One question...

[synfullmagic_23110]

, I just don't like the unskilled beckon stomp sms spam auto of 51, if bears rage had a nerf it would be a different story.

That's why u have to debuff them

[Openi]

I recently went to 51 from 22 on my fox, and for those saying foxes get beckon stomp SMS and then dead are completely incorrect. You have to realize, yes. Unbuffed fox would die. But with rs set + bow and buffs you're around 50 dodge, what's the likely hood of hitting those skills successfully? Not likely. And then with ff sword and shield I'm at around 60 dodge, its "almost" impossible to hit those skills successfully and if so, they should dodge many of the autos still tanking. And then add on howls debuff at 6, -42 DMG. No that isn't a lot compared to some debuffs, but could come in handy.Those rating survivability are most that judge a book by its cover or don't know how to play that skill set.
I believe, after playing 10-20-30-40-70 brackets, 50 is most balanced.

[Depury]

Yes it's active, and bear is annoyingly op cuz dodge and no-skills combo that 1 shots mages, use sewer king, and 56s only rush you if you have a bad set. 61s rush you if their ego is big enough (which it usually is) add me: mydadsapizza --- death shotty mage.

[mynamesjay]

I believe it used to be active but now not to many games open

[Laar]

Isn't that the case for foxes at lvl30? For me when I use my bear I literally hs cb beckon stomp SMS and they're literally dead.
In many ways 30s is like 51s. Both are not balanced but 51 allows you to compete with all classes while 30s mostly 2 classes that dominate the rest while other classes barely can compete. 51 is even Better because birds can actually compete against bears and mages

I agree 51 is good because birds can kill, but its almost the same really, mages mostly wreck birds when they ms, birds can kill bears but bears kill bird more. At 30 a bird can get a mage 1/2 and can kill a bear through kiting since they don't got 50 dodge. But at 30 u need to land your debuffs and stun skills to kill your opponent, I just don't like the unskilled beckon stomp sms spam auto of 51, if bears rage had a nerf it would be a different story.

Do you even play at 51?

Birds are probably one of the hardest opponents a mage can face (besides bears), because they have so much damage and they can break the MS. Although mages are equally as good as birds, it all comes down to skill.

The lack of hit% at 51 with bears (compared with other levels, like 56) makes them weaker, although they are still the strongest class. Sure, they can wear a bow and just Beckon - Stomp = dead, but they are so squishy against birds. Birds can Blind - Root - Shatter - Break - Blast, and it would most likely result in a death.

It might seem like I'm calling birds overpowered, but I'm not. I'm just stating that you know little or nothing about 51.

[synfullmagic_23110]

Do you even play at 51?

Birds are probably one of the hardest opponents a mage can face (besides bears), because they have so much damage and they can break the MS. Although mages are equally as good as birds, it all comes down to skill.

The lack of hit% at 51 with bears (compared with other levels, like 56) makes them weaker, although they are still the strongest class. Sure, they can wear a bow and just Beckon - Stomp = dead, but they are so squishy against birds. Birds can Blind - Root - Shatter - Break - Blast, and it would most likely result in a death.

It might seem like I'm calling birds overpowered, but I'm not. I'm just stating that you know little or nothing about 51.

Hehe

[Rescind]

Bow bears are easy to kill but talon bears.. They just hurt. They dodge and just pick at your hp with auto attacks little by little lol

[synfullmagic_23110]

Bow bears are easy to kill but talon bears.. They just hurt. They dodge and just pick at your hp with auto attacks little by little lol

Ohh m geeee ikr so tanky as poop

[Rescind]

For all those 51 bears out there. Please use bows on birds. We are too delicate for talons

[Reunegade]

Oh no! My sentinel has been exposed! Shut the front door!