Juggernaut or vengeful blood? Or both?

[Primeblades]

Hey guys I'm a level 22 twink, been thinking about respecting my warrior, I love pvp and I would like your thoughts on what abilities I should use. Thanks guys

[Kreasadriii]

Hello ^^
Some twinks use both for switching.
For me, I'll take both for use at same time.
VB : Full
Jugg : 1,2

Goodluck XD

[Primeblades]

Thanks for the info since sts will be taking out the ability to switch skills I don't want to get used to switching. When you use veng and jugger do you still get kills? I can't believe you would be getting many kills with only 1 attack ability

[Xeusx]

Thanks for the info since sts will be taking out the ability to switch skills I don't want to get used to switching. When you use veng and jugger do you still get kills? I can't believe you would be getting many kills with only 1 attack ability

Vengeful blood is great in killing and in clashes..
Juggernaut is great ONLY in clashes...

So, i suggest u should use vengeful blood if u want to killing, and use juggernaut if u want it in clashes..

[Xeusx]

Hello ^^
Some twinks use both for switching.
For me, I'll take both for use at same time.
VB : Full
Jugg : 1,2

Goodluck XD

That is called tanking in clashes...and not killing.

[Primeblades]

Vengeful blood is great in killing and in clashes..
Juggernaut is great ONLY in clashes...

So, i suggest u should use vengeful blood if u want to killing, and use juggernaut if u want it in clashes..

I will probably go with jugger because I like to stay alive, but still not sure. Does vengeful blood make that much of a difference in damage output? Is it that noticeable? I am making this account specificly for clashes, so I will probably use jugger, still I would like to be capable in other areas.

[Xeusx]

I will probably go with jugger because I like to stay alive, but still not sure. Does vengeful blood make that much of a difference in damage output? Is it that noticeable? I am making this account specificly for clashes, so I will probably use jugger, still I would like to be capable in other areas.

Vengeful blood will buff your damage, and juggernaut only buff your health.

[Primeblades]

Vengeful blood will buff your damage, and juggernaut only buff your health.

Yea I gathered that much, what I'm asking is does vengeful blood make that much of a difference in damage output? Say I'm dealing 200 damage with axe throw, how much more increase will it go up? Iv heard some people say that veng is only good for the mana it gives but they were at endgame and I'm not sure if that changes the higher you go.

[Xeusx]

Yea I gathered that much, what I'm asking is does vengeful blood make that much of a difference in damage output? Say I'm dealing 200 damage with axe throw, how much more increase will it go up? Iv heard some people say that veng is only good for the mana it gives but they were at endgame and I'm not sure if that changes the higher you go.

Yes, Vengeful will make much damage output and make the axe throw OP. So, with the damage output and crit buff, use Axe Throw and ur enemy will fall alot.

[Primeblades]

Yes, Vengeful will make much damage output and make the axe throw OP. So, with the damage output and crit buff, use Axe Throw and ur enemy will fall alot.

Ok thanks for that Zeus btw since I really want juggernaut and you said vengeful is really good, why not get both? Would having only 1 attack ability make me really wimpy? Should I just get vengful blood and ditch juggernaut? Thanks

[UndeadJudge]

Ok thanks for that Zeus btw since I really want juggernaut and you said vengeful is really good, why not get both? Would having only 1 attack ability make me really wimpy? Should I just get vengful blood and ditch juggernaut? Thanks

Well, when you use either warrior or mage, you can't always have the best build for every situation.

If you are tanking, ESPECIALLY alone, then jugg is amazing. It's irritating for me to play with warriors without jugg that tank alone or with 1 other because they end up dying before any of our dps do.

Don't drop VB though, it's necessary at twink levels to keep your mana up, and to do damage. VB will also refill mana to allies if they are hit.

So here's my answer: If 1v1, drop jugg (although it can be helpful vs rogue). If clash, you don't wanna be focusing on damage anyway. Get 3/5 jugg, or 4/5 if you have an extra point.

[Alhuntrazeck]

Prime, VB is pro at low lvls. It gives +50 str 25% crit 25% damage as well as returns mana...and low mana is one thing twinks suffer from! 50 STR isn't great shakes at l41 (about 500 hp I think) but it'd surely make an impact at twink levels.

Get both.

[Kreasadriii]

kill :
- Charged attack
- combine with skill pet timing
- Charged Skyward Smash

[tankk]

2 words

PLAY STYLE

[Primeblades]

Thanks guys this was super helpful very good insight and detailed comparison! I think I will get Heal, jugger, veng, and chest splitter, because of what I heard chest splitter deals the highest damage over time if you can hit the enemy every time, I'm focusing more on clash with this build. I will either have that build or heal, veng, axe throw, and skyward smash for duels, tell me what you think thanks guys

[Taejo]

Thanks guys this was super helpful very good insight and detailed comparison! I think I will get Heal, jugger, veng, and chest splitter, because of what I heard chest splitter deals the highest damage over time if you can hit the enemy every time, I'm focusing more on clash with this build. I will either have that build or heal, veng, axe throw, and skyward smash for duels, tell me what you think thanks guys

In Season 4 I used a similar build - HoR, Jugg, Veng, SS. Worked really well in clashes and also got some decent kills in. With CS, like you said, "if you can hit the enemy every time", therein lies CS's one downfall. The frontal cone dynamic that it uses is somewhat finicky in hitting your target (short range), especially if it's constantly moving around. Unless they've improved CS's hitting capability, I always found CS to be frustrating. SS at least locks the attack onto a target, and usually strikes it. Not to mention it also adds some mobility to your warrior.

[Primeblades]

In Season 4 I used a similar build - HoR, Jugg, Veng, SS. Worked really well in clashes and also got some decent kills in. With CS, like you said, "if you can hit the enemy every time", therein lies CS's one downfall. The frontal cone dynamic that it uses is somewhat finicky in hitting your target (short range), especially if it's constantly moving around. Unless they've improved CS's hitting capability, I always found CS to be frustrating. SS at least locks the attack onto a target, and usually strikes it. Not to mention it also adds some mobility to your warrior.

But without ss you are missing out on feeble, isn't that how rogues kill so quickly? Because they can crit with aimshot and deal 250% more damage? I'm just speculating, I don't know much about this stuff that's why i created this thread

[Kreasadriii]

But without ss you are missing out on feeble, isn't that how rogues kill so quickly? Because they can crit with aimshot and deal 250% more damage? I'm just speculating, I don't know much about this stuff that's why i created this thread

Rogue kill easyly because the aimedshot stack critical, the more aimed shot you hit to enemeis, the more critical that enemy will received.
Also taking health from pierce is very WoW -__-

Even warrior with jugger + VB must be carefully while meet rogue dash type (with stunt charge attack, bow lock type such as umbral, and always charged pierce to get health)

[alexdroog]

In 22 you don’t have enough skill points for 5 skills. That’s why you have to choose wisely.
VB is a must – health, dmg, crit and endless MANA.
Horn is a must with shield
SS is a must for dmg, stun and move fast.

This leaves you with
at- not enough dmg in low lvls, long cooldown but high fun factor for farming noobs
jugger – for team players who want to leave the kills to rogue and have low deaths. In 1v1 vs warri they will laugh at you when you use jugger (no pet, heal/ jugger). Rogues will kill you 1v1 as soon as jugger is off. You won’t kill a rogue since you can’t deal enough damage before he drops the next packs.
CS – dmg and feeble – for killers.

It’s mainly a question of playing style.

Personally I use CS and switch gear:
- For clashes: I use migty jugger/ berserker set with storm sword – higher armor and heal proc
- For 1v1: I use use Tarlok assault with dws – higher damage

[Topchar]

Veng is the key ur power.
Jug for devense, use both for tank build.
Use just veng for critic build and with sky,chest,horn.
sorry if im wrong and sorry for my english