Oh yea I forgot why I don't like mmo's...

**Phaded** · 01-12-2011, 04:11 PM

Always a small % of people whining on the forums that cause rash decisions by developers. Congrats to the ten people who were no longer able to be rich farmers, you can do so again.

I'm surprised they aren't on here now telling devs to remove the loot that dropped easily...

My only statement is this: 160,000 gold is 600 plat, which is $60 of real money and 160,00 can't buy anything good at all. Lol, how is that remotely right?

Granted I don't buy gold, but that's how the devs value gold prices. $120 real dollars buys one digital item, that's amazing to me... Honestly the economy crash would have been the best thing these devs could have done to make real money.

Anyways, glad I got my gear yesterday. Time to gouge prices.

**Pharcyde** · 01-12-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Phaded

Always a small % of people whining on the forums that cause rash decisions by developers. Congrats to the ten people who were no longer able to be rich farmers, you can do so again.

I'm surprised they aren't on here now telling devs to remove the loot that dropped easily...

My only statement is this: 160,000 gold is 600 plat, which is $60 of real money and 160,00 can't buy anything good at all. Lol, how is that remotely right?

Granted I don't buy gold, but that's how the devs value gold prices. $120 real dollars buys one digital item, that's amazing to me... Honestly the economy crash would have been the best thing these devs could have done to make real money.

Anyways, glad I got my gear yesterday. Time to gouge prices.

Sorry to say but your kinda whining too about plat prices.

1.) How they make money, rich boy gets a hold of his parents credit card = Payday for Spacetime.

2.) Keeps the economy balanced. If gold prices were cheap, then inflation would shoot way high. Injections of money into a economy is never a good thing. Thats why theres no epic farm rates anymore, 10k a run on keeper was insane.

3.) You don't have to buy it, why make threads about it if you will never buy it? Making solutions gets you a lot father then ranting.

**Phaded** · 01-12-2011, 04:19 PM

You completely misread what I posted.

5% of your player base complaining on the forums is not who you should listen to.

I'm not complaining about plat and I'm about to make a killing on loot, so don't jump to conclusions k?

**Pharcyde** · 01-12-2011, 04:24 PM

You changed focus of the thread completely. I didn't comment on the first paragraph because you totally changed subjects. Plus we already all know about forum whiners, so thats why I didn't comment on that.

If your not complaining about it, then why was it posted here? IMO, anything out of the suggestion forum can almost be considered complaining if there is no solution presented. Care to address what you think should be done to gold prices?

Edit: "My only statement is this" also completely removes focus off your original topic.

**Sigkill** · 01-12-2011, 04:27 PM

@Phaded

There is a reason why no1 wastes plat on gold....

**Phaded** · 01-12-2011, 04:28 PM

No clue. But changing a system developers thought was good two days later because a handful of people didnt like it isn't it.

I wasn't complaining about gold cost, just showing the real money value for the items and how insane it is lol.

**Gaddy** · 01-12-2011, 04:30 PM

unfortunately, I have to agree with the sentiments of the original poster.

I've seen this this phenomena a couple of times in a couple of different games.

New content always "ruins the economy" but you know what? The "economy" doesn't matter, it's the game that matters.

**Cinco** · 01-12-2011, 04:30 PM

LOL @ Ruining the Economy for another group of players!

- Cinco

**Phaded** · 01-12-2011, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by supersteak

@Phaded

There is a reason why no1 wastes plat on gold....

I know this and would never purchase it. Was just putting real money value on it. Probably shouldn't have done that and just stuck with the forum nerf scream argument.

And it's not just the loot. Next they'll be a problem with this class, or this skill, or this and that. Can't please everyone, but the 5% always win...

**Phaded** · 01-12-2011, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

LOL @ Ruining the Economy for another group of players!

- Cinco

How is that funny? That was the argument yesterday that caused todays changes...

**Lesrider** · 01-12-2011, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Phaded

No clue. But changing a system developers thought was good two days later because a handful of people didnt like it isn't it.

I wasn't complaining about gold cost, just showing the real money value for the items and how insane it is lol.

Who says the devs didn't realize they made the mistake right away? They joked about it and wouldn't say much. I'm guessing they didn't want to tip us off that they were changing it, so we'd still have to risk whether or not to buy/sell the items. I made my choices, and undersold my rift set. That was my risk to take, and now I'll either farm another one or live without it. But to claim that the devs made the perfect decision and only changed it because a few people complained is absurd.

**Pharcyde** · 01-12-2011, 04:33 PM

Yes it is insane but it keeps the economy in check. Were lucky to even have a gold for plat option. Other MMO's, you buy gold illegally for almost the same or even crazier cash amounts.

Many people actually feel the way that the forum whiners do. They make up the population of the game. Many of the "unknown" players who are very casual basically hate anything they can't solo. Casual gamers make the Devs money in large numbers. Please them and its a nice paycheck for the devs. Only a very small percent of players get to that "extreme" level. Devs try their best to make the game enjoyable for extreme players, since they basically are the heart and soul of this game. But its hard to balance out profit from casual and enjoyment from extreme players.

Many extreme players are on this forum, very few casual. So thats why it seems like such a small percent of whiners.

**StompArtist** · 01-12-2011, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Phaded

How is that funny? That was the argument yesterday that caused todays changes...

You really think that 10 angry posters caused the update? I highly doubt it.

**Refriedchicken** · 01-12-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Phaded

How is that funny? That was the argument yesterday that caused todays changes...

Dude, he was joking.
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Platinum is high for a reason, (it's roughly .00003(cents) per 1 gold). If it was 10$ for 1M, the economy wouldn't exist, it would be like 5M for a Sunblessed Scimitar, who would want that?

I personally like feeling rich with my 15+M.

**Snakespeare** · 01-12-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Lesrider

But to claim that the devs made the perfect decision and only changed it because a few people complained is absurd.

^this .....

**Refriedchicken** · 01-12-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by StompArtist

You really think that 10 angry posters caused the update? I highly doubt it.

I believe we did.

If everyone was happy with it, do you think this update would have happened? lol

**Phaded** · 01-12-2011, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by StompArtist

You really think that 10 angry posters caused the update? I highly doubt it.

If there wasn't 10 threads about it, full of complaints, would we see todays update?

And again, it doesn't bother me its harder now or whatever. I got my gear and plenty to sell so I'm not crying cuz I didn't get a chance. Not trying to come off that way.

**StompArtist** · 01-12-2011, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Refriedchicken

I believe we did.

If everyone was happy with it, do you think this update would have happened? lol

I honestly believe it would have.

**Lesrider** · 01-12-2011, 04:38 PM

And btw, some of us, despite popular belief, do care about the game as a whole and not just ourselves. We weren't "complaining" about Monday's update because of how it affected our own bank account. What we saw was that it was destroying the game and giving people absolutely no reason to play.
They fixed it now to be more of what an mmo should be. I haven't tried the new caves yet, not sure I will. So can't tell if the drop rate went to the other extreme. But at least this new patch corrected some of Monday's mistakes.