What is going on?

[Anarchist]

Enhance Your Passivity

[Gorecaster]

Well if you read your post you'll see you're telling someone or everyone in general to...
Stop it, read your thread, wake up, shut mouth, start fresh, get head together...
Your entire post is aimed at telling the forumer what you feel they should do. Right?

[Jiarijiba]

Save me a seat next week. (':

LOL guys.

[obee]

Well if you read your post you'll see you're telling someone or everyone in general to...
Stop it, read your thread, wake up, shut mouth, start fresh, get head together...
Your entire post is aimed at telling the forumer what you feel they should do. Right?

It's common sense dude.

[FluffNStuff]

It seems like everytime someone makes a new idea, people keep mocking and criticizing it! EVERYONE STOP IT! Right now! This is getting annoying! For real! Why can't we just work together and make new ideas. PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS THREAD. Wake up to your dam sense and stop this freaking nonsense. Forums is a dark place because some of you can't keep your mouths shut sometimes! Honestly! I don't care if this thread makes people mad! People need to stop. START FRESH! Yes we are human. But humans have common sense. People are quitting because of this. Everyone has a right to post. Don't mock people or criticize them, or provoke them. I'm fed up with it. You guys are mostly adults, yet sometimes you act like children. C'mon! Stop the madness, get your head together.

I am not sure how far you have gotten in your Social Studies classes and whether you are familiar with the term Lobbyist. It is a person or more often now a group that attempts to influence legislation to benefit their group. They are not inherently bad but they do have an agenda and that is to benefit a certain sector of the economy. When a player makes a suggestion about the game more often then not they are lobbying and have an agenda. If this suggestion is one that would benefit ALL players then this is generally welcomed by the community. If it is a suggestion that is designed to benefit a certain sector of the economy, then naturally the other players that are members of this sector will rally behind that suggestion and players that are not a member of that sector will attempt to lobby their own position. There is also the issue of the Vocal Minority vs the Silent Majority. The players on the forums are only the tip of the community iceberg, but they are the most vocal ones calling for different changes. The majority of players are currently in game playing the way it currently is and they are the ones most affected by the changes to the economy. it is the reason that all suggestions that are economy related need to be vetted to ensure that any good they cause will not be dwarfed by the collateral damage and this is done by players of all sectors challenging it to see if it stands up.

[Bigboyblue]

Obee, you're doing the right thing by making a post of this nature. Don't worry what anyone else has to say to you. This forum has turned viscous on numerous occasions. There is a civil way for people to disagree with others and work out their differences. What I have seen here is very unruly and not very civil. Attacks on people that as far as I can see have no basis. I don't understand why people are so mean at times.

All we can ask for is people to treat others the way they want to be treated themselves. If you don't agree with a post, that is completely understandable. Just add your two cents to the topic but please do so without slinging insults or putting people down. If you think you have a better suggestion make your own thread and see what the forum population thinks. It is not nice to hijack someone's thread and gang up on them. People please remember this is a game that is suppose to be fun for everyone. Let's try to keep everything a positive experience.

[acbarberi]

...haha

[obee]

I am not sure how far you have gotten in your Social Studies classes and whether you are familiar with the term Lobbyist. It is a person or more often now a group that attempts to influence legislation to benefit their group. They are not inherently bad but they do have an agenda and that is to benefit a certain sector of the economy. When a player makes a suggestion about the game more often then not they are lobbying and have an agenda. If this suggestion is one that would benefit ALL players then this is generally welcomed by the community. If it is a suggestion that is designed to benefit a certain sector of the economy, then naturally the other players that are members of this sector will rally behind that suggestion and players that are not a member of that sector will attempt to lobby their own position. There is also the issue of the Vocal Minority vs the Silent Majority. The players on the forums are only the tip of the community iceberg, but they are the most vocal ones calling for different changes. The majority of players are currently in game playing the way it currently is and they are the ones most affected by the changes to the economy. it is the reason that all suggestions that are economy related need to be vetted to ensure that any good they cause will not be dwarfed by the collateral damage and this is done by players of all sectors challenging it to see if it stands up.

I see nice explanation

[TheMightyFeusalet]

Obee for president!

[Crowsfoot]

I am not sure how far you have gotten in your Social Studies classes and whether you are familiar with the term Lobbyist. It is a person or more often now a group that attempts to influence legislation to benefit their group. They are not inherently bad but 1) they do have an agenda and that is to benefit a certain sector of the economy. When a player makes a suggestion about the game more often then not they are lobbying and have an agenda. If this suggestion is one that would benefit ALL players then this is generally welcomed by the community. If it is 2) a suggestion that is designed to benefit a certain sector of the economy, then naturally the other players that are members of this sector will rally behind that suggestion and players that are not a member of that sector will attempt to lobby their own position. There is also the issue of the 3) Vocal Minority vs the Silent Majority. The players on the forums are only the tip of the community iceberg, but they are the most vocal ones calling for different changes. The majority of players are currently in game playing the way it currently is and they are the ones most affected by the changes to the economy. 4) it is the reason that all suggestions that are economy related need to be vetted to ensure that any good they cause will not be dwarfed by the collateral damage and this is done by players of all sectors challenging it to see if it stands up.

I really like the explanation above. It is objective and doesn't give any game related examples while still supplying ample evidence. +1

That said, I would like to go more in depth with a few points, as numbered and bolded by myself above.

1) Any suggestion someone makes on the forums benefits them in some way. I have yet to make a suggestion that didn't help me in some way. However, it may be a buffing of another class (mages) for the benefit of making the game more challenging and entertaining for myself. When reading a suggestion it is vital yo analyze what the writer wants for themself.

2) there are two large forces on this one; Elite Farmers (Time investment) and Platinum Users (Monetary investment). Both recognize the purpose of the other, but usually want their chosen method to be strengthened no matter what. There are exceptions, but that is the relationship in theory.

3) This is a major issue. However, it is one we really can't address. There is no way to identify the views of the silent because they are just that, silent. Therefore it takes a large amount of support or Dev support to get a suggestion added to the game. Think of the Forums as the Legislative Branch and the Devs as the Executive Branch. We create many ideas but there needs to be majority aproval for a suggestion to move on and get Dev attention. Then the Devs can always veto the idea anyway.

4) Nothing to add. Just making sure people notice this.