Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 38 of 38

Thread: lv 55 pinks worst stats then hate set???

  1. #21
    Senior Member Echelong's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Puerto Rico
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2
    Thanked in
    1 Post

    Default

    New sets lack hit, crit or damage depending on the set. You lose to much stats not only mana or health regen. For birds dps is a must but a dead mage is no good anywhere. I run BS with a group that consists of mostly level 55 players with level 50 sets and we clear runs in less than 5 minutes. Gear helps but it doesn't make the player. Its a simple game but one false move and you could get a wipe.
    Sig by KLEMEN
    IGN: E͡ℭ͟ӈҿͥ͜lͣoͫղg level 56 Mega Mage/Sewer mage ~ EchelongX lvl 55 Dex Bird

  2. #22
    Senior Member Moogerfooger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    2,142
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    103
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    133
    Thanked in
    76 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by giayuan View Post
    Give the devs time! They always correct their mistakes, unless these.. horrible stats are maybe.. ON PURPOSE?!?!
    I know, right? They unbalanced the sets, so you have to pick and choose which stats you want to focus on. No superduper overall combination :P
    Moogerfooger - Dex Bird | Moogerfoogerz - Dual Bear |Brutalityz - loser mage

  3. #23
    Member Ursanblessing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    65
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    the whole crafting is just the issue.
    Crafting should be that you can choose if you want m/s or h/s, not only h/s.
    There should be only 1 pink item for all 3 chartypes, and with crafting you can customize it for yourself.

    ANd i think the devs found out that they made some mistakes, and give us the RING
    Level 54 -- Level 07 -- Level 50
    Ursanblessing - Icannotres - Birdinpink
    Warrior --- Mage --- Bird

  4. #24
    Luminary Poster Ellyidol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Tyria
    Posts
    7,264
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    19
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    182
    Thanked in
    89 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Moogerfooger View Post
    I know, right? They unbalanced the sets, so you have to pick and choose which stats you want to focus on. No superduper overall combination :P
    Thats possible too. The current gear really emphasises on the pure builds.

    Bears tank, birds damage, mages support/nuke.

    Other than the small inconveniences like no ms, useless crafting stats, etc, it really forces players to mix and match.

  5. #25
    Senior Member Moogerfooger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    2,142
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    103
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    133
    Thanked in
    76 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Thats possible too. The current gear really emphasises on the pure builds.

    Bears tank, birds damage, mages support/nuke.

    Other than the small inconveniences like no ms, useless crafting stats, etc, it really forces players to mix and match.
    Bingo. Although I did craft a 55 Raid bow and got +2 dex and 6 h/s with no real hurtful penalty anywhere else, at least I have to chug a couple less pots along the way.

    I am hoping that there may be a crafted set bonus someday, kind of like the belated Shadow gear bonus.
    Last edited by Moogerfooger; 02-18-2011 at 10:24 AM.
    Moogerfooger - Dex Bird | Moogerfoogerz - Dual Bear |Brutalityz - loser mage

  6. #26
    Luminary Poster Ellyidol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Tyria
    Posts
    7,264
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    19
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    182
    Thanked in
    89 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Moogerfooger View Post
    Bingo. Although I did craft a 55 Raid bow and got +2 dex and 6 h/s with no penalty anywhere else, at least I have to chug a couple less pots along the way.

    I am hoping that there may be a crafted set bonus someday, kind of like the belated Shadow gear bonus.
    Dex has the best crafting option stats IMO. It doesn't make your Gear completely useless. Sure, lose a bit of damage per piece, but it's not taking away the essential stat which birds need, unlike bears who lose dodge for damage, and mages who lose ms for hs (weirdest one btw).

    I hope so too, and not too far away

  7. #27
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    289
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    Elly, the mana regen still sucks. Sure, 300+ DPS is nice, but when you have to pot or wait to regen it slows that way down. I think there are 55 pieces that mesh well with 50 pieces but you really have to be creative with what matters.

    Right now at 54, I have 250+ DPS and 117 Armor with a talon, while maintaining 9 regen for mana and health. I like my setup but it took some work to figure out how to maximize what I deem important. You can go full DPS or full Sentinel for regen and armor, I took the middle road and am pretty happy.
    Beefymeat - Lvl 55 DexBird
    Deiacev - Lvl 31 Vamp

  8. #28
    Forum Adept Kindread's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    San Jose, CA
    Posts
    421
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Default

    You guys complained before to make purple and green drops more useful and not inventory dumps and you got it. I agree that the Devs left much to be desired but I have to say, it's fun mixing and matching to get different results. Would have been nice if the pink, purple and green items looked different. I'm thinking there will be updates to correct the high end items and crafting so I'm still going to be working on collecting the lvl55 gear for my class and the recipes.

    --- Kindread
    Kindread - Lvl 56 Pink-Magnet ("Pink Taco!")
    Grendel - Level 25 Operative, Vicar - Noob Engineer, Emissary - Noob Commando

  9. #29
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    spinning
    Posts
    258
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    20
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    11
    Thanked in
    11 Posts

    Default

    I believe there needs to be some tweaks made to the stats, but overall, I'm sort of liking the general directions this is going. There is no one type of gear that is Teh Best -- it's all a matter of choice -- go for DPS gear with little regen and chug pots and maybe die a little more, or go for regen and do less damage but save gold and dying. Maybe some gear could have stats adjusted so they work better with duel-builds, while others favor pures.

    One thing I disliked about the lvl 50 sets is that there were a couple of sets that were clearly better than anything else, and thus everyone at lvl 50 got those sets. Everyone looked the same, and there wasn't any strategy in choosing a certain type of armour over another.

    In the future, I'd like to see this pushed further. It would be nice if certain types of armour worked better in different situations. It's old school RPG, but why not put more into elemental strategy? We already have fire/ice skills and gear, why not make bosses and dungeons that have weakness or strengths based on elements? Fire heals the lava boss, but Ice kills him faster. Maybe mix up a dungeon with contrasting elements: Ice kills that one, but heals that other one. You'd have to see some real teamwork and strategy to work through a dungeon like that! Not revolutionary, but at least it would give a reason for people to have different armour for different situations.

    And I'd like to see crafting with choices: Take this wand with decent stats, add a Gladiator gem that gets rid of m/s but gives you awesome DPS OR add a magic gem and lose some DPS but gain a lot of intelligence. Most of all, for crafting to work, you have to end up with gear that's unique in some way to drops, either you end up with something that has the highest stat in the game (while losing some other stat), or otherwise gives you some sort of advantage you can't get from a dropped item. Perhaps even give some sort of bonus to crafted items that nothing else adds, maybe a new skill or the ability to do a new combo. That would make crafting worth it.

    Mostly, it would be nice if you couldn't identify every level 55 in Balefort just because they're all wearing the same gear. And I think that's the point of the gear in this update.
    Last edited by Dizzy; 02-18-2011 at 01:45 PM.

  10. #30
    Senior Member Echelong's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Puerto Rico
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2
    Thanked in
    1 Post

    Default

    Yes dizzy you can't tell what they are wearing except for the weapons gem. And all helms look the same on your character no matter what type you are wearing.
    Sig by KLEMEN
    IGN: E͡ℭ͟ӈҿͥ͜lͣoͫղg level 56 Mega Mage/Sewer mage ~ EchelongX lvl 55 Dex Bird

  11. #31
    Senior Member Moogerfooger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    2,142
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    103
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    133
    Thanked in
    76 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy View Post
    There is no one type of gear that is Teh Best -- it's all a matter of choice -- go for DPS gear with little regen and chug pots and maybe die a little more, or go for regen and do less damage but save gold and dying.
    Can I get a Amen?

    Not to mention the regen setups have generally far better Crit.
    Moogerfooger - Dex Bird | Moogerfoogerz - Dual Bear |Brutalityz - loser mage

  12. #32
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    289
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    We got spoiled by Void/Rift/Cosmos and the Shadow gear. Now it's time to be creative and people are pissed that they don't just need to be pinked out to be the best they can. I have a orange talon and I really dont mind.
    Beefymeat - Lvl 55 DexBird
    Deiacev - Lvl 31 Vamp

  13. #33
    Senior Member Echelong's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Puerto Rico
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2
    Thanked in
    1 Post

    Default

    Not spoiled when playing any MMO the point of them is not reaching the last level since there technically isn't one. The point of MMOs is to build your character with the best gear and the skills you like. If you played for example WoW after you reached the level cap you will need to go run raids in order to get the best gear (no buying the best gear in the auction house) then when an expansion came the next gear would be a lot better than the previous one. Its always like that. Shadow gear gives more mana regen than you can use and a lot of mana regen as for death its better than void and now hate is slightly better than rift (imo).

    All I would want is for similar h/s and mana regen as previous sets and more damage crit, armor and dodge. This would make sets better every time without becoming useless stats.
    Sig by KLEMEN
    IGN: E͡ℭ͟ӈҿͥ͜lͣoͫղg level 56 Mega Mage/Sewer mage ~ EchelongX lvl 55 Dex Bird

  14. #34
    Senior Member Moogerfooger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    2,142
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    103
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    133
    Thanked in
    76 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shemron View Post

    All I would want is for similar h/s and mana regen as previous sets and more damage crit, armor and dodge. This would make sets better every time without becoming useless stats.
    Then there would be a Teh Best set, and it looks like the devs are trying to force people to pick and choose which stats they want to focus on. Kind of like the Do-I-Use-Thoth-Isis-or-Osiris days.
    Moogerfooger - Dex Bird | Moogerfoogerz - Dual Bear |Brutalityz - loser mage

  15. #35
    Guardian of Alterra Physiologic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    2,287
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    26
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    164
    Thanked in
    48 Posts

    Default

    71% crits w/ Focus on the lv 55 pink dex gear. That's insane, just sayin'. Sucks for mages/bears, but IMO archers have it pretty damn good despite all the other stat losses.

  16. #36
    Senior Member Echelong's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Puerto Rico
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2
    Thanked in
    1 Post

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Moogerfooger View Post
    Then there would be a Teh Best set, and it looks like the devs are trying to force people to pick and choose which stats they want to focus on. Kind of like the Do-I-Use-Thoth-Isis-or-Osiris days.
    What I mean was for each set to have different stats not only h/s and dodge and then the crafted set would have damage but lose the dodge. Each of the 3 sets would have a better combination. Like you said when you had to chose thot, isis ect. it feels a step backwards.

    I guess I will just have to trust STS to come up with something. Maybe they are busy with blackstar.
    Sig by KLEMEN
    IGN: E͡ℭ͟ӈҿͥ͜lͣoͫղg level 56 Mega Mage/Sewer mage ~ EchelongX lvl 55 Dex Bird

  17. #37
    Senior Member Moogerfooger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    2,142
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    103
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    133
    Thanked in
    76 Posts

    Smile

    Quote Originally Posted by Shemron View Post
    What I mean was for each set to have different stats not only h/s and dodge and then the crafted set would have damage but lose the dodge. Each of the 3 sets would have a better combination. Like you said when you had to chose thot, isis ect. it feels a step backwards.

    I guess I will just have to trust STS to come up with something. Maybe they are busy with blackstar.
    I think that devs did this on purpose, is what I meant...brought back the Thoth/Isis/Osiris-type combinations. There is no super set that has best dmg/DPS/dodge/regen/high-power cookie dispenser rate...it forces us to pick and choose which attributes we want to utilize. I personally like it, as mentioned previously we got spoiled with super-sets that were superior in almost every way. I can see why others don't like it, but I'm fine with it. Makes ya think about what to equip for a certain level, or boss, or in general
    Moogerfooger - Dex Bird | Moogerfoogerz - Dual Bear |Brutalityz - loser mage

  18. #38
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    434
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2
    Thanked in
    2 Posts

    Default

    I just find it odd that the pinks, which have a much lower drop rate, are sometimes as good as or maybe worse than some orange/purple/green. If it's just about variety and they're all equal but different....then make the pinks drop at the same rate. That or improve the stats to make them proportionate to their rarity.
    Kujen 56 Bird / Rahki 55 Bear / Silvanya 55 Mage

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •