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    Default Having a problem with this PvP balance (str gear)

    I agree with Will.

    There are many things that could fix the balance of pvp. But we aren't asking for that. We are asking for the quickest and simplest solution.

    NERF STR SET

    We are willing to take baby steps with STS towards the rebalance but we need this first.

    I do have to admit the new int set gives me a chance of killing them but it's very minimal.

    If a toon wears a gear that isn't their class there should be a penalty. Like a pally should then have no mana or mana regen. With these sets there is no down side to everyone wearing str.

    I think that by nerfing str gear it will also reduce a lot of the trash that happens in pvp. Kids put on str gear then trash talk everyone, team and rush cuz they set allows them too. Yet they have no skills and blowoff debuffs and lighting at 20m. If they had to actually learn skills it would make pvp more pleasant.

    G and others, please don't reply that you will look into or you do care and are working on it if you don't mean it. Don't string us along please

    We are long time loyal players who ask for this. Please be loyal to us in return. We are not players who started last week and doesn't understand the game
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    Str sets rule basically all levels, I think that they could increase the effect of str on your skill damage, because pallies nuke too hard for str imo, even if they use half dex.

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    Expecting the thread to be closed, or for someone to copy and paste a "We'll pass this on to the devs" answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurikaz View Post
    or no reply at all

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    I don't need a reply from them. I just want to give them my thoughts, that is all.

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    Have to agree with this! This is part of the reason I rarely play today. Pvp is pretty dull with the Op L77 STR SET. Yes I can get a L77 str set and pvp but ill pass on the STR vs STR 15 minute fights.

    Simple Solution: Lower L77 STR set by 10-15 armor and 2-3 dodge
    Last edited by Bous; 10-15-2014 at 10:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bous View Post
    Have to agree with this! This is part of the reason I rarely play today. Pvp is pretty dull with the Op L77 STR SET. Yes I can get a L77 str set and pvp but ill pass on the STR vs STR 15 minute fights.

    Simple Solution: Lower L77 STR set by 10-15 armor and 2-3 dodge
    I don't think 10-15 armor and 2-3 dodge will quite do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    I don't think 10-15 armor and 2-3 dodge will quite do it.
    Atleast

    And don't forget the regen. 43 regen Is a bit cray cray

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    Can't believe he said 2-3 dodge will fix it
     
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    A str set nerf would be great but I can tell the amount of people that will moan what ever the outcome is

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    True ^^

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    Str sets don't need nerf, you just need to know how to play them. Of course angeldawn, a teamer/rusher with 3pc ring, who has no ability to play, can't beat str mages. I've seen a lot of 3pc int mages that beat new str sets sets fairly easily with int sets. Even 2pc int mages. U can 3 shot a pally as an int mage with the new sets, but thats not enough i guess. But ofc, cry more about str sets due to your inability to defeat them. Birds only have real issues with 3pc pallies. Unless they're bad. And a problem arises if int mages faces 3pc str set bears. I've only seen one int mage that can beat that kind of bear. Not me...This game is more balanced then most people say it is, yet i have been lead to believe otherwise, thanks to all the criers on the forum.

    And another thing, the new l77 str set has 15 armor extra over savage and +1 or +0, depending how ur stats are arranged dodge more than savage.

    If something needs to be nerfed, nerf the 3pc rings. Those give the real edge. And bird vs bear fights. Those are unbalanced for bird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dryraindrops View Post
    I personally think they shouldn't allow rings in pvp! If a dude has 3 PC and I got a plat ring at end game he could prob 2 hit me...i asked him to take ring off and he couldn't handle me I nuked him everytime..a ring shouldn't make a insanely huge difference as 3 PC and 2 PC does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marika1 View Post
    Str sets don't need nerf, you just need to know how to play them. Of course angeldawn, a teamer/rusher with 3pc ring, who has no ability to play, can't beat str mages. I've seen a lot of 3pc int mages that beat new str sets sets fairly easily with int sets. Even 2pc int mages. U can 3 shot a pally as an int mage with the new sets, but thats not enough i guess. But ofc, cry more about str sets due to your inability to defeat them. Birds only have real issues with 3pc pallies. Unless they're bad. And a problem arises if int mages faces 3pc str set bears. I've only seen one int mage that can beat that kind of bear. Not me...This game is more balanced then most people say it is, yet i have been lead to believe otherwise, thanks to all the criers on the forum.

    And another thing, the new l77 str set has 15 armor extra over savage and +1 or +0, depending how ur stats are arranged dodge more than savage.

    If something needs to be nerfed, nerf the 3pc rings. Those give the real edge. And bird vs bear fights. Those are unbalanced for bird.
    This made me chuckle at how oblivious you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marika1 View Post
    Str sets don't need nerf, you just need to know how to play them. Of course angeldawn, a teamer/rusher with 3pc ring, who has no ability to play, can't beat str mages. I've seen a lot of 3pc int mages that beat new str sets sets fairly easily with int sets. Even 2pc int mages. U can 3 shot a pally as an int mage with the new sets, but thats not enough i guess. But ofc, cry more about str sets due to your inability to defeat them. Birds only have real issues with 3pc pallies. Unless they're bad. And a problem arises if int mages faces 3pc str set bears. I've only seen one int mage that can beat that kind of bear. Not me...This game is more balanced then most people say it is, yet i have been lead to believe otherwise, thanks to all the criers on the forum.

    And another thing, the new l77 str set has 15 armor extra over savage and +1 or +0, depending how ur stats are arranged dodge more than savage.

    If something needs to be nerfed, nerf the 3pc rings. Those give the real edge. And bird vs bear fights. Those are unbalanced for bird.
    I'm sorry, but please try using something other than STR. We've been playing this game for 4 years, most of us at endgame, and we know "how to play them" at this point. It's still a 30% chance of us winning every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marika1 View Post
    Of course angeldawn, a teamer/rusher with 3pc ring, who has no ability to play, can't beat str mages.
    At first I was like:



    Then I was like:






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    I think its because HIT that given from stat its too much and its made creature called pally although its give benefits to bird cause more lv more stat more hit. Just look 51-56 the hit its pretty balanced, bear under 100 and there are no 200hit bird and pally will not be that op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescind View Post
    Can't believe he said 2-3 dodge will fix it
    The dodge would be less than savage. Lol

    #Nerf l77 str set

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    The lvl 76 cap we can say savage was op. This cap int and dex got a little boost but Str got a bigger boost. Imo the new str set shouldn't have more dodge or armor than savage.

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    Of course some clueless Str wearing person would make personal insults why hiding behind a name no one knows.

    You are wrong about me and clueless about sets.

    If int sets kill str easily why are their more Pallys than Int mages? Why is all of <Family> strong?

    Your anger seems to be with 3 piece ring which this thread isn't about.

    3 hits from a int Mage kills a pally? Hahahahaha

    With a pally having about
    46 dodge vs 12
    701 health vs 489
    332 armor vs 245

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bous View Post
    The lvl 76 cap we can say savage was op. This cap int and dex got a little boost but Str got a bigger boost. Imo the new str set shouldn't have more dodge or armor than savage.
    Theoretically birds suffered most, ONLY cause of l76 elite bow.

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