Goblin Event Official Suggestions and Feedback Thread

**Midievalmodel** · 06-07-2014, 01:33 PM

First off I want to say I am in favor of the old Tarlok Assault system of portals. I felt that STG could of tweaked that old system to increase there platinum revenue very effectively. But i digress. I have a feeling this energy ball system is here to stay so I rather try to address a way to improve it instead of fighting a losing battle.

STGs idea of the energy ball system is that they based it off of the now tradable elixirs. What they found was that tradable elixirs forced plat and non-plat users to create a platinum sink either directly or indirectly. The platinum spenders directly spent platinum by buying these elixirs for consumption or auction house sale. While the non-plat spenders indirectly spent platinum by buying these kits off of the auction house. STG figured this might be the case with the energy ball system.

However, there are two fundamental problems. First problem is this event is a test event that did not truly test the full capacity of the real event which will have much more sought after items which will drive people to enter these portals. So because these items in the test goblin event are not worth much there is little incentive to buy expensive energy balls (14 to 17 k per energy ball) or with platinum (unless you are selling them on AH). The bullk of the players that are buying these energy balls like mad are people trying to reach leaderboards. Therefore, if STG wants to keep this energy ball system they have to somehow decrease the platinum price of these energy balls so that when its sold in the auction house it is cheap enough for normal players to be willing to buy them (maybe in the range of 3 to 4 k). Also the new event that is coming must have high enough incentive in terms of rare items to justify spending 3 to 4 k on an energy ball for a chance at these items. As it stands with the current system, it makes no sense for a player to spend 300 k of energy kits to be able to buy an item worth 90 to 200 k. There is no profit there.

The second fundamental issue with the energy ball system is stagnation of game play. People want to farm for hours on end which cannot happen with the current system. The more time you have players logged on and playing continuously the more money you will make STG. With this current system, players are only playing at 20 to 30 minute spurts and logging off which is a very bad thing for a game. Therefore, if STG want to keep this energy ball system they gotta find a balance of cool-down and price of the energy balls to keep game play continuous.

There were great ideas presented by Joncheese here at this link http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...All-Our-Issues. He mentioned energy balls should drop from random bosses from all maps across Arlor, which I think might help with reducing the stagnation of game-play, but I think we need more tweaks to the system to make it run smoothly.

**Milan Lame Man** · 06-07-2014, 06:24 PM

I don't know what others think but I have to say, Chief Fury at lv41 is kinda OP.
Even if I dodge red zones, his poison attack eats my health almost as fast as I can pot, due to potion cooldown.
I have to keep potting until he starts a red zone attack, at which time it's possible to squeeze one shot, than back to potting. If I lag for 1/2 sec, I'm dead. Same for both rogue and sorcerer.

I understand that at lv41 we are supposed to be full mythic/arcane and have an OP pet equipped (hint, hint), but is this really as hard as it was meant to be?

Sergeant Gunn one hits, but I think with some practice, this can be avoided.

Major Payne is pure insanity, it took me 40 minutes to hit a 2 minute window where I didn't lag for 1/2 a second. I can see why everyone and their mother cheats in this zone. Perhaps if Boss's damage output went a tiny little bit down each time someone dies, it would make the experience less stressful, without affecting gameplay of most.

It works all pretty well at both lv16 and lv10, hard but doable.

**Rean** · 06-08-2014, 10:20 PM

Come to think of it, it is actually a clever move to award the exclusive Nightshade only to the top 3 in the LB.

Maybe a few months down the road when STS decides to make Nightshade purchasable by plats (say 250 from the store), they will only get complaints from 3 individuals, maximum. Hehehe..

**Ravager** · 06-08-2014, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rean:1675002

Come to think of it, it is actually a clever move to award the exclusive Nightshade only to the top 3 in the LB.

Maybe a few months down the road when STS decides to make Nightshade purchasable by plats (say 250 from the store), they will only get complaints from 3 individuals, maximum. Hehehe..

Haha. Odd that a legendary pet would be 250 though. Might as well just make it mythic grade. Let us collectors hope.

**Milan Lame Man** · 06-09-2014, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Rean

they will only get complaints from 3 individuals, maximum. Hehehe..

Looks like it will be 4, rofl.

**Foebegone** · 06-09-2014, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Milan Lame Man

I don't know what others think but I have to say, Chief Fury at lv41 is kinda OP.
Even if I dodge red zones, his poison attack eats my health almost as fast as I can pot, due to potion cooldown.
I have to keep potting until he starts a red zone attack, at which time it's possible to squeeze one shot, than back to potting. If I lag for 1/2 sec, I'm dead. Same for both rogue and sorcerer.

I understand that at lv41 we are supposed to be full mythic/arcane and have an OP pet equipped (hint, hint), but is this really as hard as it was meant to be?

Sergeant Gunn one hits, but I think with some practice, this can be avoided.

Major Payne is pure insanity, it took me 40 minutes to hit a 2 minute window where I didn't lag for 1/2 a second. I can see why everyone and their mother cheats in this zone. Perhaps if Boss's damage output went a tiny little bit down each time someone dies, it would make the experience less stressful, without affecting gameplay of most.

It works all pretty well at both lv16 and lv10, hard but doable.

Your meant to spend your 10 plat on poison immunity stone...

**Milan Lame Man** · 06-09-2014, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Foebegone

Your meant to spend your 10 plat on poison immunity stone...

That would mean the game is plat-to-enjoy, which STS keeps defying despite solid evidence of the contrary.

**Nelrevete** · 06-09-2014, 04:16 AM

What is the effect of this event? Such that divided the players. Paying players have lost a lot of money for someone stupid test. Players who play for free, get the frustrations and felt unwanted, 70% of free players advertise this game. This is not the first major setback Sam, it should be someone to replace. Someone with better ideas and respectful of all players. Just in my opinion.

**Jig** · 06-09-2014, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Nelrevete

What is the effect of this event? Such that divided the players. Paying players have lost a lot of money for someone stupid test. Players who play for free, get the frustrations and felt unwanted, 70% of free players advertise this game. This is not the first major setback Sam, it should be someone to replace. Someone with better ideas and respectful of all players. Just in my opinion.

Payers payed their money on their own risk, they should of known what type of event before they start sinking plat into farming points, it gives a special banner for the top 25, which will be rare later on in the future... I don't understand the fuss, it's like oh lets spend 1k plat and do heaps of runs THEN look up what this event gives you.

**yasshh** · 06-09-2014, 04:46 AM

Got a question:

What's the point of portals popping in mid-maps when u can straight away access it from littleridge

**Jig** · 06-09-2014, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by yasshh

Got a question:

What's the point of portals popping in mid-maps when u can straight away access it from littleridge

The portal in the camp doesn't take you to the goblin dungeon, does it? Last time I looked it just opens up Arlor map.

**Milan Lame Man** · 06-09-2014, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by yasshh

What's the point of portals popping in mid-maps when u can straight away access it from littleridge

Originally Posted by Jig

The portal in the camp doesn't take you to the goblin dungeon, does it? Last time I looked it just opens up Arlor map.

It was originally meant to use the spawned portals only, but STS realized there is no point since the entry is limited by energy anyway, so they changed the portal in Little Camp to take you directly to the Mission map. They probably did not bother to stop portals from spawning, as this is "just a test event".

**Nelrevete** · 06-09-2014, 07:29 AM

Jig - Yes you are right but they are also very important factors. Rivalry and the errors in the event. On the forum was a discussion about the portal couse it was a problem with him. Look some players search portals on all maps in Arlor World, they read that in info about the portal(they lose time) and some ppl just go to same portal in event town. During the event has changed, the portal appeared exclamation point, I'm talking about the city where we have an event. Newbies read info in the game, not that forum. You forgot that. Most players asked me where they should going to portal when event starts. Some people get faster points, not only because they paying, you know what I mean. Ok now what's about tokens and free players. They not have a chance buying few items for tokens. I test that on my three total free characters. I pay only on my rogue. In gold tier I got everytime like 1-2tokens lol! Very nice drop! Sam said gold tier is good chance for better drop. Only two time I got 4tokens. On all 3free characters like my friends. Was very fun lol. Tomorrow We have last day event and 3my free characters get only vanityx2(I use all my 24h chances) wow... Only my payrogue get more...Store tokens is for all players in town event really? Not in my opinion.So fair event for all players ? no is not. And i spend lot of money in my rogue now stop so can't get banner ok my risk u have right. I get nothing that is awesome fun. I'm not trolling just want sey that event is not nice for me and my friends. Just it. We got NOTHING. Or meybe We r totaly losers ever lol yea. It s like casino not freemium game. Go ask how much money TrueOrigin spend for banner and wolf lol. And give gratz for player in top26. I'm not cryingchild i love this game. Just give my opinion dude. Halloween and Tarlok was normal and better system events. Energy token time is epic fail for me. Free players and Paying players can buy kit energy like me and you, but I think newbies with low lvl do not have gold for buy more kits energy. So unfair event. Best regards

**yasshh** · 06-09-2014, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jig

The portal in the camp doesn't take you to the goblin dungeon, does it? Last time I looked it just opens up Arlor map.

In recent update they directly take you to littleridge...

**Hellgamer** · 06-09-2014, 09:36 AM

Will we be able to use tokens a day or two after the end of the event?
About what time at what time zone event ends?

**Ravager** · 06-09-2014, 02:24 PM

The competition for lb and the prizes that are being awarded are a bad idea.

People are not taking care of themselves trying to get the top prizes. Healthwise, it's a bad decision and it would look real bad if something were to happen users in the next 3 week event. Award banners but nothing more than it.

Remove the energy orbs. The event is costing too much just to be on the lb, be competitive or simply to enjoy.

**Rianaku** · 06-09-2014, 05:10 PM

I 100% agree with the energy removal.
Yes, it makes you guys at STS a bunch of money I'm sure.
But,
For us, it costs faaaar to much to even actually enjoy. And if it doesn't cost you, because you choose not to purchase extra energy, then you get mildly nothing from the event.
Make the event harder,
so it's actually a challenge.
And most of all, a Fair competition.

Also it goes along with the new Crate system. Just sounds like a new way to screw us who buy little or no plat.
Anyway, just my 2 cents

PEACE

**Rianaku** · 06-09-2014, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Milan Lame Man

I don't know what others think but I have to say, Chief Fury at lv41 is kinda OP.
Even if I dodge red zones, his poison attack eats my health almost as fast as I can pot, due to potion cooldown.
I have to keep potting until he starts a red zone attack, at which time it's possible to squeeze one shot, than back to potting. If I lag for 1/2 sec, I'm dead. Same for both rogue and sorcerer.

I understand that at lv41 we are supposed to be full mythic/arcane and have an OP pet equipped (hint, hint), but is this really as hard as it was meant to be?

Sergeant Gunn one hits, but I think with some practice, this can be avoided.

Major Payne is pure insanity, it took me 40 minutes to hit a 2 minute window where I didn't lag for 1/2 a second. I can see why everyone and their mother cheats in this zone. Perhaps if Boss's damage output went a tiny little bit down each time someone dies, it would make the experience less stressful, without affecting gameplay of most.

It works all pretty well at both lv16 and lv10, hard but doable.

Not to be rude, but this is laughable.
He is not meant to be solo, just like any boss really.
In a party, he is a piss of urine to kill.

PEACE

**Malcolm Ireland** · 06-09-2014, 06:14 PM

Dissapointed, i have spent all my gold on this event (600k) on energy, now i know for some ppl thats nothing but for me that was a lot of farming. In the end i have nothing to show for it asides from the vanity and ironbite and a ring that i cant even sell, 1070 points but no chance of making leaderboard at all. Seen Gyrm drop for others still none for me yet its the only thing in event even worth trying to get, should have just spent my gold on Gyrm and would still have change. very sad that even though i have tried hard and faild i have nothing to show for it and never will as Gyrm will be so expencive after event and i dont have gold to buy him. not to mention all the luck kits ive wasted in there i would say closer to 700k gone.

toon in game name
Phoenixaries

**Otahaanak** · 06-09-2014, 06:28 PM

@Ran
he can be killed solo using:
shield, fire, frost, light (Currently I'm running a 5 skill pure PVE build too)
Scorch, grimm, Clyde as pets - I'd have used others but those are 3 of the 5 I get with the stable issue. You have to move constantly and keep your distance. Chief and Payne are tough but they are meant to be.

One point that does come from this question is that I've had more success finding Payne running solo than with groups of pugs. Didn't realize early on that I was probably hurting others as a bronze.