We will never get buffed in pvp. :(

[ColdBlahd]

Meh. Every Mage that is a legend. This could take a while lol.

Haha.

[Lidless]

Mage lightning crit 250% skill addon should stack crit like rogues aim shot does. And i think int should scale mage crit too and not dex. Idk that would give my mage an edge for pvp. My mage is weak without crit.

[will0]

My personal Thoughts:
1. Our shield should have deflect damage purpose when cast and lower CD time
4. Elon rifle needs to have a 100% charge process chance (roots) as per bulwark curse 100% upon charge weapon
5. lightning AOE yes ... it is useless now in new map it doesn't AOE unless the mobs are dying. Critical chance increase to 50%

"ice" skill should be root in PVP too not being nerf

Kershal should be buff further on charge skill to do more damage and protect (heals) caster from damage comes from rogues 1 shot combo kill (doesn't kershal circle effect is the same as bulwark? It should heal the caster too upon random process)

[ColdBlahd]

I was going against the grain before by saying that the mage did not need to be buffed. I totally changed my mind because of a post I read by someone (which I can't find the post now). This person was right, we're always complaining that the Bulwark or this or that is OP. Next week it will be a different weapon that comes out and we'll complain that it's OP also. These new weapons should continue to be better than the previous ones. Think about it, why shouldn't the Bulwark be better than the Glaive from last season? Why shouldn't it be better than the Maul (which got nerfed today btw)?

I am going to retract everything that I previously said in this thread and I suggest the following changes:

1) Shorten the cool down time of the shield by at least 10 seconds.
2) Change the multiplier on the shield so that it doesn't break so easily. Rogues hitting us hard before was bad enough but now warriors are hitting pretty hard and our shields are breaking easily.
3) Increase our damage output by 10% or more. Sometimes it takes too long to kill a rogue (or warrior especially) and by the time they're nearly dead, someone else will come along and make it 2v1. This happens pretty frequently and by the time the other person has joined, our shield is about to come down, pet is on cool down and our hp is less than 50%.
4) Warriors were mainly having a hard time fighting rogues before but skilled warriors were crushing most mages. I can see why they needed a buff. However, buff our elondrian rifle so that the shield buff on it grants immunity to bulwark curse. Believe me, warriors did not need this leg up on mages.
5) Last but not least (and my favorite suggestion) make the electrical discharge on lighting happen all of the time in PvP. We're an AOE class, so why should our best skill be the one to be limited to single target? There's a 20% chance (in a 4v4) or 50% chance (in a vs) that the troll takes this hit, which I think is weak. This would help us fight multiple warriors too. It wouldn't weaken mages who are fighting against each other because of suggestions #1 & 2.

This.

[Caabatric]

My personal Thoughts:
1. Our shield should have deflect damage purpose when cast and lower CD time
4. Elon rifle needs to have a 100% charge process chance (roots) as per bulwark curse 100% upon charge weapon
5. lightning AOE yes ... it is useless now in new map it doesn't AOE unless the mobs are dying. Critical chance increase to 50%

"ice" skill should be root in PVP too not being nerf

Kershal should be buff further on charge skill to do more damage and protect (heals) caster from damage comes from rogues 1 shot combo kill (doesn't kershal circle effect is the same as bulwark? It should heal the caster too upon random process)

Mages will be to op then...

[Bigboyblue]

I was going against the grain before by saying that the mage did not need to be buffed. I totally changed my mind because of a post I read by someone (which I can't find the post now). This person was right, we're always complaining that the Bulwark or this or that is OP. Next week it will be a different weapon that comes out and we'll complain that it's OP also. These new weapons should continue to be better than the previous ones. Think about it, why shouldn't the Bulwark be better than the Glaive from last season? Why shouldn't it be better than the Maul (which got nerfed today btw)?

I am going to retract everything that I previously said in this thread and I suggest the following changes:

1) Shorten the cool down time of the shield by at least 10 seconds.
2) Change the multiplier on the shield so that it doesn't break so easily. Rogues hitting us hard before was bad enough but now warriors are hitting pretty hard and our shields are breaking easily.
3) Increase our damage output by 10% or more. Sometimes it takes too long to kill a rogue (or warrior especially) and by the time they're nearly dead, someone else will come along and make it 2v1. This happens pretty frequently and by the time the other person has joined, our shield is about to come down, pet is on cool down and our hp is less than 50%.
4) Warriors were mainly having a hard time fighting rogues before but skilled warriors were crushing most mages. I can see why they needed a buff. However, buff our elondrian rifle so that the shield buff on it grants immunity to bulwark curse. Believe me, warriors did not need this leg up on mages.
5) Last but not least (and my favorite suggestion) make the electrical discharge on lighting happen all of the time in PvP. We're an AOE class, so why should our best skill be the one to be limited to single target? There's a 20% chance (in a 4v4) or 50% chance (in a vs) that the troll takes this hit, which I think is weak. This would help us fight multiple warriors too. It wouldn't weaken mages who are fighting against each other because of suggestions #1 & 2.

We definitely need a buff. You have made some good suggestions. I particularly like suggestions 4 and 5. I think they are very fair and need to be implemented. 1-3 may cause us to be OP in comparison to rogues. We don't have a real unbalance between the two classes at this point. Rogues can kill us if they charge auto, aim, sp and get some good damage. If we hit them with our charged fb first they are almost certainly dead. We could use a damage boost against warriors only though. Add 10-15% damage in all attacks that land on warriors only.

I've also seen people recommend mages be immune to movement impairment. I think that would work quite well. Rogues would still kill us with their insane damage bursts so it wouldn't really affect our current situation. Warriors on the other hand would now have to chase us down. Sure they have a couple of skills to close the distance but we will take off running immediately. I think this immunity would go a long way to closing the class gap.

[Stoba]

I see alot of posts about changing gear to do this or that. Gear comes and goes. Don't you guys think the focus of changes should be on inherent talents, not pieces of equipement?

[Instanthumor]

I see alot of posts about changing gear to do this or that. Gear comes and goes. Don't you guys think the focus of changes should be on inherent talents, not pieces of equipement?

You want to buff mages in a way that it won't impact endgame (level of balance is different), and gear is one way to do so.

[xcosider]

Lmao go endgame vs warior with ring+bulwark and show me

[Newcomx]

I've seen several talented mages in pvp, but none of the them in the Top 20 PvP Kills. This is proof that mage need improvement.

[xcosider]

Hey guys. I'd love to hear your suggestions on this. What kind of buffs would you add to mages in PvP to help them along a bit? Let's keep the discussion constructive and productive and It'll give me something concrete to pass along to the devs. Just a simple "Buff mages" is a little vague to act on. What do those little blue guys need to give them a fighting chance?

Gather some players who agree whith u

[Nesox]

Although the Elon Nerf IS a slap in the face, given how long it took to fix issues like the Maul, lets not forget that the real issue here is one of Skill/Health/Armor mechanics. Specific gear is not the cause, nor the fix for our class weakness.

[kinzmet]

Now at 9th page and still counting.

[Zeus]

The nerf is a hoax. It still works just fine in game so root away and shhh!

[Soulcentral]

Mages should be given the following upgrades:

+Dmg Buff So we Can kill Rogue and Warrior too
* And some armor so we have a chance at surviving Rogues Storm Shot and Warriors Auto Sword Swing Thing.


*~
At the moment we have only rubber bullets which is only effective in PVE.
And plastic sheeting around us.
*

[Ubernewber]

Mages should be given the following upgrades:

+Dmg Buff So we Can kill Rogue and Warrior too
* And some armor so we have a chance at surviving Rogues Storm Shot and Warriors Auto Sword Swing Thing.


*~
At the moment we have only rubber bullets which is only effective in PVE.
And plastic sheeting around us.
*

This guy usually talks nonsense but I'm with him on this one

[Caabatric]

Mages should be given the following upgrades:

+Dmg Buff So we Can kill Rogue and Warrior too
* And some armor so we have a chance at surviving Rogues Storm Shot and Warriors Auto Sword Swing Thing.


*~
At the moment we have only rubber bullets which is only effective in PVE.
And plastic sheeting around us.
*

Lol we are told we can harness the "magic" of arlor

[kinzmet]

Mages should be given the following upgrades:

+Dmg Buff So we Can kill Rogue and Warrior too
* And some armor so we have a chance at surviving Rogues Storm Shot and Warriors Auto Sword Swing Thing.


*~
At the moment we have only rubber bullets which is only effective in PVE.
And plastic sheeting around us.
*

I don't think we cant survive Rogue's storm shot(I don't even think Rogues use that skill on PVP), what we can't survive however is the insane crit from Aimshot.
The so called auto sword swing in warriors is Chest splitter skill, its really a problem because it is the strongest attack skill of warrior and it had a chance to cancel charged-up skill/attack.

[Arpluvial]

Hey guys!

We really want to hear all of your constructive feedback on the class balance, so please head over to this thread and let us know what you think: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...-Class-Balance

[kinzmet]

Hey guys!

We really want to hear all of your constructive feedback on the class balance, so please head over to this thread and let us know what you think: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...-Class-Balance

Thanks! Request to close thread then.