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    Default The Devs want all birds to DIE!!

    This is a small little rant about level 55 legendary archer gear and blah blah blah like it or don't.

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    There are three character types in Pocket Legends. The Avian, the Elf, and the Ursan. Now, each have their strengths and weaknesses, but I would like to address the nature of their defensive mechanisms.

    Avians: agile birds with thin, flexible armor so they can evade attacks with ease.
    Elves: magicians with magical robes which increase their magic capabilities
    Ursans: big burly tanks with heavy armor to protect their thick hide!

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    According to this definition of the character classes, we should see:

    1.) bears with gear giving heavy armor and adding damage due to their beastly plate mail, which probably has spikes on it or something like Batman's gloves

    2.) birds with qrmor that is mediocre, but allows them to dodge with ease and gives them the maneuverability to hit harder, more qccurately, and critically

    3.) mages with the lowest armor rating, but having enormous amounts of regeneration

    However, this is what we do see.

    Bears
    -heavy armor (duh)
    -damage addition (expected)
    -good h/s (makes sense)
    -the highest dodge rating in the game (wait WHAT!!! that's messed up. They're meatshields not ninjas!)

    Mages
    -pretty good armor. I mean, those robes are magical. Should be a tad lower tho.
    -damage addition (magic^)
    -M/s (good, could use some H/s and vise-versa for the craftable gear)

    Birds
    -the least armor out of the classes (not too bad, I mean, less armor = more dodge and damage right?)
    -a large chunk of hit%, crit, and damage (expected with low armor)
    -0 dodge (hold the phone. What???)

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    So, the main problem here is plain and obvious! The ninja class got their evasion taken away and given to the tanks, who already have the most armor and can do lots of damage with their custom gear. I'm completely fine with less armor given to Avians to balance their insane DPS, but it's ridiculous to take our main defense away. In maps full of explosions, bears can endure it. Elves can use their magic shields and heal. But birds? With the lowest armor and no dodge, they are often killed with one shot dispite activating our level 6 Evasion.

    In conclusion, I've presented the facts. I know the Devs are trying to balance the classes, but they're taking too much from archers and giving it to the tanks. Please consider fixing the problem.
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    agreed ^
    balance out the chars again devs
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    Though I think overall the rebalance was one of the best things to happen to this game, my least favorite aspect was dodge going from Dex to Str. It just makes no sense. Dex was totally overpowered and needed nerfing, but I'm not sure removing dodge as part of that was the best way to go. I think Str should add more armor (from attributes alone) than it currently does, and you should get high dodge from Dex and some dodge from Int (which make more sense anyway. Intelligent people know how to dodge, dextrous people just can, and strong people don't need to ).
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    Yea but us avians need the dodge
    say if your fighting a bear are high hit percent usually gets the work done against there dodge but if it doesnt they keep dodging and then when we hit there regeneration owns.
    atleats give avains some regen eh.
    lone is 56 and he only has like 9 health regen no mana
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    I think what they need to do is keep dodge high, just have some classes have more than others, since PvP is kind of, who can get there combo in first, I would like to see it require more skill and timing as opposed to who can nuke first, and balance that out with hit%. Just my view on it, but archer for sure need at least some dodge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    I think what they need to do is keep dodge high, just have some classes have more than others, since PvP is kind of, who can get there combo in first, I would like to see it require more skill and timing as opposed to who can nuke first, and balance that out with hit%. Just my view on it, but archer for sure need at least some dodge.
    That's a nice idea. Right now, dodge doesnt come into effect in pvp a lot, because birds have like 0 dodge naturally and there are so many dodge debuffs put there. They should add more dodge across-the board, making it a staple of survival on top of armor. Maybe 20 or so dodge to mages and bears? But at least double to birds. Come on, if we can't dodge, we're worse than ragdolls defense-wise.
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    I agree, the new armor for birds should have dodge to it. I mean, the definiton of dexterity is the skill in physical movement, and I would say that Dodge falls into that definition quite well.

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    You guys couldn't have said better, I totally agree with this.
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    I agree, but my bird is already dead :l

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    i wanted to bring my archer to 56 but i dunno if its worth.. :-/
    got a raid roach helm yesterday but i cant use when it hasl only half armor than void ;(
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    The whole all chars having 20 dodge base would mess up pve tho
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    Riccits I keep the shadow helm and bAsicLly forced myself to go back to talon/wing because I was sick of being paper.

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    Agree, birds need their dodge back. Didn't understand why it was taken away in the first place.

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    Agreed here also. Hard to give up my death set with talon, even with my 53 pink bow. (I did, but I die a lot more now.) I would switch to shotgun for boss fights to get the range and max damage though.

    On a similar note, of all my chars, birds are by far the thirstiest. Between health and mana pots, my archer sucks down way faster than mage can farm them. I had stocked up prior to the update and have gone through more than 1200 health pots (mage does use some of those too).

    It seems like my bear and mage can balance pretty well (with rift and shadow set respectively). They both do use pots for boss fights, but the bird just sucks em down non-stop. I think he needs an intervention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norbert View Post
    On a similar note, of all my chars, birds are by far the thirstiest. Between health and mana pots, my archer sucks down way faster than mage can farm them. I had stocked up prior to the update and have gone through more than 1200 health pots (mage does use some of those too).

    It seems like my bear and mage can balance pretty well (with rift and shadow set respectively). They both do use pots for boss fights, but the bird just sucks em down non-stop. I think he needs an intervention.
    I agree. Most bear skills take very little mana, so you're fine there. Mages have tons of and healing, so they use less pots. But my archer? Our skills use a healthy chunk of mana, as we constantly use all of them for max DPS.

    Geez, I've used thousands of regular pots to get to just 55. And at 1.5k per 100 in bulk, that's 30k per a thousand potions (mana and health, because I use both at about the same rate) I've spent over 100k on just mana/hp potions, not to mention the few hundred thousand on elixirs. Birds need 2M/s on each pink piece too. Good point.
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    we need dodge...
    or devs can give us regen and everyone will coward in fear
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    Agree 100%

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    then again, It's pretty fun just killing those unsuspecting mages with a one combo kill. But more dodge would make it easier..

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    There has to be something wrong when a fully dressed level 56 bird has ZERO mana regen.....

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    and 8 health regen......

    the first bear lv 56 will have like 25 of each
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