One question...

**Beastlyness** · 07-24-2014, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by AppleNoob

Every level has trash talkers it just seems like 15 pvp has the most because it is one of the most played levels. The more people more chances of big egos.

Thats true, well said.

**Beastlyness** · 07-24-2014, 11:44 PM

Plus low lvl pvp always has those noobs that have just joined pl... :P

**AppleNoob** · 07-25-2014, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Beastlyness

Plus low lvl pvp always has those noobs that have just joined pl... :P

They arent noobs they are newbs. Noobs are the guys in pvp who need teams of 2 or 3 to kill one man

**Beastlyness** · 07-25-2014, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by AppleNoob

They arent noobs they are newbs. Noobs are the guys in pvp who need teams of 2 or 3 to kill one man

Same thing -.-

**Elegants** · 07-25-2014, 12:50 AM

Lol everytime about 51 pvp thread there will b always program,laar, rescind(idk who is he lul) and synfulnub commenting it pssh.

Anyway 51 pvp is amazing. U should try 51bird/bear first.

**Ssneakykills** · 07-25-2014, 01:32 AM

51 is becoming active anyway

**Motivating** · 07-25-2014, 03:39 AM

I level'd my rhino to 58 xD no idea why.

**programmed** · 07-25-2014, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by Elegants

Lol everytime about 51 pvp thread there will b always program,laar, rescind(idk who is he lul) and synfulnub commenting it pssh.

Anyway 51 pvp is amazing. U should try 51bird/bear first.

We da bes that's why

**AppleNoob** · 07-25-2014, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by programmed

We da bes that's why

You da only lvl 51 pvpers on forums dats why

**synfullmagic_23110** · 07-25-2014, 11:49 PM

Burds so HashtagUnderRated

**Rescind** · 07-26-2014, 01:36 AM

Nobody knows and don't need to know me in 51

**JTZ** · 07-26-2014, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Trenton

I'm pretty sure you have that switched

L16-L20 are only good rhino low levels

L56, L61, L66, L71, and L75/L76 are good levels for rhino

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I've seen some rhinos at 30 that can hold their own. Level 30 is one of the most balanced and high end gear is pretty cheap unless you count halloween shields.

**Rescind** · 07-26-2014, 03:17 AM

30 isn't very balanced at all. Warbirds literally do no damage to mages. Mages and bears are the dominant classes at 30. Sure foxes can kill mages but they get reckt by bears. Rhinos just mostly tank and try to run mana out. Bears and mages kill all classes fine with ease

**Impact** · 07-26-2014, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by programmed

Fox is so fun. It beats bears pretty quick if you max debuff skills. Bears get a ton of regen and foxes can make their regen become negative.

idk if its true but if u get negative regen, wouldn't foxes posion decrease hp?

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**Impact** · 07-26-2014, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rescind

30 isn't very balanced at all. Warbirds literally do no damage to mages. Mages and bears are the dominant classes at 30. Sure foxes can kill mages but they get reckt by bears. Rhinos just mostly tank and try to run mana out. Bears and mages kill all classes fine with ease

Res, 30 isnt the most balanced with birds and rhinos but, those too classes kill pretty much all but mages, at 51 what I dont like is beckon stomp auto nubs.... 0 skills needed...At 30 u need like 5+ skills to kill usually unlike beckon stomp auto auto gg at higher lvls.

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**Rescind** · 07-26-2014, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Impact

Res, 30 isnt the most balanced with birds and rhinos but, those too classes kill pretty much all but mages, at 51 what I dont like is beckon stomp auto nubs.... 0 skills needed...At 30 u need like 5+ skills to kill usually unlike beckon stomp auto auto gg at higher lvls.

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You're still downplaying the unbalance at 30. Sure you need 5 skills to win but 2/3 out of 5 classes can't really compete at 30.
At lvl51 all classes are able to compete although there is the beckon stomp SMS auto kills. I myself play warbird at 31 because I simply enjoy the playing as a bird. At 51 I mostly play as a bird even though I originally made a bear to go 51 without knowing the op-ness. At 51 I can kill bears and it is very annoying that I die beckon stomp SMS against a bear. Anyways I went off on a tangent. What I'm trying to say is that lvl30 isn't as balanced as you think it is. The warbird population is not getting any bigger since they find out mages are nearly impossible to kill and quit warbird.

**Impact** · 07-27-2014, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rescind

Originally Posted by Impact

Res, 30 isnt the most balanced with birds and rhinos but, those too classes kill pretty much all but mages, at 51 what I dont like is beckon stomp auto nubs.... 0 skills needed...At 30 u need like 5+ skills to kill usually unlike beckon stomp auto auto gg at higher lvls.

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You're still downplaying the unbalance at 30. Sure you need 5 skills to win but 2/3 out of 5 classes can't really compete at 30.
At lvl51 all classes are able to compete although there is the beckon stomp SMS auto kills. I myself play warbird at 31 because I simply enjoy the playing as a bird. At 51 I mostly play as a bird even though I originally made a bear to go 51 without knowing the op-ness. At 51 I can kill bears and it is very annoying that I die beckon stomp SMS against a bear. Anyways I went off on a tangent. What I'm trying to say is that lvl30 isn't as balanced as you think it is. The warbird population is not getting any bigger since they find out mages are nearly impossible to kill and quit warbird.

True 30 isnt as " balanced" as lvls like 51, but would you rather survive long enough to actually dmg your enemy a decent amount instead of getting 3 shot killed in 2 seconds, while your enemy dodges your attacks?

**synfullmagic_23110** · 07-27-2014, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Impact

Res, 30 isnt the most balanced with birds and rhinos but, those too classes kill pretty much all but mages, at 51 what I dont like is beckon stomp auto nubs.... 0 skills needed...At 30 u need like 5+ skills to kill usually unlike beckon stomp auto auto gg at higher lvls.

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They don't always kill

**Rescind** · 07-28-2014, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Impact

True 30 isnt as " balanced" as lvls like 51, but would you rather survive long enough to actually dmg your enemy a decent amount instead of getting 3 shot killed in 2 seconds, while your enemy dodges your attacks?

Isn't that the case for foxes at lvl30? For me when I use my bear I literally hs cb beckon stomp SMS and they're literally dead.
In many ways 30s is like 51s. Both are not balanced but 51 allows you to compete with all classes while 30s mostly 2 classes that dominate the rest while other classes barely can compete. 51 is even Better because birds can actually compete against bears and mages

**Impact** · 07-31-2014, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rescind

Isn't that the case for foxes at lvl30? For me when I use my bear I literally hs cb beckon stomp SMS and they're literally dead.
In many ways 30s is like 51s. Both are not balanced but 51 allows you to compete with all classes while 30s mostly 2 classes that dominate the rest while other classes barely can compete. 51 is even Better because birds can actually compete against bears and mages

I agree 51 is good because birds can kill, but its almost the same really, mages mostly wreck birds when they ms, birds can kill bears but bears kill bird more. At 30 a bird can get a mage 1/2 and can kill a bear through kiting since they don't got 50 dodge. But at 30 u need to land your debuffs and stun skills to kill your opponent, I just don't like the unskilled beckon stomp sms spam auto of 51, if bears rage had a nerf it would be a different story.