost, only normal gems lost so people at least happier lookin forward to the next expansion. Put up some work on tis sts, we pay ur bills so at least do some adjustment on tat or else stick to the above opinion. Thks.

[VanRah]

Alright if the problem here is that every rich player has a myth and if myths will be upgradable next season they won't farm for it and new season gears would be worthless we can:

1)
Give the new season gears better stats than current myth and leave the mythic NOT upgradeable for a very long time (6-7Weeks).
But this is a temporary solution sooner or later we will be back here after the sixth week discussing.

2)Let myth and only myth gears be obtainable from new expansion map after following a outrageous questline. Half or 3/4 of the quest is used for upgrading the mythic gear , the rest of the quest will grant a non tradeable mythic gear to the non mythic player.

The best suggestion i have seen so far is of Energizeric:


www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?114281

That solution is only good for plat user players...
The ones with no plat can't use elixirs...
Furthermore being an elite dungeon the players with mythic gear will still be advataged while the poor pink players will end up giving up to redoing the dungeon...
It's a solution only for the minority of the rich players.
So I'm not for it.
Making new arcane n mythic items dropping from bosses/mobs is a good idea though.

Doesn't matter what you call it, all you'll be doing is shifting everything up one level. Prices will settle and be the same, and then in 3 months you'll be complaining that you need arcane gear to compete in PvP.

Your solution is like if the government prints more money to help the economy become richer. All that happens is inflation.

If u make a new mythic gear wouldn't it still be the same? U'll still need that new mythic gear to compete in pvp.
The only difference that will be there introducing the new arcane gear n upgrading the old mythic gear will be that, even if the arcane gear will be the best one both for pve n pvp, players with the mythic gear will still be able to keep up somehow with the arcane players.
Something that can't be done now as the pink geared player can't have any chance vs a mythic geared player.
About the economy of AL I think u can't reckon anything.
I think that the players that now are mythic/full mythic geared will be happy to have the new arcane gear to work for, while the fact that the old mythic gear is still worth having (and selling!), will make happy also the players that never had it n have been working so hard to try getting it. No effort will be wasted.

[Anarchist]

That solution is only good for plat user players...
The ones with no plat can't use elixirs...
Furthermore being an elite dungeon the players with mythic gear will still be advataged while the poor pink players will end up giving up to redoing the dungeon...
It's a solution only for the minority of the rich players.
So I'm not for it.
Making new arcane n mythic items dropping from bosses/mobs is a good idea though.

You can use Lep instead of a elixir.
I see legendary gear players farming elite shuyal all day.(Having a tarlok will be extra fine)
If you give up redoing the dungeon over and over (this is called farming) that means you don't want the mythic gear and it's your fault.
Richness is not involved it's pure luck just like looting a Arch Pylon of brutality instead of fatality, Pure Luck.
You don't drop the arcane or myths from boss this will kill the market and overflood it.

Keep in mind you have to give incentives for people to farm while keeping:
the myth market up.
the legendary market up.

The myths and arcane must be untradeable and very hard to get.

[Chaim Nail]

I have the upgraded mythic armor+helm for my warrior, which was achieved through a bit of luck getting the armor from a crate and lots and lots of play. It's nice but what worries me is that there will be level 41 legendaries that'll surpass my level 36 mythics, just look a how close the best level 36 Tarloks are.

What reasurrance can STS give us that our level 36 mythics will still be better than the best level 41 legendaries?

Despite making quite a bit of gold from selling crates last weekend I won't be spending it on upgrading my ring or amulet to mythic because I'd have to spend millions just for a slight stat increase, on mythic items that are level 31 at best, next seasons best legendaries will almost certainly surpass them.

[fritzce]

No arcane gear, arcane is already very op. Imagine: Arcane helm, weapon, arcane body. Rogues with 2k armor+, 700 damage and 4k+ hp?

agree, i'll effin' quit right away if an arcane armor, helm or accessories are introduced. -_-

[fritzce]

The myths and arcane must be untradeable and very hard to get.

if myths and arcanes must be untradeable, then what should i do with my myths after (if ever) i got the new best gears in future expansions?

[Chaim Nail]

if myths and arcanes must be untradeable, then what should i do with my myths after (if ever) i got the new best gears in future expansions?

All of us who upgraded our mythic armor+helm are stuck with them, they've become untradeable, so the only things left to do with them in the future is:

1) Stash em.
2) Liquidate em.
3) Wear them about town to show how awesome you once were

[Kostral]

if myths and arcanes must be untradeable, then what should i do with my myths after (if ever) i got the new best gears in future expansions?

Thats the most important question that every Myth/Arcane stuff owner may ask them self...

be sure i m curious to...

[fritzce]

All of us who upgraded our mythic armor+helm are stuck with them, they've become untradeable, so the only things left to do with them in the future is:

1) Stash em.
2) Liquidate em.
3) Wear them about town to show how awesome you once were

i spent money for that and it will only get rotten in my stash or just to liquidate them? lol. wearing them is one thing, but where's the benefit in wearing it just to show off?

[Hoardseeker]

Yea lunar must be upgraded...
my normal tarlok heart[lv35][normal gemmed[2]] gives +1 than lunar![ungemmed]

[cloud17h]

A big problem is the ap (400 just for 1 season)...for the amulets and rings, new ones its better because we need more variety, and more weapons

[sitiii]

new expansion idea with new powerful arcane gear,
oh man, its make very very very huge distance between arcane user and legendary user

please not new weapon, just new pet and new quest

hopefullly STS read this

[Zuzeq]

I think the better move would to release new lvl 41 ones in crates and Elite Golden whatever chest/boxes.

[Striderevil]

Upgrading mythics is a fine proposition why? Simply because its not as prevalent and is still rare. After 3 seasons the mythic items are still selling anywhere between 2-5 mill showing that there is very much a demand and many who have opened 300+ crates haven't been lucky in getting anything.

Even now how many upgraded mythic lvl 36 geared items are for sale? I'll tell you none.

All the devs have to do is release a rare gem whose droprate is equivalent to a mythic item that can help craft lvl 41 upgraded armor. They can even release 3 rare gems which are specific for that class to upgrade their armor and helm. The upgrade can also only be performed upon completing a quest. That should make it fair enough. New pendants and amulets can be released for mythic or arcane gear.

Because arcane is so ridiculously rare, these item should be allowed to be upgraded after maybe obtaining an arcane gem.

If anyone thinks that after releasing arcane weapons and pets that no equivalent arcane armor will be released is living in la la land. Even now the arcane weapons are ridiculously expensive and are as rare as ever.

[Chaim Nail]

Even now how many upgraded mythic lvl 36 geared items are for sale? I'll tell you none.

That'll be because nobody can sell upgraded mythic armor+helm, they become untradeable after upgrading.

I like the idea of upgrading through high powered gems, but hope it wouldn't be implimented in the same way as getting a grand gem as that's ridiculously wasteful in terms of time & gems. Perhaps some big (and not too easy) quest to acquire mythic armor upgrade gems?

i spent money for that and it will only get rotten in my stash or just to liquidate them? lol. wearing them is one thing, but where's the benefit in wearing it just to show off?

I knew when upgrading my mythic armour+helm that I wouldn't be able to trade them afterwards, which was ok with me because I'd previously seen a hammer that cost me 500,000 gold drop to 1/10 the price when the new expansion came into play. Almost every item in the game has a shelf-life (apart from vanities, and pets to a certain degree), it's the game's natural order of things, if new items weren't introduced then the whole game would become quite stagnant.

[plutod]

Sts this is what u do..........listen carefully. First keep those mythic item
But introduce the lvl cap gears but make it so that you need lvl 36 gear acquired
To equip the new capped gear(basically acquire both new and old to wear new items.)
As for mythic armor and helm, I say you introduce capped armor and helm
And make it better than lvl 36 upgraded. As for lvl 36 armor and helm u have too do some huge
Quest a little more difficult than last one to make it equal the new armor and helm that u just introduced in the expansion.
Also to make many people happy and excited to get these you should make both armors look
(excuse my language)so ****ing awesome.

[becky_xil]

So I was thinking that instead of coming out with entirely new mythic accessories why doesn't sts just create an upgrade quest like they did for the armors to make them lvl 36? It could follow the same formula as the armors in that you would have to speak to an NPC and then do some crazy long quest to obtain shards or something.

I bring this up cause I know a lot of capped players who have mentioned that they would love a new difficult quest at end game, and by upgrading these two items to lvl 36 it would make for an entertaining and worthy quest line to keep them busy and power up at the same time.

So for example, the Blood Ruby could be upgraded to something like "The Blood Heart of Shuyal" and the pendants could be something like, "The Amulet of Disaster - The Stellar Pendant - Claw of Fenrir" -- and to make it more interesting they could also create a cool new particle effect for the necklaces to denote the class it belongs to like they did with archon rings.

I dunno, just a thought considering that these items have been around for a while and we could use something else to look forward to and build upon for these slightly outdated mythics.

Any thoughts?

Bad idea but.. if devs release new ring and pendant like arcane stuff.. it is possible then.. upgraded mythic ring and pendant vs arcane..

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[fritzce]

Because arcane is so ridiculously rare, these item should be allowed to be upgraded after maybe obtaining an arcane gem.

If anyone thinks that after releasing arcane weapons and pets that no equivalent arcane armor will be released is living in la la land. Even now the arcane weapons are ridiculously expensive and are as rare as ever.

nah, there are lots of arcane users out there in lvl 36 pvp, even in towns. it just hurts that you need a team with a good geared warrior to clash with `em. :/