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    Default A Follow-Up to the Nekro Questline Announcement

    Hello All,

    After yesterday's announcement of the new Arcane pet Nekro and the associated questline, we received an overwhelming amount of feedback and suggestions on how we might improve the experience for players. I'm here to tell you that we are definitely hearing you and will be discussing potential changes later today. I will leave this thread closed to comment and update it with any updates as I get them from the dev team. Thank you all for your feedback, and please stay tuned for news and updates!

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    Alright, after collecting all of the feedback so far and having a discussion with the devs, the following changes will be made to Nekro and the Undead Whelp questline:

    1) An arcane egg will no longer be required as a crafting component. This will be replaced with a different Arcane crafting component that is TBD.

    2) Nekro's stats will be re-evaluated to bring him more in line with existing Arcane rarity pets. New stats will be announced at a later date.

    And, on a related note, the development team will also take a second look at Singe's stats, and work to incorporate past feedback to bring him more in line with existing Arcane pets.

    This thread is now open for feedback and suggestions. As a reminder, please keep your comments constructive. Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remiem View Post
    Alright, after collecting all of the feedback so far and having a discussion with the devs, the following changes will be made to Nekro and the Undead Whelp questline:

    1) An arcane egg will no longer be required as a crafting component. This will be replaced with a different Arcane crafting component that is TBD.

    2) Nekro's stats will be re-evaluated to bring him more in line with existing Arcane rarity pets. New stats will be announced at a later date.

    And, on a related note, the development team will also take a second look at Singe's stats, and work to incorporate past feedback to bring him more in line with existing Arcane pets.

    This thread is now open for feedback and suggestions. As a reminder, please keep your comments constructive. Thank you!
    I suggest making the recipe a gold purchase item at around 50m and using an arcane shard as a crafting ingredient this pet will remain super rare for some time. Will provide a gold sink, provide additional motivation to loot shards, and keep other current eggs viable. Reduce the dmg stat to 15%. This will keep the new pet incredibly strong in comparison to other pets, extremely disarable but not overwhelmingly so. The total cost of this pet would be around 130m unless your lucky enough to loot a shard. To those that would say i want the pet i looted a shard but cannot afford the recipe, you can still choose to craft a ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remiem View Post
    Alright, after collecting all of the feedback so far and having a discussion with the devs, the following changes will be made to Nekro and the Undead Whelp questline:

    1) An arcane egg will no longer be required as a crafting component. This will be replaced with a different Arcane crafting component that is TBD.

    2) Nekro's stats will be re-evaluated to bring him more in line with existing Arcane rarity pets. New stats will be announced at a later date.

    And, on a related note, the development team will also take a second look at Singe's stats, and work to incorporate past feedback to bring him more in line with existing Arcane pets.

    This thread is now open for feedback and suggestions. As a reminder, please keep your comments constructive. Thank you!


    1) An arcane egg will no longer be required as a crafting component. This will be replaced with a different Arcane crafting component that is TBD.
    > who are happy: 1. Singe pets users 2. Other arcane pets users
    > who are unhappy: 1.Singe's eggs owners (who hoard, looted or bought the eggs). 2. Non-plat players (assume that the Arcane crafting component is from locked) 3. Who tried to pop tons of crates to find a Singe's egg and got nothing in good value. 4. HJ, glacian eggs owners who hope to be able to craft their eggs to a better arcane pet.

    2) Nekro's stats will be re-evaluated to bring him more in line with existing Arcane rarity pets. New stats will be announced at a later date.
    > who are happy: 1. SnS users 2.SnS's eggs owners. 3. Other Arcane pets/eggs users/ owners (not Singe)
    > who are unhappy: 1.Singe's eggs owners (who hoard, looted or bought the eggs). 2. Players who wanna challenge to get better Arcane pet than SnS 3.Non-plat players (assume that the Arcane crafting component is from locked) 4.Who tried to pop tons of crates to find Singe's egg and got nothing in good value.

    So from STS decision, we know which side they take, congratulations to:
    1. All arcane pets users (who didn't horad, loot or buy Singe's eggs).
    2. All arcane eggs owners (who didn't hoard, loot or buy Singe's eggs).

    Sorry to non-plat players, this decision is not made for you.

    <Buff this, Nurf that>

    "Nekro's stats will be re-evaluated to bring him more in line with existing Arcane rarity pets."


    "the development team will also take a second look at Singe's stats, and work to incorporate past feedback to bring him more in line with existing Arcane pets"

    > what if some players bought a Singe's egg for 30M yesterday, what kind of stats buff would deserve 30M? (I know STS didn't set the price, but its your announcement intentionally buff the price of Singe)
    > existing arcane pets are included HJ and Glacian???

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    I just love arcane pets, they are great, hope to see more...
    Thank you

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    Nice.

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    Maybe it's a noob question, but what is TBD?

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    TBD = To Be Determined

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    GF guys, GF

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    Glad you went with the only logical and smart two part solution. Hopefully the follow through is there as well.

    Those who say it cannot be done should not stop those who are doing it.


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    Yay! Sometimes we lose faith, but in the end I think you guys try to do the right thing.

    My one suggestion is make the new arcane element a very very rare drop in elite Tindirin(not in chests but as a legit drop). Elites are dead atm there is really nothing to do but pvp. This will bring elites back and give non-plat spenders a fighting chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raregem View Post
    Yay! Sometimes we lose faith, but in the end I think you guys try to do the right thing.

    My one suggestion is make the new arcane element a very very rare drop in elite Tindirin(not in chests but as a legit drop). Elites are dead atm there is really nothing to do but pvp. This will bring elites back and give non-plat spenders a fighting chance.
    Yes! Making an arcane pet which is avaiable to non-plat users would be great.
    You should make all the ingredients dropable in elites map, and the more easy an elite map is, the more rare the ingredients are.
    1. This should give us something to do in elites because, everytime i have free time for AL i would like to run elites maps instead of sitting in expedition camp/ paradise pier trying to make money.
    2. The last few events have been fun but, it gets boring over time. You can make this pet obtainable by a long quest or a hunt for peoples to do and have fun.
    3. Also, the last few events has include plat and peoples who are poor or has no plat can't get the good stuff up there. If this is made non-plat use, the poor would get richer and peoples would make better bonds with others doing the quest/hunt.

    We have spent tons of plats for you guys so you should make a fun event for us to do( Its equivalent exchange wait... This isnt a show lol) (:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raregem View Post
    Yay! Sometimes we lose faith, but in the end I think you guys try to do the right thing.

    My one suggestion is make the new arcane element a very very rare drop in elite Tindirin(not in chests but as a legit drop). Elites are dead atm there is really nothing to do but pvp. This will bring elites back and give non-plat spenders a fighting chance.
    One of the wisest things i have heard on these forums after like a year... -_- +50000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raregem View Post
    Yay! Sometimes we lose faith, but in the end I think you guys try to do the right thing.

    My one suggestion is make the new arcane element a very very rare drop in elite Tindirin(not in chests but as a legit drop). Elites are dead atm there is really nothing to do but pvp. This will bring elites back and give non-plat spenders a fighting chance.
    Best idea ever... I never pve but for an arcane pet, thats what we(non plat buyers) need, something to work to, a goal

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    Sounds promising. Glad to see that STS is listening to the feedback they receive. Now everyone can calm down lol.

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    Thank you huhuh

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    Wise decision. I propose we bring Singe back to the original stats, pre-nerf. That should suffice, he's potent enough already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madnex View Post
    Wise decision. I propose we bring Singe back to the original stats, pre-nerf. That should suffice, he's potent enough already.
    1. I agree with what Madnex says. No more needs to be done other than restoring Singe to what it was originally designed as.

    2. Please do not nerf the new pet too much. New pets should be better than older pets, it's a natural progression. I don't want Samael to be the best pet 3 seasons down the road.... which it will be if AL lasts that long

    3. Good decision on removing Singe. Original design had some similarities to mythic armor upgrade quest especially if people with Singe in stable were allowed to upgrade. People would then keep begging for more upgrades till we got a DINObot.

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