End Game Balance Discussion

[Cavoc]

if they decrease the damage , crit and increase the hp then fights wont be based on luck. Bear vs bear is pretty much whoever hits hs or cb. Bird vs bird is whoever dodges more ,mostly 3 skills to finish a fight, mage vs mage is probably about whoever dodges. So if they arrange hp , damage , crit then the fights will no longer be about the luck factor. I suppose it is the most effective way of getting rid of that 'LUCK' factor.

I agree with this. But I also think they should decrease dodge.

[Impact]

Guys dis idea is ditched as u can see...

[Bous]

Bring back old damage skills, the new l76 sets make endgame Overpowered.

[Caiahar]

Okay, make everything oyster based, everything will be alright.

[quantionus]

I agree with this. But I also think they should decrease dodge.

idc about dodge actually as long as fights last longer than they do now

[Ubernewber]

If we look at the overall picture here endgame isn't the only unbalanced level. I used to see birds quite a bit 50- now they are a rarity because they can't manage to stick around with the Mage who does the same damage output with an effective heal or the bear with massive debuffs

[quantionus]

If we look at the overall picture here endgame isn't the only unbalanced level. I used to see birds quite a bit 50- now they are a rarity because they can't manage to stick around with the Mage who does the same damage output with an effective heal or the bear with massive debuffs

but the thread says 'END GAME' ... sigh

[Burningdex]

devs havent replied in 6 pages?

[Laar]

devs havent replied in 6 pages?

Maybe they gave up on us

[Rescind]

but the thread says 'END GAME' ... sigh

I don't understand why it only has to be for endgame. It should be a general thing for all lvls
I'm sure if you add up every PVP player from 1-71, it would outnumber those who play endgame.

[Ubernewber]

but the thread says 'END GAME' ... sigh

But no one cares about endgame, it will never be fixed anyway

[Ssneakykills]

Sam has read through the links we posted on first page already theirs no need for him to comment further at this point I guess

[NotYoCookiez]

Nerf INT MAGEs

[Caiahar]

Nerf INT MAGEs

Nerf Cookies!


All for one, and one for all.

[Speedynuke]

SAMHAYNE PLEASE show us that you haven't ditched this thread

[FortalWao]

You're a PvE dude who likely joined PL in 2013.

yes i am, so can i express my opinions here? i think new players are welcome to game and forum, isn't it? btw, for most of the time i pve but i do pvp too.

Obviously if the entire community says that it is luck based there isn't much to improve. Sure, sometimes you can nuke a bear because you get lucky, but skill ain't gonna help you much if they dodge your blind and just kill you with beckon stomp. Also I'm willing to fight any of your endgame characters if you see it like that.

not the entire community, just two groups, *cough cough*
if you miss blind, you still have repulse, if you miss repulse, you still have roots.

Also I'm willing to fight any of your endgame characters if you see it like that.

what do you mean? if i am not with you then i have to fight you? if you want to look what am i saying, go try with some good birds like cold and you will know the main problem is... skills, not sts

Well if you don't do PvP, don't commend on threads regarding PvP. If you think it's about skills, go ahead and fight my savage bear if in your eyes I'm an unskilled player (because you said unskilled people complain because they can't win). As regarding bird vs bear fights, if he dodges blind he will likely hit beckon and then your HP is so low he just needs to hit a single auto/stomp/slash... So yeah, back it up, fight me.

[ucapes]

Just have fun guyz

[quantionus]

I don't understand why it only has to be for endgame. It should be a general thing for all lvls
I'm sure if you add up every PVP player from 1-71, it would outnumber those who play endgame.

lmfao why are you telling to me , the devs wanted to balance the endgame , u made me laugh

[FFA]

I had a little hope at one point that there was gonna be a nerf...

[MightyMicah]

I had a little hope at one point that there was gonna be a nerf...

I still have that hope.