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    Angry This Is Not Fair...

    The new weapons are great for warriors now half mythic warrior can kill a full mythic rouge so fast
    cause there new weapons gives a great stats for them unlike the new legendery weapons for rouges which is bad mostly useless

    why rouges always gets bad items ??
    :/ i thinks this should be solved

    how about magmatic bow ? a bit balance is needed here

    am i wrong ?

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    This one's too easy. But I'll be watching this thread. I predict good things.

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    Patience Grasshopper...

    Remember that this is the first season of the Staggered Gear Releases. It is not a coincidence that the Magmatic helm and armor are tanking items. When Tindirin elites were first released, they were tough maps to run, and everyone complained. In response, these maps were nerfed, but people still complained. STS then boosted the armor values across the board, and yet people still complain?

    And, as far as the weaponry, Magmatic Blades of Brutality have as much damage as Expedition Bow's of Potency. Not much to complain about there. If you are struggling, then either your party is horrible, or your tactics need refining. I spent part of my day this morning in TDM, which is extremely rare for me, since I am a pure PvE build, yet I did quite well against several Mythic Warriors (12 kills, 3 deaths in my first match), considering I don't have Medic and I sacrificed Crit for a more well rounded build. I don't own any Arcanes (pet or gear), I use a crate bow, and am still rolling with lv36 rings and amulets.

    As has been the case for two seasons now, you can't just barge into a group of tanks and expect to knock them all flat. PvP is a team based pastime, not a solo gig. You simply don't have the HP or armor to go toe-to-toe with a tank, so you have to be able to kite, stun, drop packs and attack strategically. The days of being successful as a button mashing Rogue are well behind us.

    I'm sure that the next wave of the Staggered Release will grant us something better than what we have, but until then, have some patience and try not to get so angry that you don't have a 900 DMG stat, and you can't one hit Tanks with Rendtail rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaker Ida View Post
    The new weapons are great for warriors now half mythic warrior can kill a full mythic rouge so fast
    cause there new weapons gives a great stats for them unlike the new legendery weapons for rouges which is bad mostly useless

    why rouges always gets bad items ??
    :/ i thinks this should be solved

    how about magmatic bow ? a bit balance is needed here

    am i wrong ?
    Magmatic blade is for pve..not PVP!
    What about you use exp bow in pvp then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaker Ida View Post
    The new weapons are great for warriors now half mythic warrior can kill a full mythic rouge so fast
    cause there new weapons gives a great stats for them unlike the new legendery weapons for rouges which is bad mostly useless

    why rouges always gets bad items ??
    :/ i thinks this should be solved

    how about magmatic bow ? a bit balance is needed here

    am i wrong ?

    Is this a troll thread?

    Expedition bow is extremely high damage, and magmatic blades are better than the 36 mythic ones. The magmatic claymore is NOT better than the 36 glaive for warrior, nor is the mage totem better than the 36 mythic mage staff. I know because I have all three (of the magmatics)
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    are u sure its a pve balde not a pvp ? cause i think its great for pvp and i saw that really well
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeusblade View Post
    Magmatic blade is for pve..not PVP!
    What about you use exp bow in pvp then?

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    i have seen warrior with 400+damege using the new blades and the buff they get is much better that the nothing we have and i play with a great tactic so i think baldes are much better than expedtion of potencey that we have or daggers
    i will wait as u said
    and i am not asking to 1 hit a tank i am asking to upgrade our items or downgrade theres
    pvp was easier when lvl 36 devourer were equal for war and rouge but now its not
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    Patience Grasshopper...

    Remember that this is the first season of the Staggered Gear Releases. It is not a coincidence that the Magmatic helm and armor are tanking items. When Tindirin elites were first released, they were tough maps to run, and everyone complained. In response, these maps were nerfed, but people still complained. STS then boosted the armor values across the board, and yet people still complain?

    And, as far as the weaponry, Magmatic Blades of Brutality have as much damage as Expedition Bow's of Potency. Not much to complain about there. If you are struggling, then either your party is horrible, or your tactics need refining. I spent part of my day this morning in TDM, which is extremely rare for me, since I am a pure PvE build, yet I did quite well against several Mythic Warriors (12 kills, 3 deaths in my first match), considering I don't have Medic and I sacrificed Crit for a more well rounded build. I don't own any Arcanes (pet or gear), I use a crate bow, and am still rolling with lv36 rings and amulets.

    As has been the case for two seasons now, you can't just barge into a group of tanks and expect to knock them all flat. PvP is a team based pastime, not a solo gig. You simply don't have the HP or armor to go toe-to-toe with a tank, so you have to be able to kite, stun, drop packs and attack strategically. The days of being successful as a button mashing Rogue are well behind us.

    I'm sure that the next wave of the Staggered Release will grant us something better than what we have, but until then, have some patience and try not to get so angry that you don't have a 900 DMG stat, and you can't one hit Tanks with Rendtail rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaker Ida View Post
    are u sure its a pve balde not a pvp ? cause i think its great for pvp and i saw that really well
    Dagger for rogue is high dps..which mean its great for pve, not pvp.
    And bow for rogue is high dmg..which mean its great for pvp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaker Ida View Post
    i have seen warrior with 400+damege using the new blades and the buff they get is much better that the nothing we have and i play with a great tactic so i think baldes are much better than expedtion of potencey that we have or daggers

    The warrior you saw either had an arcane ring on or else a jugg / vb buff on. As a GM i spend a lot of time dealing with stats, and 400+ damage with that blade would be nearly impossible to achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaker Ida View Post
    i have seen warrior with 400+damege using the new blades and the buff they get is much better that the nothing we have and i play with a great tactic so i think baldes are much better than expedtion of potencey that we have or daggers
    i will wait as u said
    and i am not asking to 1 hit a tank i am asking to upgrade our items or downgrade theres
    pvp was easier when lvl 36 devourer were equal for war and rouge but now its not
    Bow are better than blades, but if you have high dmg and high dps with blade, its ok in pvp..like mythic dagger.

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    i mean warrior blade not our dagger is it pvp or pve
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeusblade View Post
    Bow are better than blades, but if you have high dmg and high dps with blade, its ok in pvp..like mythic dagger.

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    thx for answering .. but it was a pure stats and no arcane ring stand at expedition and u will see such stats

    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    The warrior you saw either had an arcane ring on or else a jugg / vb buff on. As a GM i spend a lot of time dealing with stats, and 400+ damage with that blade would be nearly impossible to achieve.

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    I don't think the Magmatic Claymore are that overpowered and also I don't think (Correct Me If I'm wrong) that either Bows, Sword-Shields or Guns are able to be loot from dungeons either.

    As for me, they have to keep balancing the game with the Arcane Ring around. Incase STS ever make a Magmatic Bow for Rogues, we Warriors should get ourself a Magmatic Hammer as well.

    The Expedition Bow is already hurtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaker Ida View Post
    i mean warrior blade not our dagger is it pvp or pve
    Both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaker Ida View Post
    why rouges always gets bad items ??
    I'm not sure what game you've been playing

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    You can't say rogues always get bad items. Sometimes other classes are powerful because of their pets and/or build.

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    Lots of good advice/opinions on gear in here. Hope this helped, Shaker. Closing it up.
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