Mages got TROLLED big time

[Kingofninjas]

I just wanted to point out the unfairness of necro buff. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy it got buffed and while it may be a little OP, I love it since its a great SnS counter. This is NOT a nerf thread. I simply wished to point out that it is very unfair to give a pet a stronger shield than mages have at the moment.

Lets compare the two shields. Nekro shield reduced 50% of incoming damage (stacks with mage shield and jugg) as opposed to the 40% absorbed by mage shield. Nekro shield gives stun immunity and mage shield gives an extremely OP knock back that completely annihilates enemies (sarcasm here ). Another funny fact is that both have almost the same cd. I think it is 28 seconds for nekro and 27 seconds for mage (please correct me if I'm wrong). Necko also terrifies 50% of the time and gives the user 30% movement speed. These are unrelated to the shield, but I brought them up to show how nekro is in a way better than the entire mage class. Between a nekro and a samael, a terrify is almost guaranteed, replacing the need for a mages fireball. The 30% movement speed is a great way to cheap shot (aka snipe) and run. Give Necro a decent curse and maybe some mana heal and we have an upgraded mage.

What I am trying to say that it is both ridiculous and unreasonably unfair for a pet to have a better shield than the class which has it as its main ability. Please bring mages shield on par with nekro's ASAP either by giving it stun immunity, a considerable armor/hp boost or both.

Thanks for reading and lets not troll please .

[Zeus]

I just wanted to point out the unfairness of necro buff. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy it got buffed and while it may be a little OP, I love it since its a great SnS counter. This is NOT a nerf thread. I simply wished to point out that it is very unfair to give a pet a stronger shield than mages have at the moment.

Lets compare the two shields. Necro shield reduced 50% of incoming damage (stacks with mage shield and jugg) as opposed to the 40% absorbed by mage shield. Necro shield gives stun immunity and mage shield gives an extremely OP knock back that completely annihilates enemies (sarcasm here ). Another funny fact is that both have almost the same cd. I think it is 28 seconds for necro and 27 seconds for mage (please correct me if I'm wrong). Necro also terrifies 50% of the time and gives the user 30% movement speed. These are unrelated to the shield, but I brought them up to show how necro is in a way better than the entire mage class. Between a necro and a samael, a terrify is almost guaranteed, replacing the need for a mages fireball. The 30% movement speed is a great way to cheap shot (aka snipe) and run. Give Necro a decent curse and maybe some mana heal and we have an upgraded mage.

What I am trying to say that it is both ridiculous and unreasonably unfair for a pet to have a better shield than the class which has it as its main ability. PLease either nerf necro's shield or buff mages shield to make it par with the level it should be. I would prefer the latter, or SnS will become the king again.

Thanks for reading and lets not troll please .

I'm confused...you say it's not a nerf thread but you ask to nerf Nekro (even if you did say you prefer the later).

Nekro shield is better in what sense? Stun immunity? Mage shield still absorbs considerably more - it's just that this shield grants stun immunity as long as it's in play. All STG needs to do is grant that aspect to sorcerer shield as well. The pet should stay as it is because as of right now, it's a very nice alternative to SnS.

I also know at least 4 people that opened Nekro due to this well deserved buff.


Grant sorcerers the same stun immunity that Nekro shield has? Yes, I've been saying this all along. Nerf Nekro? No. It's only pet that matches with SnS.

[gumball3000]

What if a mage uses nekro, doesn't that make him that more powerful?

[kinzmet]

Sorcerer is a new pet? Nekro is a new class?
No sorcerer buff is coming due to new season in horizon with possible skill system being updated.
When the skill system is updated, there a huge possibility that it will include the sorc buff there.

[Zeus]

What if a mage uses nekro, doesn't that make him that more powerful?

Mage with Nekro is a very powerful enemy to have, lol.

[Rx8]

Mage with Nekro is a very powerful enemy to have, lol.

Farewell samael...

[Leonut]

I just wanted to point out the unfairness of necro buff. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy it got buffed and while it may be a little OP, I love it since its a great SnS counter. This is NOT a nerf thread. I simply wished to point out that it is very unfair to give a pet a stronger shield than mages have at the moment.

Lets compare the two shields. Necro shield reduced 50% of incoming damage (stacks with mage shield and jugg) as opposed to the 40% absorbed by mage shield. Necro shield gives stun immunity and mage shield gives an extremely OP knock back that completely annihilates enemies (sarcasm here ). Another funny fact is that both have almost the same cd. I think it is 28 seconds for necro and 27 seconds for mage (please correct me if I'm wrong). Necro also terrifies 50% of the time and gives the user 30% movement speed. These are unrelated to the shield, but I brought them up to show how necro is in a way better than the entire mage class. Between a necro and a samael, a terrify is almost guaranteed, replacing the need for a mages fireball. The 30% movement speed is a great way to cheap shot (aka snipe) and run. Give Necro a decent curse and maybe some mana heal and we have an upgraded mage.

What I am trying to say that it is both ridiculous and unreasonably unfair for a pet to have a better shield than the class which has it as its main ability. PLease either nerf necro's shield or buff mages shield to make it par with the level it should be. I would prefer the latter, or SnS will become the king again.

Thanks for reading and lets not troll please .

Farewell samael...

In all fairness why should a mage have to buy an expensive pet to make up for its serious shortfall (notice I used serious shortfall)? It should be somewhat competitive as itself.

Once again another chance to rub it in STG's face. Please don't even dream of making a pvp orientated new title game. You are no where near that.

[davidvilla]

I just wanted to point out the unfairness of necro buff. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy it got buffed and while it may be a little OP, I love it since its a great SnS counter. This is NOT a nerf thread. I simply wished to point out that it is very unfair to give a pet a stronger shield than mages have at the moment.

Lets compare the two shields. Necro shield reduced 50% of incoming damage (stacks with mage shield and jugg) as opposed to the 40% absorbed by mage shield. Necro shield gives stun immunity and mage shield gives an extremely OP knock back that completely annihilates enemies (sarcasm here ). Another funny fact is that both have almost the same cd. I think it is 28 seconds for necro and 27 seconds for mage (please correct me if I'm wrong). Necro also terrifies 50% of the time and gives the user 30% movement speed. These are unrelated to the shield, but I brought them up to show how necro is in a way better than the entire mage class. Between a necro and a samael, a terrify is almost guaranteed, replacing the need for a mages fireball. The 30% movement speed is a great way to cheap shot (aka snipe) and run. Give Necro a decent curse and maybe some mana heal and we have an upgraded mage.

What I am trying to say that it is both ridiculous and unreasonably unfair for a pet to have a better shield than the class which has it as its main ability. PLease either nerf necro's shield or buff mages shield to make it par with the level it should be. I would prefer the latter, or SnS will become the king again.

Thanks for reading and lets not troll please .

Necroptic set from Halloween or????
Nekro pet u mean?

[kixkaxx]

I just wanted to point out the unfairness of necro buff. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy it got buffed and while it may be a little OP, I love it since its a great SnS counter. This is NOT a nerf thread. I simply wished to point out that it is very unfair to give a pet a stronger shield than mages have at the moment.

Lets compare the two shields. Necro shield reduced 50% of incoming damage (stacks with mage shield and jugg) as opposed to the 40% absorbed by mage shield. Necro shield gives stun immunity and mage shield gives an extremely OP knock back that completely annihilates enemies (sarcasm here ). Another funny fact is that both have almost the same cd. I think it is 28 seconds for necro and 27 seconds for mage (please correct me if I'm wrong). Necro also terrifies 50% of the time and gives the user 30% movement speed. These are unrelated to the shield, but I brought them up to show how necro is in a way better than the entire mage class. Between a necro and a samael, a terrify is almost guaranteed, replacing the need for a mages fireball. The 30% movement speed is a great way to cheap shot (aka snipe) and run. Give Necro a decent curse and maybe some mana heal and we have an upgraded mage.

What I am trying to say that it is both ridiculous and unreasonably unfair for a pet to have a better shield than the class which has it as its main ability. PLease either nerf necro's shield or buff mages shield to make it par with the level it should be. I would prefer the latter, or SnS will become the king again.

Thanks for reading and lets not troll please .

Sns's dmg pool is better than rogue's aim shot (the dmg pool now have 30% chance to banish when stack), Sns's heal pool is better than warrior's heal..... It's not about pet, it is Mage really need a buff : stun immunity when shield is on.

[Kingofninjas]

I'm confused...you say it's not a nerf thread but you ask to nerf Nekro (even if you did say you prefer the later).

Nekro shield is better in what sense? Stun immunity? Mage shield still absorbs considerably more - it's just that this shield grants stun immunity as long as it's in play. All STG needs to do is grant that aspect to sorcerer shield as well. The pet should stay as it is because as of right now, it's a very nice alternative to SnS.

I also know at least 4 people that opened Nekro due to this well deserved buff.


Grant sorcerers the same stun immunity that Nekro shield has? Yes, I've been saying this all along. Nerf Nekro? No. It's only pet that matches with SnS.

I said that I am not promoting a nerf by saying necro is OP. I'm stating that necro has a better shield that a mage and this is unfair. Also, mages with necro are not all that formidible. Sure they can still win in 1 vs 1 most of the time, but necro gives rogues and tanks an upgraded version of a mage skill. You saw while testing yesterday that the mage who was testing with us was dying after 2 combos from me, and I am nowhere near maxed.

I do not want necro to be changed. It reduces the 1 hit nonsense by a lot and has given sns some competition. Maybe I should have chosen my words better, but I don't think its fair that necro outclass mages.

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[Kingofninjas]

Necroptic set from Halloween or????
Nekro pet u mean?

please dont troll

[davidvilla]

please dont troll

It's not a troll. It's a wake up call for some correction.

[Kingofninjas]

What if a mage uses nekro, doesn't that make him that more powerful?

I find a tank with necro more formidible. If he rotates jugg, horn and necro shield effectively, like ravagerx does, it is very very hard to drop him. Alone, I doubt I could do it. Also, I don't think that a mage should have to dish out 30m to become an actual threat in PvP.

[Kingofninjas]

It's not a troll. It's a wake up call for some correction.

u really cannot tell? Please name one armor set with a proc, an AA, which provides 30% movement speed boost , that terrifes or has a cd.

[davidvilla]

u really cannot tell? Please name one armor set with a proc, an AA, which provides 30% movement speed boost , that terrifes or has a cd.

If u know then go for it. Why need to ask me?

[Kingofninjas]

If u know then go for it. Why need to ask me?

Because you are asking one of the dumbest questions ever.

[davidvilla]

Because you are asking one of the dumbest questions ever.

Or may be u r the one crying for another nerf like Zeus said. Ur not the only one who plays Mage class here. I play Mage and I own a nekro. And personally I love this new nekro with my shield side by side. I know mages need some buff. But relating it with a pet is not relevant.

Go ahead and bring snappy on ur conversation as well. It got some serious op shield too.

[BaronB]

I just wanted to point out the unfairness of necro buff. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy it got buffed and while it may be a little OP, I love it since its a great SnS counter. This is NOT a nerf thread. I simply wished to point out that it is very unfair to give a pet a stronger shield than mages have at the moment.

Lets compare the two shields. Necro shield reduced 50% of incoming damage (stacks with mage shield and jugg) as opposed to the 40% absorbed by mage shield. Necro shield gives stun immunity and mage shield gives an extremely OP knock back that completely annihilates enemies (sarcasm here ). Another funny fact is that both have almost the same cd. I think it is 28 seconds for necro and 27 seconds for mage (please correct me if I'm wrong). Necro also terrifies 50% of the time and gives the user 30% movement speed. These are unrelated to the shield, but I brought them up to show how necro is in a way better than the entire mage class. Between a necro and a samael, a terrify is almost guaranteed, replacing the need for a mages fireball. The 30% movement speed is a great way to cheap shot (aka snipe) and run. Give Necro a decent curse and maybe some mana heal and we have an upgraded mage.

What I am trying to say that it is both ridiculous and unreasonably unfair for a pet to have a better shield than the class which has it as its main ability. PLease either nerf necro's shield or buff mages shield to make it par with the level it should be. I would prefer the latter, or SnS will become the king again.

Thanks for reading and lets not troll please .

This is actually a great post and a point to make out.

For a start before any one gets wrong idea I agree keep nekro as it is ! Its had its buff now and it's also achievable pet to get for anyone as it is like it or not a farmable pet thats op.... yes farmable... Perseverance and patience...

However if sts are clearly able to make such fantastic shield (and also freezing) abilities to pets in the game... then why on earth is mages still running around with antiques.

As much as I and im sure many others love and appreciate the work put these fantastic pets, please dont let mages fall behind ability wise to pets otherwise next time I go to character select screen i would want to see a dragon instead of a little blue smurf there as a choice.

We our a minority in comparison to the pets in Arlor however have a right to be stronger then the pet compain we whistle for out the stable.


#loveofeverylorduptherepleasebuffmage

Necroptic set from Halloween or????
Nekro pet u mean?

If you had taken a few moments to read the posts you would could have deduced this.


The door is that way and please sir use it to return when you csn be a little more considerate.

[Leonut]

I just wanted to point out the unfairness of necro buff. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy it got buffed and while it may be a little OP, I love it since its a great SnS counter. This is NOT a nerf thread. I simply wished to point out that it is very unfair to give a pet a stronger shield than mages have at the moment.

Lets compare the two shields. Necro shield reduced 50% of incoming damage (stacks with mage shield and jugg) as opposed to the 40% absorbed by mage shield. Necro shield gives stun immunity and mage shield gives an extremely OP knock back that completely annihilates enemies (sarcasm here ). Another funny fact is that both have almost the same cd. I think it is 28 seconds for necro and 27 seconds for mage (please correct me if I'm wrong). Necro also terrifies 50% of the time and gives the user 30% movement speed. These are unrelated to the shield, but I brought them up to show how necro is in a way better than the entire mage class. Between a necro and a samael, a terrify is almost guaranteed, replacing the need for a mages fireball. The 30% movement speed is a great way to cheap shot (aka snipe) and run. Give Necro a decent curse and maybe some mana heal and we have an upgraded mage.

What I am trying to say that it is both ridiculous and unreasonably unfair for a pet to have a better shield than the class which has it as its main ability. PLease either nerf necro's shield or buff mages shield to make it par with the level it should be. I would prefer the latter, or SnS will become the king again.

Thanks for reading and lets not troll please .

@Davidvilla

OK. Chill bro. I think to him Nekro and necro is the same. The pet that is of more worth than a mage class.

So to help. For all future posts, Nekro or necro can be used interchangeably and they both refer to the Nekro pet we are so happy about.

[Kingofninjas]

Or may be u r the one crying for another nerf like Zeus said. Ur not the only one who plays Mage class here. I play Mage and I own a nekro. And personally I love this new nekro with my shield side by side. I know mages need some buff. But relating it with a pet is not relevant.

Go ahead and bring snappy on ur conversation as well. It got some serious op shield too.

I did not mean to ask for a nerf. That was more of a statement to provide drama and effect to the post. I have edited it and the spelling of "necro". Now please keep it constructive.