Or they could make it upgradable and introduce new arcane gear. For people to find reason for farming,merching,opening crates..
Or they could make it upgradable and introduce new arcane gear. For people to find reason for farming,merching,opening crates..
agree with u meguyOriginally Posted by Meguy
This game is full of merchants, lol the only reason why you do not want the items to be upgradable is you want the level 41 mythical to be tradeable. Lol that is how people get easy Midas achievement here. You are well aware that it will be available on lock crates and this level 41 will cost much on the following monthsnah it's not about game play anymore lol because upgrading can be made a lot harder and it can be made untradeable if must. Hard for those who are old player and easier for new players to achieve good gears. Old players do not play anymore, you just play the merchant game like this and you love new items period to take advantage of it. If AL makes the gear upgreadable then AL market will be more stable, and all players will be happy not just the old players but also the new ones.
Yes, lots of people open up lots of crates.
And the rate of getting a mythic item is ridiculously low--so low that it's not uncommon of hearing about people who have opened over a thousand and came up empty handed.
The rate and number of people opening is fine. HOWEVER, the issue is that these same items have been dropping season after season after season. "The Hero of Legend" shouldn't be a title everyone is strutting around with...
If we continue to keep the same original lvl 26 helm and 31 armor, it will get to the point that nobody will want to open a crate for mythic gear. The only reason to open would be an arcane item, which is WAY lower than the chances of mythics already are set to; which will leave people going, "ugh! I got a freakin' worthless mythic armor..."People already get bummed out when they get a mythic amulet. In fact, the price of the mythic helm and armor are so low already that it's way better of an option to buy them for gold instead of spending platinum to keep opening an endless number of crates. The price of a mythic item should be nowhere near the price of a legendary piece of gear; but if the mythic helm and armor becomes upgradeable yet again, it'll continue to more abundant and cheaper.
Only those who risk going past the edge will find out how far they can go.
I think these mythic items should be upgradable but NOT tradable, and the upgrade run should be quite difficult and take MUCH time, so that new players are affordable(for them a mythic can cost all their gold), but those who want 41 mythic so badly can also find them inside locked instantly or buy from merchants,so most players are able to stay, then this game will be more stable.
I agreeThis game is full of merchants, lol the only reason why you do not want the items to be upgradable is you want the level 41 mythical to be tradeable. Lol that is how people get easy Midas achievement here. You are well aware that it will be available on lock crates and this level 41 will cost much on the following months
There are very few people who effectively merchant gear for a good profit. It was doable in the past, but these days...not so much. There have been dozens of threads on this in recent times about the market being unfriendly.This game is full of merchants, lol the only reason why you do not want the items to be upgradable is you want the level 41 mythical to be tradeable. Lol that is how people get easy Midas achievement here. You are well aware that it will be available on lock crates and this level 41 will cost much on the following months
Virtually no one merchs their way to the Midas Touch--very few can even reach the Goldfinger one. What happens for that achievement is that a lot of people pool their gold to hit 100 million, pass it around so that each person gets the title, and then return the gold back to each other.
If the gear becomes upgradeable, yes...it'll keep the market stable; HOWEVER, it'll be in a stable, continual downward spiral. The price of mythic gear will be absurdly low, and everything else will become worthless. The system of ugprading gear can only last for so long, and it needs to end.
Releasing new mythic items each season is GREAT for the economy in AL. It makes it so that the market can't become flooded with the same top item. And the new mythic will be very expensive, meaning VERY VERY VERY few people will be able to have a lot of them. And the owners own them, knowing that they will go down in value when next season is released with new ones. And a person will be able to kick butt in the a current season still using their previous season gear (remember: a lvl 36 mythic item is better than a lvl 41 legendary item). This means at the 41 cap a lot of people will be using lvl 36 mythic and lvl 41 legendary items, while very few have the lvl 41 mythic items. This means that people in the game will have similar stats for once, rather then a full mythic players blowing the pants off a non-mythic user. Not just this, but elite legendary gear then becomes valuable and worth farming for as many won't be able to afford that rare and expensive lvl 41 mythic gear.
Sounds pretty awesome, right? But wait! There's more! Think what will happen during the next season/level cap...!
When the lvl 46 cap comes out, this will mean that most people will be using the elite level 46 legendary gear and lvl 41 mythic items--along with a very small number having the new lvl 46 mythic items. Why is this better than the previous season? Well, during the lvl 41 cap, A LOT of people started the season off with the lvl 36 mythic items, which were still better than the lvl 41 elite legendary gear. When lvl 46 is out, lvl 41 mythic gear will still be out; however, remember that there weren't very many people who had the lvl 41 mythic gear. What does this mean? Many more people will need/want the lvl 46 elite legendary gear. This means that the price of this gear will be even better. It'll be VERY worth it to farm for items--it'll be nicely profitable.
And with there being so few fully mythic players, there won't be that old ugly gap between mythic and non-mythic users, as there will be few mythic players around--and very, very few people who are using multiple current season mythic items. And any person who is using full lvl 46 mythic items...they likely won't have enough gold to have full lvl 51 mythic items.
Boom! There you guys have it.
People will be able to enjoy playing the game by farming AND making gold.
No longer will merching be the only way to make gold.
The economy will be stabilize quite quickly.
Stop thinking about just RIGHT NOW and wanting your old gear upgraded to a higher level.
Only those who risk going past the edge will find out how far they can go.
Merchers and lock openers dream is having the locked crate drop the new Lv41 mythic set and current Lv36 myths become twink stuff.
Most of them come out hiding their real intentions with the excuse of boring gameplay but all most of them want is to be able to have things others can't acheive and take advantage of this making money out of it.
If they really cared about the pve part of the game as they said, crate openers and bad merchers would accept the fact Lv36 myths can be upgraded to Lv41 (remaining untradeable) by a very very very difficult quest where you have to farm like crazy, but they will never accept it this way cause it will give midclass players that don't open lockeds a slight chance of having the level 41 myths without being forced to buy it from them at a over priced amount.
The rich want to be richer.
This is the truth behind this issue.
Last edited by Anarchist; 01-15-2014 at 03:46 AM.
Honestly this is why I've only invested in legendary gear while playing. I knew it wouldn't be the best forever and I've had no problems with buying new legendary gear when the old becomes outdated since its only a few hundred thousand for it. And I've thought that since the beginning of the season. Anyone that waited till the end of the season to buy mythic armor just made a poor decision thinking it would be the best for next season also.
Last edited by Wutzgood; 01-15-2014 at 08:28 AM. Reason: Add on
It really does boil down to those who prefer to take the short cut by opening crates to obtain their riches want to have new mythic gear available so they sell their freshly looted items to the top gold players for obscene amounts of gold knowing full well that they're the ones who will want it quick no matter what the price. The rest of us, however, who don't take that option have to farm the new elite maps like dogs for the first few weeks hoping to sell the new legendary gear at good prices while they're high and before they flood the market.
Some of the farmers will profit nicely at the beginning, and then watch as the new legendary items crash as everyone and their mother will be running elites. Meanwhile, crate openers will continue throw their wallets at the game to loot the new mythic items worth millions for a much longer period of time. So in the end who are the ones who will benefit the most if there are no upgrade options for the current mythic armors? Spenders.
Which is fine since that's pretty much the way the economy of AL works, but it shouldn't be a 'bad decision' to buy the top gear no matter what time you start playing.
A good solution would be to have an lengthy upgrade quest for the armor and helm (no freebies on the armor like last time) for those who have the current upgraded mythic armors, while discontinuing the current base model set and putting new looking base ones in crates for the spenders so they have something new to sell off and for people to be interested in buying.
At least this way those of us who took the time to earn our mythic set will still have something to work towards without having to drop insane amounts of gold for the new stuff after the expansion release, and it wouldn't negatively impact the market cause there will be a high demand for newly modeled base mythic armors among new or current players who don't have them.
As far as the accessories go, I wouldn't really care if these weren't upgradeable since they're meant to be a bit more of a luxury item, since after all they are 'accessories' -- but I'll be honest and say if the armors are going to be replaced entirely I won't be too happy, it was an achievement for crying out lout.
Last edited by Sorcerie; 01-15-2014 at 10:55 AM.
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Nowday.. untrable item is like a trend or something in mmorpg.. why is that? benefits? If you want another item for another char you need to start over again.. like now armor and helm.. if you wanna make another end game char with mythic armor and helm.. you need to buy a new one rather then trading.. is good business but I don't like it
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Well, old players or new doesn't change the fact that they've been around too long. If you spent tons of gold on older gear near the end of an expansion, why should everyone else suffer for it?
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I guess everybody has a magic ball for predicting end of expansions.
Everyone has the same magic 8 ball
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Is it really suffering to consider an alternative for the casual player who spent months farming and saving their gold and were only able to buy their set near the end of a season no matter how long they've been available? I don't think so. It's better than pissing in their face by coming out with all new set and telling them to start from scratch, imo.
Last edited by Sorcerie; 01-15-2014 at 01:23 PM.
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Well, I don't like that people will come up short. Let me set that straight. But let me ask you this... what's worse?
New players saving up money and buying the mythics now (at their prices) near the end of the season and losing out... OR
Players saving the money and buying them around the middle of last season for 8M per armor, 4-6M weapon, 3-5M helmet then having a double odds mythic weekend come in and cut those prices by 75%?
In the end, buying anything in this game is risky. And if STS doesn't nip these mythics in the bud right now, then it will be perpetual upgrading. There are ALWAYS new players meaning this will always be a problem if they don't end it now. Just keep in mind. A LOT of the players that want these items to be retired because they are tired of them are the same players that were screwed much harder than you will be.
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i don't like the ''upgrades'' but im not going to play 6 month to use a mytic set again only for 1 month (bcus a new expansion come after this)
im just say make items in drop is the best way to elimitad the bored of game.
and theys can put same items in ''locked or another special box'' obvisuly not with a high drop rate.
This post to the fullest.
When I bought my mythic set, it was 10m for the armor, 3m for the helm, 3m for the bow, 10m for the ring, 8m for the amulet. I have not bought them or sold them since. So, lets do some math? 34m for the set?
What can you buy a set for these days? 2.5m for the armor, 2m for the helm, 3m for the ring, 1m for the amulet, 4m for the bow. This totals out at 12.5m? That's a 63% price reduction!
So, for around 1/3 of the price, you can get 1/3 of the time using it. I'd say that's a fair trade off.
The L36 mythics will still be a damn good set next expansion, so just enjoy them while you can and quit complaining for an upgrade. Do you see the people who spent 34m on the items complaining because the price dropped? Keep in mind that this wasn't even the peak. At one point, mythic armor was worth 15-17m and helm was worth 4-5m.
Sorry, but I am going to say to quit complaining and just work up to the next campaign gear. I for sure will not be able to gear myself out next expansion without putting some serious effort in. I'm okay with that fact, because it means there's more stuff for me to do in the game.
If y'all wish to play a standstill game where the best gear is still the best gear for over a year and holds value, you should try PL.
Last edited by Zeus; 01-15-2014 at 01:48 PM.
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The trade off there is that the old player had much longer to enjoy it and it only affected them when the prices dropped after a promotion where everyone tried to bank off the double odds and the result was a flooded mythic market.
Does that suck? Yes it does - but who's had longer to amass more gold during those 2 seasons time with each new expansion and new gear that became available? The same ones who are saying they're sick of seeing them. And let's be real here, you and i both know they have more significantly more gold to work with when the new stuff comes out while the other players who only just obtained them are stuck starting from scratch making all that hard earned gear worthless a month or two down the road.
I'm not saying there doesn't need to be new stuff to earn, I'm all for that. I'm just saying there needs to be options for both the new and old players where neither looses out completely.
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That option exists, Sirulian. The L36 mythics will still be as good or better than the legendary gear next expansion. There's no need to upgrade something that will still be the best next campaign.
I say this while I have dumped 34m into the gear and have a relatively small 6m gold to prepare for next season.
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We'll wait and see on that, because I don't get how legendary gear 5 lvls up won't be better than the current lvl 36 mythics, unless you're rocking exceptional gems in everything you own. And even that's a stretch considering that the most expensive tarlock sets for each class are already competing in certain stats with the upgraded mythic armors. Five more levels could turn the difference into a chasm.
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