I was willing to stop commenting on that subject for the sake of the topic and I still won't make another post on this but: moderate spamming is spamming too - of course it's counterproductive in any elite runs to just go AFK on stable and spam. And of course no one is going to admit doing anything similar; either after the extreme mob pulls or on bosses. Go try getting close to the same run times without samaels and tell me what happened. Just because a bunch of people with maxed out gear run the same pulls over and over until max banishments occur doesn't make them anything special to look up to - the time they invest on that procedure to boost their overly attached-to-the-game egos is only admirable for the effort not the skill or abilities needed.
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