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    Default Bears are dead. They need help

    Bears are utterly useless now.

    Paladins stole their tanking roles. They can't dps a much as birds. Warriors section is always dead. These guys seriously need help, and this is coming from someone who doesn't even use bears. Nobody wants to play them anymore.

    I remember when I first played this game a few months ago, the game seem to be plagued by bears. We need bears not to suck again.
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    Agreed, and I'm in the same position as you. Bears need to be revived, literally~
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    Yes! I've been saying this too. I may not have a level 50 bear but they are super fun to play as in PVE for crowd control and I love having them around. Everybody doubts their abilities because nobody bothers to make good bears any more (except Tssrosalka).
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    I need this to happen soon... I am constantly dying in the middle room of vl... The birds are just running through whistling and twiddling their thumbs...

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    Guys i know all of us dislike the bears being nerfed but instead of repeating similar threads, we need to think of a solution

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    Solution = Bears sacrifice a small amount of armor in return for damage x2 of sacrifice. New spells such as charge would also increase effectiveness, or a spell that automatically switches aggro back to the bear.

    Bears still got Beckon, no paladin can do the all mighty becon.

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    I have all 3 I used my bear 24/7 I loved him then suddenly bang its useless.... Now I use my dex bird >.< and I'd love to play as my bear again
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    Cinco said in chat box that a slight solution may be to have iron blood give a little less armor, but to steal some armor from the opponent, sounds like a start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Cinco said in chat box that a slight solution may be to have iron blood give a little less armor, but to steal some armor from the opponent, sounds like a start
    Do we really need to give bears more armor? Solution is to take a small amount of armor from them, but replace it x2 with damage. Hell in PvP pure Str bears survive taking aggro from 3 people for a good 10 seconds. It also leaves everyone useless with no buffs/cooling down, so bears still pwn in group PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharcyde View Post
    Do we really need to give bears more armor? Solution is to take a small amount of armor from them, but replace it x2 with damage. Hell in PvP pure Str bears survive taking aggro from 3 people for a good 10 seconds. It also leaves everyone useless with no buffs/cooling down, so bears still pwn in group PvP.
    Me Fab and Jolly (ajeje) work together, we work pretty well. We call ourselves the dream team having a bear on a pvp team isn't a bad idea, especially one as good as fab. They're not bad, but most people don't know how to play them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Me Fab and Jolly (ajeje) work together, we work pretty well. We call ourselves the dream team having a bear on a pvp team isn't a bad idea, especially one as good as fab. They're not bad, but most people don't know how to play them.
    Only problem I see with them is its easy to kill steal them. Thus the injection of steroids will save the bear . Def though! I do love that bears cast nonstop high criticals; weapon wise once they do get ahold of birdies and magies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharcyde View Post
    Only problem I see with them is its easy to kill steal them. Thus the injection of steroids will save the bear . Def though! I do love that bears cast nonstop high criticals; weapon wise once they do get ahold of birdies and magies.
    Fab gets a lot of kills for a bear, but still not a ton. He gets a lot of kills for a bear, but overall, he gets about average. Bears really help in a party though. With he'll scream, terror combo makes the enemy/enemies so squishy. I really like my int bear, very fun, and pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Fab gets a lot of kills for a bear, but still not a ton. He gets a lot of kills for a bear, but overall, he gets about average. Bears really help in a party though. With he'll scream, terror combo makes the enemy/enemies so squishy. I really like my int bear, very fun, and pretty good.
    Bears need working taunt becon better iron blood a bit better they just need there tanking ability back lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Fab gets a lot of kills for a bear, but still not a ton. He gets a lot of kills for a bear, but overall, he gets about average. Bears really help in a party though. With he'll scream, terror combo makes the enemy/enemies so squishy. I really like my int bear, very fun, and pretty good.
    Heheh I'll have to play with your int bear sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharcyde View Post
    Heheh I'll have to play with your int bear sometime.
    Helps not slow down the party, and has a pretty good chance of survivability. He has about 100 armor and 19 hs and 21 ms, I haven't tested tanking with him, I'm sure with a good Mage in the party he may be able to do it but I didn't make him to tank. I made him for fun, and to have a use for my bear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Helps not slow down the party, and has a pretty good chance of survivability. He has about 100 armor and 19 hs and 21 ms, I haven't tested tanking with him, I'm sure with a good Mage in the party he may be able to do it but I didn't make him to tank. I made him for fun, and to have a use for my bear
    Haha good mages are hard to find these days. Everyone is just button jammers now, which can actually be counter productive at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharcyde View Post
    Haha good mages are hard to find these days. Everyone is just button jammers now, which can actually be counter productive at times.
    I think it's smarter to take your time and set up combo on bosses rather than mash buttons, I mean, its not like he's going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    I think it's smarter to take your time and set up combo on bosses rather than mash buttons, I mean, its not like he's going anywhere.
    Indeed, its likely the mage will switch aggro anyways, so why not inflict more damage while your at it. Funny since I started Pvping, my PvE effectiveness has increased greatly. PvP combos work great in dungeons too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharcyde View Post
    Indeed, its likely the mage will switch aggro anyways, so why not inflict more damage while your at it. Funny since I started Pvping, my PvE effectiveness has increased greatly. PvP combos work great in dungeons too.
    Yeah, biggest different in pvp and pve is, in pvp, you have to be fast, and have a good combo to win against some guys. In pve, you don't have to have that to kill a boss. It is great practice though, also helps you manage your survivability without using pots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Yeah, biggest different in pvp and pve is, in pvp, you have to be fast, and have a good combo to win against some guys. In pve, you don't have to have that to kill a boss. It is great practice though, also helps you manage your survivability without using pots.
    I used to practice survivability by soloing Victory Lap and Captive Audience with no Elixir's. Went pretty good but I guzzled soo many potions and contributed a good 300 deaths from it :P. Oh well I got way better at surviving anything .

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