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    Hello Arlorians. A few threads have popped up recently about the business of selling in-game names for gold, items, or worse, even real money. The question is..."Is this allowed?"

    The short answer is: No.

    Spacetime Games does not condone any sales or trades that do not fit into the consignment shop or trade window. The reason for this is that we created the trade system and the consignment shop to help to cut down on the possibility of scams in game. We are aware that there is a scam risk with any transaction, but using these systems not only helps players to be fully aware of the transaction they are taking part in, but it also creates logs in our system that the Support Team can use to help track items, investigate scams, etc.

    When you conduct transactions purely based on trust that the other player will honor their commitment, you are at a much higher risk for a scam and there is no way for our team to track the transaction to help you recover afterward. 9 times out of 10 they will not be able to recover your lost money or items.

    So, we ask that you only use the in-game features available to you for exchanging in-game items. And, if you do choose to take the risk in exchanging items or names for in-game currency without the safety net of the trade window or consignment shop, realize that you do so AT YOUR OWN RISK. Furthermore, these transactions should NOT be conducted in the Spacetime Games forums. The Traders Market forums are ONLY for trades that can be conducted legally using the trade window feature in game.

    Also, the more serious issue here is conducting in-game transactions for REAL money, in the forum of cash, pre-paid cards, cell-phone minutes etc. This is prohibited and is a BANNABLE offense. Do not take part in these transactions at all. Ever.

    Here is the bit of the Arcane Legends Terms of Service that explains this:

    (h) Account and Virtual Item Ownership
    You may not buy, sell, give or trade any account, nor attempt to buy, sell, give or trade any account. SPACETIME owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in game. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, or any other attributes associated with an account. SPACETIME does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything that appears or originates therein. You may not sell in-game items or currency for "real" money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the game.
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    Players looking for a cool and original name.
    Most of these names are reserved or taken from s1 players which are no longer active for x or y reasons.
    Sts does not give the chance to the players to actually use these names which are inactive for a year + and this is the reason why people selling names :^. This could easily be avoided but nope....


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    Finally sts acts against this, idea for jxmaa's problem is removing someone's name if he goes inactive for a year +, the character will stay only nameless.

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    I stoped playing arcane legends for about a year and a half because I didn't have the time and I recently started playing again (yes I'm a s1 player) and I would have hated it if sts deleted my chars just because I as inactive for a year +, it seems fair to the ppl who want the ign but at the same time it doesn't, you never know when former sts players will come back and play. I know for a fact I would've never started playing again if sts deleted my chars due to the fact that I had decent amount of money and vanities that are discontinued

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliB View Post
    I stoped playing arcane legends for about a year and a half because I didn't have the time and I recently started playing again (yes I'm a s1 player) and I would have hated it if sts deleted my chars just because I as inactive for a year +, it seems fair to the ppl who want the ign but at the same time it doesn't, you never know when former sts players will come back and play. I know for a fact I would've never started playing again if sts deleted my chars due to the fact that I had decent amount of money and vanities that are discontinued
    As i said the name should be removed the character will stay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurmans View Post
    As i said the name should be removed the character will stay...
    I was writing my reply I didn't even see your reply, and and it wouldn't be fair as some ppl paid plat to reserve their name for when arcane launched

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    Hi Remiem:

    I just started to play this game about 2 weeks. Luckily, when I am at lvl 9 , A guy walked by and asked me if i want some gold. Off course, I say YES Please. Then He game me 16.2m. LOL, I thought it was 16200 gold. WOW, and I asked why you give me that much. He said He quits this game. Not much new for him and he got a new born baby. My question is AM I VIOLATED THE TERM OF SERVICE AND GET BAN?
    Please let me know and can i allow to play. I buy a few mythic already. Or I can give back the gold to you??? I dont remember his in game name. Thanks
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    It is easy enough to see that someone hasnt been online for a year now and he has a lvl 3 account..it simply means the person ddnt like the game and left it without deleting his toon..they dont even remember the games name perhaps..its easy to remove the toons and let someone else have them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by newdayaaa View Post
    Hi REmiem:

    I just started to play this game about 2 weeks. Luckily, when I am at lvl 9 , A guy walked by and asked me if i want some gold. Off course, I say YES Please. Then He game me 16.2m. LOL, I thought it was 16200 gold. WOW, and I asked why you give me that much. He said He quits this game. Not much new for him and he got a new born baby. My question is AM I VIOLATED THE TERM OF SERVICE AND GET BAN?
    Please let me know and can i allow to play. I buy a few mythic already. Or I can give back the gold to you??? I dont remember his in game name. Thanks

    Hi newdaya,

    If someone gifts you a large sum of money, that is their prerogative. You have not violated any rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurmans View Post
    As i said the name should be removed the character will stay...
    That is quite rude to people Who are not playing anymore and return one day...

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    Once a name is mine it should be mine for LIFE. under no circumstances should a name be available again due to inactivity....
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    Quote Originally Posted by aarrgggggg View Post
    Once a name is mine it should be mine for LIFE. under no circumstances should a name be available again due to inactivity....
    Yes, I want to keep my names indefinitely. It feels too much like stealing to me, if STG just renames all of my toons because someone played too late. Veterans shouldn't be punished.

    My opinion for people who want unique names, use a thesaurus or a dictionary. The English language contains a plethora of awesome words.

    I recently created "Depreciated" and "Equivocate." Not that difficult, imo.
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    Wait, so we can trade usernames, except not in the trader's forum, and we do so at our own risk? Is that correct? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newdayaaa View Post
    Hi Remiem:

    I just started to play this game about 2 weeks. Luckily, when I am at lvl 9 , A guy walked by and asked me if i want some gold. Off course, I say YES Please. Then He game me 16.2m. LOL, I thought it was 16200 gold. WOW, and I asked why you give me that much. He said He quits this game. Not much new for him and he got a new born baby. My question is AM I VIOLATED THE TERM OF SERVICE AND GET BAN?
    Please let me know and can i allow to play. I buy a few mythic already. Or I can give back the gold to you??? I dont remember his in game name. Thanks
    Gratz on your 16.2mil

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    Lol 16.2m wtf youre damn lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newdayaaa View Post
    Hi Remiem:

    I just started to play this game about 2 weeks. Luckily, when I am at lvl 9 , A guy walked by and asked me if i want some gold. Off course, I say YES Please. Then He game me 16.2m. LOL, I thought it was 16200 gold. WOW, and I asked why you give me that much. He said He quits this game. Not much new for him and he got a new born baby. My question is AM I VIOLATED THE TERM OF SERVICE AND GET BAN?
    Please let me know and can i allow to play. I buy a few mythic already. Or I can give back the gold to you??? I dont remember his in game name. Thanks
    I mean sure, u can give me sum o dat ik i wouldnt mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jxmaa View Post
    Players looking for a cool and original name.
    Most of these names are reserved or taken from s1 players which are no longer active for x or y reasons.
    Sts does not give the chance to the players to actually use these names which are inactive for a year + and this is the reason why people selling names :^. This could easily be avoided but nope....
    Obviously cause they still play other games? I would hate to come back and play AL after a 1 year leave and see my names i had got in the Beta changed cause some selfish new player wanted it so bad they had to give it to him. No, its my identity not his. And sure everyone wants the name Bilionaire but nah i'm keeping it through my inactivity thanks.
     
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    "The Traders Market forums are ONLY for trades that can be conducted legally using the trade window feature in game." << So, is it mean that selling names in General Discussion or AL Fan Art are legal?

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    this means you can sell ign only in game with your own risk and sts cant help you if you get scam. selling ign in forums is not acceptable. now it's clear. thanks rem

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    Quote Originally Posted by razerfingers View Post
    Obviously cause they still play other games? I would hate to come back and play AL after a 1 year leave and see my names i had got in the Beta changed cause some selfish new player wanted it so bad they had to give it to him. No, its my identity not his. And sure everyone wants the name Bilionaire but nah i'm keeping it through my inactivity thanks.
    Lol the only one acting selfish here is u, a lot of online games delete your character's name after 1 year.

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