Nekro Changes Discussion

**Carapace** · 01-19-2015, 07:01 PM

Hey all!

We’ve been listening to feedback about Nekro, and that feedback has brought me to some ideas on how to improve him. Let's get started

- Nekro's Happiness bonus currently provides +15 all stats, +20 to primary, and +6 mana regen. This is a bit broad and not quite potent enough compared to other arcane's, given his crafting component. As such I'm proposing shifting these to +10 all stats, +30 to primary, and +8 mana regen. This brings the total for the primary stat up 5 points, without overdoing the stat bonuses. There has to be some give and take in this regard.

- Nekro receives a higher base damage then other pets in the game, including other arcane's. The overall net is the raw value of his damage base increases about 15% over other arcane pets at his level. This value then scales into the other abilities and damaging attacks, including his shield buff. This is a COMPONENT of how abilities and effects damage and the like are calculated, so it does not implicitly mean that he will "just be stronger than every other arcane, period" as each ability for every pet has their own calculations of relevance. This serves to help his shield absorption, and overall passive damage.

- Nekro's lvl 40+ passive attack now has a 15% chance to stun. This adheres to the normal stun immunity in PvP

- Nekro's Activated Ability Cooldown decreased from 40 seconds to 26 seconds

- Nekro's Activated Ability now additionally provides players with a 30% speed buff for 5 seconds. The intent here is that the defensive nature of his shield buff combined with the speed increase should save your butt in certain scenarios. Note that this is 5% more movement speed than you can acquire from speed elixirs and would apply a small boost even with the elixir active.

- Nekro's Activated Ability now deals more damage, as a result of his base attribute increase

- Nekro's passive attack rate has been increased from 1 attack every 2 seconds, to 1 attack every 1.8 seconds

- Fixed a bug related to his lvl 20-29 passive damage skill not doing its intended damage calculation

thoughts?

**Appeltjes** · 01-20-2015, 01:41 PM

Did I just seriously read that you are planning on making his shield stronger?

May I remind you that we still have Scorch who can't even shield you from a brackenridge mob.

**Kain** · 01-20-2015, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Appeltjes

Did I just seriously read that you are planning on making his shield stronger?

May I remind you that we still have Scorch who can't even shield you from a brackenridge mob.

He has a point. My Scorch is level 22 and when it comes to doing a dungeon, it's shield goes away so quickly.

**Sorcerie** · 01-20-2015, 01:45 PM

Awesome! Maybe now all twelve people who have this pet will be pleased, LOL.

**Castellann** · 01-28-2015, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by arkanem

awesome! Maybe now all twelve people who have this pet will be pleased, lol.

lmfao

**Zeus** · 01-28-2015, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Arkanem

Awesome! Maybe now all twelve people who have this pet will be pleased, LOL.

There's much more than 12 people with the pet - you just rarely see it out and about because it's not the best choice pet to have.

People in Karma alone with the pet: Msmystic, Jane, Hell, Vsa, Sun, Beuefres. That's just Karma and I'm sure there are more Karma w/ the pet that I've forgotten. I think we've forgotten that arcane pets used to be rare - not everyone used to have one. Remember L31 cap?

**Sorcerie** · 01-28-2015, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

There's much more than 12 people with the pet - you just rarely see it out and about because it's not the best choice pet to have.

People in Karma alone with the pet: Msmystic, Jane, Hell, Vsa, Sun, Beuefres. That's just Karma and I'm sure there are more Karma w/ the pet that I've forgotten. I think we've forgotten that arcane pets used to be rare - not everyone used to have one. Remember L31 cap?

Orly?

Cause before the recent drop rate buff you reported only one coming out of an arena chest, so the rest came out of locked crates, and it's not like the fossil was dropping left and right like Maridos is currently - not to mention both the drop rate and economic issues surrounding the vials which further restricted the amount of Nekro eggs being crafted.

So I'd be surprised to know that more than 12 of them even existed in-game.

We all know there is a major difference between rare and reserved for the ballers only club, which is what this pet was before last week's drop rate buff.

**Zeus** · 01-28-2015, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Arkanem

Orly?

Cause before the recent drop rate buff you reported only one coming out of an arena chest, so the rest came out of locked crates, and it's not like the fossil was dropping left and right like Maridos is currently - not to mention both the drop rate and economic issues surrounding the vials which further restricted the amount of Nekro eggs being crafted.

So I'd be surprised to know that more than 12 of them even existed in-game.

We all know there is a major difference between rare and reserved for the ballers only club, which is what this pet was before last week's drop rate buff.

Msmystic, Jane, Hell, Vsa, Sun, Beuefres, Cranky, Gothical, Cranky, Avshow, Ardbeg, Maarkus, Smexyoka, L15 twink rogue (again, drawing a blank), Anduan, Asamaasada, Tongasmash, Lethaljade, Twoxc, Ravagerx (confirmation?), Davidvilla, me.

Again, this is just all I can remember atm. There's 22 accounted for (nearly twice of your current estimations) and I'm sure there's more out. You just do not see them being used because there are far better pets to use.

**Serancha** · 01-28-2015, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Msmystic, Jane, Hell, Vsa, Sun, Beuefres, Cranky, Gothical, Cranky, Avshow, Ardbeg, Maarkus, Smexyoka, L15 twink rogue (again, drawing a blank), Anduan, Asamaasada, Tongasmash, Lethaljade, Twoxc, Ravagerx (confirmation?), Davidvilla, me.

Again, this is just all I can remember atm. There's 22 accounted for (nearly twice of your current estimations) and I'm sure there's more out. You just do not see them being used because there are far better pets to use.

Ravvy doesn't have a Necro yet. He's slacking on his collection.....

**Ravager** · 01-28-2015, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Msmystic, Jane, Hell, Vsa, Sun, Beuefres, Cranky, Gothical, Cranky, Avshow, Ardbeg, Maarkus, Smexyoka, L15 twink rogue (again, drawing a blank), Anduan, Asamaasada, Tongasmash, Lethaljade, Twoxc, Ravagerx (confirmation?), Davidvilla, me.

Again, this is just all I can remember atm. There's 22 accounted for (nearly twice of your current estimations) and I'm sure there's more out. You just do not see them being used because there are far better pets to use.

Yes, I have.

**Sorcerie** · 01-28-2015, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Msmystic, Jane, Hell, Vsa, Sun, Beuefres, Cranky, Gothical, Cranky, Avshow, Ardbeg, Maarkus, Smexyoka, L15 twink rogue (again, drawing a blank), Anduan, Asamaasada, Tongasmash, Lethaljade, Twoxc, Ravagerx (confirmation?), Davidvilla, me.

Again, this is just all I can remember atm. There's 22 accounted for (nearly twice of your current estimations) and I'm sure there's more out. You just do not see them being used because there are far better pets to use.

Well slap me on the *** and call me surprised, lol.

Still though, this pet isn't nearly as attainable as pets past, here's to hoping we see more than 22 or so, lord knows the arena isn't dropping any.

**Visiting** · 01-20-2015, 01:45 PM

You're cutting his AA CoolDown in half almost? Don't you think that's a bit much?

**Sorcerie** · 01-20-2015, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ralchior

You're cutting his AA CoolDown in half almost? Don't you think that's a bit much?

40 secs was crazy long anyhow

**Visiting** · 01-20-2015, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Arkanem

40 secs was crazy long anyhow

True, but 29-30 seconds may be more viable for this pet's AA

**Sorcerie** · 01-20-2015, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ralchior

True, but 29-30 seconds may be more viable for this pet's AA

The AA is entirely defensive in nature, and judging from the way that Scorch AA behaves having a long CD for Nekro's Dragon Scales with a panic/banish seems like it would be a troll move, imo.

Look how many people are happy with their Scorch, js.

**Zeus** · 01-20-2015, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Arkanem

The AA is entirely defensive in nature, and judging from the way that Scorch AA behaves having a long CD for Nekro's Dragon Scales with a panic/banish seems like it would be a troll move, imo.

Look how many people are happy with their Scorch, js.

Scorch AA time should be reduced too imo.

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**Rx8** · 01-21-2015, 03:28 AM

Huh?....this is an over buff...cutt8n down the CD by nearly half? OMGGG....so i guess nekro users vs sns will be equal pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew to break that shield.

Hey! We have scorch too!

**Zeus** · 01-20-2015, 01:49 PM

Finally something that comes close to SnS. Thank you, STG!

**Appeltjes** · 01-20-2015, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Finally something that comes close to SnS. Thank you, STG!

Ur old sig was cooler :/

**Visiting** · 01-20-2015, 01:52 PM

Also, since the speed buff and elixirs stack, would it be safe to assume that the new Djinn pet's armor buff would stack with the armor buff you get when you stand in a rogue's veil skill?