Willing to bet 10mil Nekro buff will trash Mage buff

[Twix]

Mages already got their buff.. The reduce cooldown of shield 3 seconds and +10% damage absorb, and we are still weaker than deary zzz

[Kriticality]

I think it's a little more complex. What is the goal of the buff? Survivability against tanks? Just to throw it out there, even a 250-500 armor buff won't stop you from getting combo'd by a rogue. I think the purpose of the buff should be to make Mages more useful for team play in pve and Pvp. I'm all in favor of giving Mages freeze back as long as it can't be used to chain freeze. Replace knock back for movement impairment/stun immunity and increase invulnerability time slightly. To me this would be huge buff but nothing's gonna stop you from getting combo'd without your shield. Unless of course you got tank stats.

[Leonut]

I think it's a little more complex. What is the goal of the buff? Survivability against tanks? Just to throw it out there, even a 250-500 armor buff won't stop you from getting combo'd by a rogue. I think the purpose of the buff should be to make Mages more useful for team play in pve and Pvp. I'm all in favor of giving Mages freeze back as long as it can't be used to chain freeze. Replace knock back for movement impairment/stun immunity and increase invulnerability time slightly. To me this would be huge buff but nothing's gonna stop you from getting combo'd without your shield. Unless of course you got tank stats.

Spot on and good suggestions. But like all the really great suggestions made on mage, STG will just ignore it.

I read somewhere about the scissors will always ask the rock to be nerf and blah blah blah. It was quoted in one of the developer's sign off. But seriously I think sometimes they don't even know the game is really not a game of rock paper scissors but actually something else. It has to be since so many people are saying so? No? Even some rocks and papers even agree that the scissors is a joke and maybe its a ruler? Gasp!

I also heard some of them don't even play the game they design. *shudder* I hope that's not true.

[Wutzgood]

The way is paved now for Mage to get their freeze skill back in pvp. The immunity is set up and pets like misty and little bear can remove it. That's the only buff they need. If that happens nothing they add to nekro will be better.

[Haligali]

I think it's a little more complex. What is the goal of the buff? Survivability against tanks? Just to throw it out there, even a 250-500 armor buff won't stop you from getting combo'd by a rogue. I think the purpose of the buff should be to make Mages more useful for team play in pve and Pvp. I'm all in favor of giving Mages freeze back as long as it can't be used to chain freeze. Replace knock back for movement impairment/stun immunity and increase invulnerability time slightly. To me this would be huge buff but nothing's gonna stop you from getting combo'd without your shield. Unless of course you got tank stats.

Worry about mages can chain freeze in pvp, its like when owls are concerned about big-headed sparrows.

[Imjebus]

Spot on and good suggestions. But like all the really great suggestions made on mage, STG will just ignore it.

I read somewhere about the scissors will always ask the rock to be nerf and blah blah blah. It was quoted in one of the developer's sign off. But seriously I think sometimes they don't even know the game is really not a game of rock paper scissors but actually something else. It has to be since so many people are saying so? No? Even some rocks and papers even agree that the scissors is a joke and maybe its a ruler? Gasp!

I also heard some of them don't even play the game they design. *shudder* I hope that's not true.

If this game was like rock, paper, scissors, we'd be the scissors. Now scissors is suppose to beat out paper (lets pretend paper is rogues) and rock is suppose to beat out scissors. This isn't the case in AL. Rock and paper are somewhat even against each. Rock smashes the hell out of scissors and somehow paper is flicking scissors away.

[Leonut]

If this game was like rock, paper, scissors, we'd be the scissors. Now scissors is suppose to beat out paper (lets pretend paper is rogues) and rock is suppose to beat out scissors. This isn't the case in AL. Rock and paper are somewhat even against each. Rock smashes the hell out of scissors and somehow paper is flicking scissors away.

Actually for a proper mmo with a decent balanced pvp, all classes should be able to beat all classes if played well. Unfortunately this game could be build on a rock paper scissors concept because maybe they don't care about pvp and its pvp balance.

Now if the above is really their view / intention, then take pvp away from the game. Don't insult pvp. I'm a hardcore pvp player and this part of the game is dear to me. I'm sure those that feel the same will agree. A mmo without pvp is incomplete, and a mmo with an incompetent pvp system is garbage. This is my opinion.

[Zeus]

Verdict: Nekro is the mage buff. Get a Nekro.

Why:
- Stun immunity through shield
- Shield Damage Reduction Stacks with Arcane Shield Dmg Reduction
- Increased speed
- Terrify
- Slows others down
- Passive Stun


Everything sorcerer lacks. Get Nekro, problem solved.

[davidvilla]

Verdict: Nekro is the mage buff. Get a Nekro.

Why:
- Stun immunity through shield
- Shield Damage Reduction Stacks with Arcane Shield Dmg Reduction
- Increased speed
- Terrify
- Slows others down
- Passive Stun


Everything sorcerer lacks. Get Nekro, problem solved.

+1 And now mages with nekro r like son of a gun. Sweet but deadly

[will0]

play neckro as a toon delete mage if there's such an option ........ easiest ya right ..

[Leonut]

Verdict: hi Nekro is the mage buff. Get a Nekro.

Why:
- Stun immunity through shield
- Shield Damage Reduction Stacks with Arcane Shield Dmg Reduction
- Increased speed
- Terrify
- Slows others down
- Passive Stun


Everything sorcerer lacks. Get Nekro, problem solved.

Lol. Another hilarious one. Thanks for the laughs too.

I recalled someone complaining that they are giving mage skills to pets and denying mages the same. Now they gave this pet everything a mage needs. If this is not defiance to the mage race in AL, I don't know what is.

[kinzmet]

Verdict: Nekro is the mage buff. Get a Nekro.

Why:
- Stun immunity through shield
- Shield Damage Reduction Stacks with Arcane Shield Dmg Reduction
- Increased speed
- Terrify
- Slows others down
- Passive Stun


Everything sorcerer lacks. Get Nekro, problem solved.

Your right about the reasons, but its clearly not a mage buff we were expecting. It also buffs the other classes, we can't already stun warriors with juggs and rogues with razor now they added nekro. Its more of a mage nerf than a buff IMO.

[Tabeer Amin]

If mages are GOKU (normal form)
Den Nekro is ssj3 atleast
#dbzfan