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    Default Does Scorch need a change?

    I am trying to convince myself to like this pet that I bought in excitement as soon as it came because it was so cute. I just cant find out what about him would make me like and use him more. I find myself using Malison and Haze more than I use him. I like Malison's str and Haze's passive ability more than Scorch's, and perhaps that is why. And why should it be so? He is a mythic pet, that people spent 250 plats for and why should he not be better than legendaries?

    Scorch''s only saving-grace trait is supposedly its Arcane Ability shield and this shield would have been fine if it did shield against damage until it wore off but no. It gives me a bit of damage reduction but is that amount of damage reduction really useful in the face of the damage we get in a clash? The shield lasts for mere 1-2-3 seconds in a fight and during that apparently awesome state of being "shielded" under a lovely golden bubble, the truth is that I still take damage. So this shield looks good on paper but isnt really a big deal.

    What do people think about Scorch's passive ability? Personally, it dampens my spirit to see his very ordinary passive ability. I dont understand why a mythic pet was given a Guapo-like passive ability. A ranged attack would have been better, imo.

    Everyday I do try to use Scorch and find ways of liking him, but I feel my plats remain wasted if he is not modified and made better than legendary pets. Currently there are a lot of legendary pets that most people would choose over Scorch. *For instance, lets compare Scorch costing 250 plat with Shadowlurk costing 90 plat.*

    Scorch *Mythic* - 20 primary stats, 12 % crit, 160 mana, mana regen with a buggy AA shield that still enables the user to take damage while it is on AND the very negligible passive ability akin to Guapo's.

    Shadowlurk *Legendary* - 20 primary stats, 20% crit and 20% damage with AA activated, 100 mana and a ranged attack that damages 3 enemies causing "triple damage".

    This makes the meaning of 'Legendary' and 'Mythic' seem like a joke.. I wonder who approved these stats while these pets were being designed. Scorch definitely needs a change/buff for it to be a MYTHIC pet.

    [ Also, I would like to request devs to please include / show Arcane Ability and Passive Ability information of pets on the pet-list in the stable so that buyers know what they are getting before putting in their plats blindly. ]
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    Agree. They need to change Scorch AA a little bit to be compatible with Warrior or others. Having a shield that only last for less than 1 second is not a good thing to be with.
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    Totally agree. If it wasn't for his speed he wouldn't be used at all, my personal opinion.
    Shield is useless. If it showed in the list his arcane ability it would still make people buy it, shield sounds awesome , as a matter of fact it sound more op than it actually is.
    Thank you for posting this , I hope they do something about it.

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    They should make scroch AA that it reduces 50% damage for 6 secs... this wouldnt be op in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orageunas View Post
    They should make scroch AA that it reduces 50% damage for 6 secs... this wouldnt be op in my opinion.
    I like this suggestion more than its actual ability. However, I would suggest making its ability something along the lines of +MAX HP for 6-8 seconds like at lvl41 you get +1550HP for 6 seconds, which to me is more useful as a damage buffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy:1533355
    Quote Originally Posted by Orageunas View Post
    They should make scroch AA that it reduces 50% damage for 6 secs... this wouldnt be op in my opinion.
    I like this suggestion more than its actual ability. However, I would suggest making its ability something along the lines of +MAX HP for 6-8 seconds like at lvl41 you get +1550HP for 6 seconds, which to me is more useful as a damage buffer.
    Ill take either one. The current AA is flashy but useless.

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    It needs damage. A pet without % damage is second-rate these days.
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    Agree, the need to at minimum fix it's shielding to what it was originally stated to be by a Dev. As it is, then shield is weak and doesn't even fully protect when on.
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    See, this is why "Devs" shouldn't reveal the stat's to players until after the update!

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    Now that scorches passive received the armor reduction buff at lvl 40 he's much more useful compared to his lvl 30 self. I use him during boss fights where he's only got one target to worry about and the speed helps my warrior get out of danger while giving squishes that lil extra help with the shield.

    He's still a marginal mythic pet at best though. He either needs to do a bit more with his happiness bonus (damage reduction or Dodge) or do more with his arcane (stronger party buffs or better shield).

    As for haze and shadowlurk, they are definitely worth the 90 plat along with their other 90 plat counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hectororius View Post
    Now that scorches passive received the armor reduction buff at lvl 40 he's much more useful compared to his lvl 30 self. I use him during boss fights where he's only got one target to worry about and the speed helps my warrior get out of danger while giving squishes that lil extra help with the shield.

    He's still a marginal mythic pet at best though. He either needs to do a bit more with his happiness bonus (damage reduction or Dodge) or do more with his arcane (stronger party buffs or better shield).

    As for haze and shadowlurk, they are definitely worth the 90 plat along with their other 90 plat counterparts.
    Still, Scorch's shielding should work as originally stated!
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    Scorch AA completely useless in new elites :3

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    totally agree with u Zynzyn i think scroch need a little change about his AA or maybe his STATS cuse his shields is useless even on pvp maps the only dmg u can reduced its a normal atack or perhabs just one skill i think he need a little BUFF fromSTS i hope STS listen this cuse, 250 plats on him its kinda waste of plats =(

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    What shield? R u talking about that sexy golden bubble :3 .it looks gud.i use that when i m bored.

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    Agree, maybe like 5 seconds absorption rather than damage taken
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    Someone said the shield is worth like one and half health pots.. hehe. Total waste in elites as a pet.

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    Scorch would be fine as Legendary. But it's not Legendary. It's Mythic.

    I understand not wanting to make a 250 plat pet OP, but seeing how fast the shield breaks, the lack of %damage, and the lack of multiple stats, it really does need a strong buff. Right now, TBH, I feel like Malison is a better pet, and that's just not right.

    Here are some suggestions to make Scorch viable, but not OP.

    Either:

    A) rework the arcane ability to provide a minimum period of invulnerability to the pet owner (maybe 2 seconds), the way other shields do.
    B) +25 to all stats instead of +20 primary and 180 mana (not asking for much here)
    C) +8% damage

    With any of these changes, it would still be pretty crappy, but considerably less crappy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenvy View Post
    Scorch would be fine as Legendary. But it's not Legendary. It's Mythic.

    I understand not wanting to make a 250 plat pet OP, but seeing how fast the shield breaks, the lack of %damage, and the lack of multiple stats, it really does need a strong buff. Right now, TBH, I feel like Malison is a better pet, and that's just not right.

    Here are some suggestions to make Scorch viable, but not OP.

    Either:

    A) rework the arcane ability to provide a minimum period of invulnerability to the pet owner (maybe 2 seconds), the way other shields do.
    B) +25 to all stats instead of +20 primary and 180 mana (not asking for much here)
    C) +8% damage

    With any of these changes, it would still be pretty crappy, but considerably less crappy.
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    I always try to like him but I cant.. many legendaries pets still better over scorch. So I leave him at lvl 33 and never use him anymore except as an alt to my whim for run only in battlefield direct to the boss.. Yeah I hope this 250 plats mythic pet not make me disappointed but it did. Even Shadowlurk seems better than this pet
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    Shield needs to be improved. I hope STS have something to say
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