She is rather easy if you fight her by the last tree that is right before the big open "boss area". The vines stay in the open area and don't follow her down there. I'd love to take credit for finding this little secret but of course it was Madnex who put me on to this.
So I would have to agree that something is wrong with her. I have fought her with lvl 15, 31, 36 and 41 mages all with mostly top grand gemmed gear. Her scaling is definitely off. She is incredibly easy at lvl 15. I can kill her in less than a minute solo without the ward or any elixirs. At lvl 41 she is tough, but I think reasonable and doable with almost any party I get paired with in a PUG. At lvl 31 or 36, just forget about doing her in a PUG.
A much too common occurrence for me is joining a map with my lvl 31 mage, having a lvl 29 rogue and a lvl 32 warrior join me. I think to myself "not ideal, but doable." We make our way to the boss and bam, a lvl 36 warrior joins the map. Now a lvl 29 rogue and a lvl 31 mage are fighting a boss scaled to lvl 36 with lvl 32 and 36 warriors who do almost no damage and sometimes can't even stay alive, begging for mana the whole time. I feel like a mosquito trying to take down Godzilla. The few times I have decided to stick with it, assuming that the rest of the team doesn't give up, it takes me forever to kill her and I end up using hundreds of pots. An ok scenario if the drops were actually potentially good. I am usually not a fair weathered player and I don't give up easily, but unfortunately I do not find this boss either fun or worth it, and I recently more often then not have been finding myself just leaving the map if I am in a less than optimal team with my twinks
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Yes, being in a PUG with a warrior that is 6 levels above me, that simply sucks. I don't see why STS is letting this go on without any comments.
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Fighting Helena isn't hard so much as tiresome.
I liken it to having to chisel through a brick wall with a spoon, you'll get through it eventually, but you'll curse and hate every single minute of it.
Fighting a boss who is primarily a wall always sucks, you just gotta put your game face on and throw everything you have it.
A little piece of advise, auto attack and tapping your skills instead of charging does wonders against her HP - it also helps to have a team of gyrm users who know how to time his arcane ability. A high crit rate with skill tapping and auto attack is a good way to take her and the vines down fairly quickly.
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Like others have said a huge problem is people attacking the vines and not her. That and leechers staying dead on the stage. She just takes a long time to kill.
A few things have worked well for me tho between my 3 mains and 3 twinks.
Mages Curse works well since she hits so hard. I try to time it for right before her star drop happens. Or like sirulian said just tap your skills if you don't have curse.
Warriors that don't have mythic or arcane weapons should be using conquerors wall of potency. The proc gives an armor boost and stuns the bosses a lot. Best weapon IMO for her. Plus using one attack skill with vb, jugg and horn keeps you alive really well.
My rogue has been using a magma security set and architect blades with smoke bomb and daggers strip her life much faster than bows will. Plus most bow users barely hit her because of vines. Staying alive is tough when smoke isn't up so that's the only time I can get killed with this set.
Also having a dash skill will get you back to the zone fast so she won't reset. Best advise I can give for Helena. Just remember if she wasn't here like this people would be flying through portal bosses like tarlok event. This slows it down.
Best post this far on strategy and tips...much appreciated. I'm sure many players having w trouble w this fight will find this useful to make the encounter somewhat easier. Giving ur insight and recommendations is what others should b posting , not ripping on someone who simply shared their opinions, thoughts and concerns (that is what forums r all about anyways). I'm sure STS implemented this fight to prevent everyone from blazing thru tiers w greatest of ease, they have their reasonsOriginally Posted by Wutzgood
I do think maybe reducing the rng factor of getting her so often would make a huge difference... If ur a plat player I'm sure it doesn't matter, but those who don't have lots of real money to spend and newer players without millions of gold and mythic n arcane weapons n gear will have problems getting to gold tier.
My main issue is w people leaving as soon as they see her. When ur a squishy and ur high level warrior that's 5-7 levels above u leaves, it's a fail plain n simple. And not being able to bring in ur dedicated guildies who r within a few levels of u to help when she resets or before encounter has even started n everyone bails is quite discouraging. Maybe a quick hotfix would make it a little more enjoyable for everyone.
Maybe if STS chimed in w a "blue post" about this issue/subject, it would put all of our minds at ease a little more. But then again they might b sitting back and laughing at all the wipes and fails this boss has brought us
yeah. agree with u.
rogues using veil and daggers does nice dmg. also rogues must use Ward at endgame. even vines can kill them with starfall combo.
in my twink I use veil+razor shield. and having ward makes me to move away easily to other side. daggers are perfect for this bboss and bows for ursoth.
also those war wearing, mythic set should use jugg.
I hate how AL players are complaining about stuff like this. You are getting updates and new content. Be thankful for once.
Exactly. No one is forced to participate in this event. If Helena is too OP for you, just ignore everything elondrian-related.
<Enigmatic>Ludens necesse est, vivere non est necesse.
Actually, I wasn't complaining, I was asking for advice. Sorry if it offended you.
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Didn't offend me I'm just tired of seeing AL complainers.
Well, I'm going to stop this conversation since it seems I am talking to a brick wall.
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You will hardly meet a SL complainer on AL forums.
And yeah, I met her yesterday with lv21 sorc in a PUG of 4, we got pwned and 2 left. With the remaining lv23 warrior it took us 25 minutes to kill her. The warrior could not survive the plants, so we had to improvise a bit.
But in the end, it's simply SUPER BORING!! I don't think my lv21 will make it to golden if I have to fight her like 40 times with 300 pots each..
One more remark.
I have already fell asleep running Jarl, but never during actually playing the game - with one exception. Helena is so boring I often fall asleep fighting her!
Disclaimer: my lameness is figurative but strong
One thing annoying about ye dear Helena:
A high-level spawn that you have to solo because everyone else, including the higher level/s that spawned her have left.
Even I get frustrated sometimes wondering why I'm tickling her.
Star light, star bright...
How about instead of nerfing Helena she had a chance of dropping some loot, any loot that is usable. I think a lot less folks would complain. There is just no reward for beating her.
But you have an update sooooo. Honestly cmon AL. While the other legends games are waiting you guys are getting everything. Seriously. They put effort into your game, don't complain.
Spent $10 on plat today to try to get to gold tier....EVERY SINGLE time I went in I got Helena....zero kills...zero rep...zero tokens....really devs? Why not take a page from WoW and nerf her after first week and only give achievement to those who downed her pre-nerf ...I am now looking for a new game to play due to this...
Really devs? Omg like really? Give me 10 updates and I'm gonna complain
From what I've read u qq more than anyone on this forum about not getting updates on ur game of preference... keep living in the past bro...I'm sure ur a horrible gm as well with all the crying out of ur corner....but ur right u dont have to participate in the event if u don't want to, and w bosses like Helena and ur avg skill of the random pug, it simply makes spending real money or even gold on energy kits simply not worth it and that seems to b the point most r trying to make. Kudos. I did manage to finally see one besides her after 20+ consecutive attempts and got the croc...yet to see ursoth halfway thru silver tier...but why is it my guildies can't join when they r within 4 levels of me and encounter hasnt been started yet in pugs I get some people 5-6 levels lower. Go back to barrens chat where u came from ��Really devs? Omg like really? Give me 10 updates and I'm gonna complain
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