what really irritates about merchers

[dwellzz]

Although i merch , i hate when people pm me for price of my item they say "lol no one will buy" then they offer some rediculous low price...

So im kind of writing this to let newer players know not to believe merchers they just say stuff to turn things in they favor... Like merchers saying jester will drop in price. They say it to merch off you n trick you

Like really? These are the same people who will laugh at you for offering what they just offered you.

Like if hammerjaw is 7.5 n im sellin 7m
Some idiot will say "lol it will never sell" and then offer me 6m...
But if i vice versa that same person will sell hammerjaw 7.5m i offer 6m he will call me noob.

So to sum it up when a full mythic arcane players wants your items and he tries to make you feel noob saying you overpricing your items just ignore them because they will sell it higher.

[Rare]

I wish for a capped listing fee in cs. Something like 100k. Then people would actually LIST items there. Then merchs and shady lowballers (not all merchs) wouldnt control the economy and so many people wouldnt be taken advantage of all the time.

[Anarchist]

It is buisness.

[Rare]

It is buisness.

Actually, for us players its quite the opposite.

[Bless]

5% for CS listing is a lot. 2% to 4% would at least be better for players, and we wouldn't need to use these shady tricks to lull innocent players for profits and instead list items directly in CS...

[Rare]

5% for CS listing is a lot. 2% to 4% would at least be better for players, and we wouldn't need to use these shady tricks to lull innocent players for profits and instead list items directly in CS...

Exactly

[Zeus]

I could also say the same thing for expecting obscene prices like 26m for a vanity and wondering why the rich won't pay. O_O

[Rare]

I could also say the same thing for expecting obscene prices like 26m for a vanity and wondering why the rich won't pay. O_O

That's true. If there was a better system in CS, it would be MUCH easier to gauge what the "true" market value is.

Rather than this

"its worth this much"
"i got an offer for this much"
"it will never sell for that much"
"so and so is selling for this much"

I dont think anything STG will do can change low ballers and i dont think people who dont know to avoid low ballers log in to forums

The idea of making auction listing fee smaller for the more expensive items seems logical to me, seems weird to lose 100k's or millions over listing fees.

Exactly. Take this for example. Singe egg. What's the "REAL" price for this? Nobody knows. One day someone buys for 35M, another day, 25M. By capping the CS listing fee (some decently high value), it will encourage people to list these items rather than walking around town gossiping and trying to sell at some artificial value.

If there are 25 listed in CS, you can reasonably assume the market value is at or below the lowest value. If there is 1 or none... what do you do? You have to go by what people say. This creates a very unstable market with huge fluctuations in item values.

For items over 3m (for example) most people are not going to list these in cs because of:

1) the very high cost of listing fees
2) listing runs a high risk of losing your listing fee because you really have no idea of the actual value of an item

Hence the reason there are so few items at this price.

[bossqsorc]

I could also say the same thing for expecting obscene prices like 26m for a vanity and wondering why the rich won't pay. O_O

Actually, 26m Jester vanity was overpriced too Zeus XD

I Want Platinum! ♥

[Zeus]

Actually, 26m Jester vanity was overpriced too Zeus XD

I Want Platinum! ♥

I know it was, that was my point, lol. I personally sold mine for 17.5m. I'm a merch, yes, but I like giving people good deals and not ripping them off entirely.

[bossqsorc]

I know it was, that was my point, lol. I personally sold mine for 17.5m. I'm a merch, yes, but I like giving people good deals and not ripping them off entirely.

If i have jester don't care what they offers 11-15m i just need hammerjaw and done lawl.

I Want Platinum! ♥

[dwellzz]

Its a lame buisness when you harass newer players and sike them out they items

And aedenos thts good idea somthin like o&c i see

[Zeus]

Its a lame buisness when you harass newer players and sike them out they items

And aedenos thts good idea somthin like o&c i see

I'm not that type of merch, please don't mix me with them.

[Bless]

But, Zeus has a point. We are driving prices up. It's the merchants that rise item value to sky high prices.

[matanofx]

Guys, its just human nature, there will be people with a decent conscious who wouldnt try to trick others to get items for a low price

And there will ALWAYS be those who are a bit lower on the personality scale and will try to trick other players to get what they want

I dont think anything STG will do can change low ballers and i dont think people who dont know to avoid low ballers log in to forums

The idea of making auction listing fee smaller for the more expensive items seems logical to me, seems weird to lose 100k's or millions over listing fees.

[dwellzz]

I could also say the same thing for expecting obscene prices like 26m for a vanity and wondering why the rich won't pay. O_O

If you want you will pay i have offers every where ranging18-22m gold n i got item/gold offers also...sooo???

Did yu look at your offers??
Even skeu a not so advanced mercher/player laughed even he see your offer is a complete joke .like your slapping me in the face.
Oh and even someone else commented on your offer lol

So you cant compare.

P.s this thread wasnt directed at you in general to let the newer people not be so gullible

[Zeus]

If you want you will pay i have offers every where ranging18-22m gold n i got item/gold offers also...sooo???

Did yu look at your offers??
Even skeu a not so advanced mercher/player laughed even he see your offer is a complete joke .like your slapping me in the face.
Oh and even someone else commented on your offer lol

So you cant compare.

P.s this thread wasnt directed at you in general to let the newer people not be so gullible

I'm just giving example by example.

Honestly, I didn't really want it - it was more of something to start you off. Did I expect to get it? No. If I wanted it, I would have to sell off investments which doesn't make sense to me as I am expecting more turnover on them. Also, as I stated in your thread, I expected you to counter with a gold offer.

However, what is also just as bad is what I stated where people are expecting obscene prices. Right now, if you are looking at the offers - it is mainly merchants passing the sets to merchants, each merchant hoping that they will make profit on it. Yes, there are a few who want it for collection purposes, but most have bought the sets for 10-15m when they were initially released and then doubled the price.

Lastly, judging from the contest winners, you didn't win the set. So, I am guessing that you bought it from someone for much cheaper and now are using the same tactics I just described? The reason you've made this thread is because you're expecting more return on your jester vanity than what you bought it for.

Cry me a river, this thread is purely hypocritical.

[dwellzz]

Guys, its just human nature, there will be people with a decent conscious who wouldnt try to trick others to get items for a low price

And there will ALWAYS be those who are a bit lower on the personality scale and will try to trick other players to get what they want

I dont think anything STG will do can change low ballers and i dont think people who dont know to avoid low ballers log in to forums

The idea of making auction listing fee smaller for the more expensive items seems logical to me, seems weird to lose 100k's or millions over listing fees.

Matan i kno by human nature we tricky
Jus raising awarness for newer people.

And yea i guess listing fees need a fix, items r getting expensive like arlor hats cost 150k to list

[Ventus]

Matan i kno by human nature we tricky
Jus raising awarness for newer people.

And yea i guess listing fees need a fix, items r getting expensive like arlor hats cost 150k to list

the reason they made it so high to list higher items is because people start cutting eachother repeatedly in a rush to sell there item. oh no he cut me by 1 gold. better take mine out and re put it in costing 50-100k and cut him by 1 gold aswell! that will show him ! ._.

[matanofx]

Ventus- when you think about what you said, its a double edge sword not a solution to anything.

dwellzz- read the 3rd line of my previous comment here. I seriously doubt youre raising awareness tho i wish you were.