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    Default Is Guildless Better for a PVP player?

    I feel like not to have a guild when I play PVP.
    I didn't PVP from 2 months because it's just scolding and shouting...so left out went in calm but didn't like that too.

    So now just respec and restarted PVP...

    I belong to a huge guild,and it's ok that if i don't kill my own guildies....even though many times when some join my opposite side I leave and rejoin.
    what if they do allies with another big guild...when ever i join PVP foget about my guild member other guild members join opposite and what should I do then.

    As both are huge guilds with many people some or the other might join opposite and should I leave again? how many rooms should I join?

    and today when i joined a room in tdm all are from different guilds not even a duel from each guild.....and one of our ally guild member joined other side and so I killed him and I got a message from the guild master that he's gonna complain about to my guild master that I ganged his guild mate.

    I don't understand,did I kill him in real life or what and you going to give a police complaint on me or what...giving a dam to me.

    It's my game I gotta play as my wish.

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    What I conclude is staying guildless is better because you can kill any one no allies nothing.we can play as our wish.

    I'm gonna stay out of guild until I get my 10k PVP kills.
    and don't give a dam to me anymore.


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    Guildless= more kills, and MANY more deaths


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    Imo, of guilds have rules about not killing guildies or allies, then the person that joined should leave. Tbh, it's all dumb and you can't really do anything about it if you're joining random games

    How are you supposed to know all the other guilds members. Or even your own if it's s very big guild?

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    You better not enter ctf guildless if you don't want to become the scape goat of the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rare View Post
    Imo, of guilds have rules about not killing guildies or allies, then the person that joined should leave. Tbh, it's all dumb and you can't really do anything about it if you're joining random games

    How are you supposed to know all the other guilds members. Or even your own if it's s very big guild?
    That's why we have the title thing.

    Trust me, I'm usually all for a guild killing their own guild members. But...it turns out, it just makes a lot of unneeded drama. So, having a simple rule like wear your guild title in PvP and don't attack those who are the same guild title as you makes sense, as frustrating as it is.

    Prahida, I was once in a non PvP guild. It's a tough journey when everybody else has these guild rules. If you can make it, GL! I joined a PvP guild around the same time I got WarMonger.
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    In the beginning you will suffer from the loneliness but then you will get used to it and find out that it's better to stay away from drama and guilds pvp rules"no killing guildies or allies" bcs it's killing the game fun and being independent player in pvp is so amazing bcs you will become much more stronger since you need to depend on yourself and to survive their alone from unfair players or guilds . on the other hand , u need to have loyal friends with you so they help you when you call.

    I consider my friends list as a small warm guild which have my awesome friends so I don't see the point of joining a guild except getting more drama , being alone will bring the true peace to u .
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    Kill em all. Guild or no guild. Just make sure you're having fun. If someone takes it personal and calls for help... Get better help or leave.

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    Trust no one..kill anyone..be only one.

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    This is one of the major reasons we chose to never implement the "can't kill guildies" rule at Pheonix. (That, and we have a ton of fun fighting each other, so saw no reason for it.) This situation was inevitable from the first day a guild decided killing guildmates was not allowed.

    Situation: You have a huge guild with a "no killing guildies" rule. For argument's sake let's say that makes around 500 people you are not allowed to kill in pvp. Now your guild gets an "ally" that is also a large guild. The "no kill" rule expands to encompass them also, effectively doubling the number of people you need to avoid fighting. There's only so many players in the game. If you aren't allowed to fight close to 1000 of them, how can you ever actually play properly in pvp? There's not many people left to fight at that point. Seems to me like these rules are self-defeating.

    My point of view: The nice thing about being guildless, or in a guild outside the politics, is that you are not actually a target. For players in a mostly pve guild, or with no guild at all, it means having a lot more freedom. You can go and find matches without guild wars going on in them, and it actually can be a lot of fun. Of course there's jerks everywhere, but it's usually individuals trash talking, not guilds bashing guilds. Most of the drama llamas are so focused on their "enemy guilds" that they don't even pay attention to people without a brand name guild tag on. It's kill and be killed without any animosity, which works out very well for everyone.

    As for support....well, I have never been one to call for "backup". I figure if I can't manage to play without someone coming to hold my hand, I should not be there anyways. I'm stubborn too though, so like to rise to challenges. I may not have the K/D of a kill farmer or a ks rogue, but I have always held my own. This is my choice, and might not be for everyone, but I prefer it to being hampered by anyone else's rightiousness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    That's why we have the title thing.

    Trust me, I'm usually all for a guild killing their own guild members. But...it turns out, it just makes a lot of unneeded drama. So, having a simple rule like wear your guild title in PvP and don't attack those who are the same guild title as you makes sense, as frustrating as it is.

    Prahida, I was once in a non PvP guild. It's a tough journey when everybody else has these guild rules. If you can make it, GL! I joined a PvP guild around the same time I got WarMonger.
    Yeah so you have to run up on someone and see their title first (if they're wearing it). Then determine if they are part of your guild (easy) or an ally guild. And then, if they aren't, you get killed.

    Then... everytime someone joins a game, you have to go see who they are from. Man, that sound so convoluted.

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    Kill em all. Guild or no guild. Just make sure you're having fun. If someone takes it personal and calls for help... Get better help or leave.

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    That's how I feel. If I'm in a match and someone joins the other team. In that match they are the enemy. That's it. If I don't want to kill them, I'll leave. If they don't want me to try to kill them, they should leave.

    The real problem here is people are so concerned over KDR. And guild rankings. Maybe it makes one part of the game fun... but really makes other parts not so.
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    join a guild and join n the drama! that's what pvp is all about!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rare View Post
    Yeah so you have to run up on someone and see their title first (if they're wearing it). Then determine if they are part of your guild (easy) or an ally guild. And then, if they aren't, you get killed.

    Then... everytime someone joins a game, you have to go see who they are from. Man, that sound so convoluted.



    That's how I feel. If I'm in a match and someone joins the other team. In that match they are the enemy. That's it. If I don't want to kill them, I'll leave. If they don't want me to try to kill them, they should leave.

    The real problem here is people are so concerned over KDR. And guild rankings. Maybe it makes one part of the game fun... but really makes other parts not so.
    You can usually see them before you're in attack range.


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    I like your idea, but it doesn't quite work for me. The problem is, I was used to PL PvP, where you can kill everybody but they will only try to take turns at killing you. In short, they had the capability to refrain from ganging.

    Also, if I did kill a guildie, they would go complain. So, this is why the no killing guildies rule was implemented. To those who have successfully pulled off this rule, kudos. Perhaps the guilds I am in can not handle it.

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    You should only go solo if you have friends that you know you can count on. You will get way more kills and less deaths if you know how to play smart. You will get lonely and all. But it all depends on the friends you have nd how much you talk to them

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    I honestly think the "no killing guild members" rule is bad and shouldn't be a thing. It kinda ruins the fun and point of the game, especially since you're playing with friends.

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    I have no guild for 8-9 months..and, honestly, i dont think i need it. My "real" friends are on my list, i respect those...no matter wht!

    Too many kids and dumb people on guilds..no patience! I have friends and enemies/haters in all major guilds, so i see no reason to join one.

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    If you want a good record, you better join one. There's nothing fair about CTF at the moment, just a bunch of people ready to do whatever it takes to get kills, no matter how cheap or undecent it is.

    Also, do not mistakenly suppose that maximum geared players are an exception (eg. all of the arcane ring rogues apart from one maybe) - they will gang and will childishly call tanks to hide behind when they get killed fairly once or twice. Guildless is freedom but like someone already said, a lot of deaths are included.

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    Ctf is crazy. Sometimes everybody just stand there looking at each others face till flaggers flag to 5.

    Today i respeced pvp and tried a couple rounds.

    This is how it went:

    First room was legit 5vs5 clash no stress. Eminence vs EoS.

    I went alone to the next room and bam i had this feeling like i was on the moon cause last time i checked i could attack who i wanted no stress, but now i must be sure i am attacking that enemy alone, i must not gang, must not spawnblock, must not this and must not that. In poor words i must play the gentlemen pvp due to my guild rules.

    At the third room still mentally stucked at not ganging the opponents i got spawnblocked, ganged and wasted by members of guildX.


    One thing i learnt is that as a freelancer with no title you must be prepaired to gang , spawnfarm and play it hard and quit when it is too hot, cause sooner or later you will meet a guild party that gang and spawnfarms and they will dig your grave.

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