Most half decent mages at end game only use Lifegiver for farming easy stages if they still have it at all. By that time that skill slot is much better used for Shield or attack spells.
We all have access to potions so there is no excuse for begging for mana and doing so only marks you as someone to be ridiculed and blocked.
I am a rogue and when i see a mage with lifegiver (except in pvp) i kindly ask him to use another skill instead of it. If he does not i kindly thank everyone in the pt after the run is done and leave the said pt.
It is a wasted skill in pve and especially in elite maps. No need to use it. THose who ask for mana are probably new players and lack experience:-)
Tell them to GTFO. Mages arent mana machines...tell them to get their own damn mana.
Get rid of the skill if you have it. There is no need for it in pve. If you get a tank or rogue whining tell them to buy pots and then ignore them.
Tanks that whine about mana really crack me up. Most of the time they don't even heal their teammates unless they need a heal themselves. Not to mention the mana usage on tanks isn't that bad.
Rogues that beg for mana should remember they chose the class and it's not anyone elses responsibility.
I only heal when i need to. Others need mana? Idgas xD
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They could also use 4 attacks and you buy a few pots to help speed things up.
ty for response!
im going to stick with 4 attack skills and just use kongo to heal a good 4% mana c:
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I rather have 3 attacks and gale since hitting mana pots aint that hard as you think it is. And don't call other as useless since its an insult and dev should give you warnings for this.
Pots... I don't heal anyone, the slot is much better used for another attack skill. You will suck down more mana pots but you will be much better in the maps once you get used to no heal skill.
A good mage heals look at any rpg mmo the mages r the healers now in this game u can choose to have heal or not but if u do have mana also. Like above poster mentioned we all have the same tools so if someone shouts out mana or heal ignore them they should have pots like rest but its not hard to be a good mage and heal when needed without being asked it helps move team along. Not all mages have heal equipt and i get frustrated when i see a warrior or rogue shout heal when they can easily have their own heal skill equipt. On a side not dont ask any player to change anything based on ur own preferences every player is different and at end game most people who have played their toon for awhile is accustomed to playing their way and prob just as fast *most* its very rude to tell someone to play ur way unless u crwated the party or every1 discusses it in a random u take it as it comes.
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Whats the definition of good mage?
its not same in every situation and not to every person.
In pvp, you can say Mages are good when they heal because it benefits the team.
When it is pve, it doesn't benefits the team In my opinion. It benefits just the other player by saving their pots. Spamming pots is not very hard nor it affects the gameplay.
When we are full Rogues party we can spam pots fine. Why we can't when we see there is a mage in our party.
Lots of other Mmorpg games have more than 4 skills in HUD so we can get heal no problem there.
besides that a 3 attacking skill with gale mages are very good at fast run. Forget about Rogues, even warrior can run fast with their Skyward smash.
A mage without gale would fall back trying hard to cop up with their tiny legs lol.
A friend shared a tip with me:
A haunted ring plus a mana regen pet will save you from buying as many/any mana pots on easy farming maps like this one and WT4.
I use flapjack, jack, blight, horton, and, loki on rotation. (there may be others)
A tank with VB added to the mix should never need pots or mana heal.
As a rogue,I run out with some of the less good ones, but it recovers quickly.
It's tough to educate others sometimes, but this is one way to to curb mana begging I think.
As for those who beg mana, its nice when goofballs self-identify, so i am ok with it really.
Saves me trying to figure them out.
Do everything you have said you will do.
Do not encroach on the rights or property of others.
Treat everyone as you wish to be treated.
Lmao I would have expected this comment from a new player. Maybe you have never used a mage cause heal is the only useless skill a Mage has in his arsenal. Slowing the party down by bringing heal is a horrible decision.
Yes in other MMOs there generally are classes dedicated to healing and buffing the party, however in AL every class has a heal (none of which are advisable in endgame pve save for HoR) and mages are actually damage dealers/crowd control specialists not walking mana batteries for people who haven't figured out what those flasks at the bottom of the screen do.
Ok maybe "good" isnt best word so ill say a courteous mage. When i played as mage i would heal everytime i saw peoples health or mana down or try to save them b4 they die i would try to use while my other skills were recharging it never seemed to effect the progression on the map and most time helped because the healed player kept chugging along instead of going back to start but that is just for pve. If someone shouted mana or health I would usually leave because to me it was like a gift all players shoud have pots on hand because as a mage there was no1 there to replinish my mana.
How is Mages heal not useful? You call others out for being a new player yet you come out with things like this which makes me wonder
I didn't call him a new player. I know he's not. I just would have expected that comment from one.
Pvp is the only place mages should ever use heal. Bringing it in pve tho is wasting a skill and will just slow the party down. 2 of the upgrades just bring agro to you and are completely worthless anyway.
The only heal that should ever be used in pve is horn and that's for the shield it gives not the heal. Potions are much more effective for healing.
The heal of mages is just suck it only heals 60% of thier max hp and mana we have enof im using 4 attack skils sometimes 3 and with shield i dont have even heal just cuz its sucks in pve my frends never complain about me no having heal becaus they know its sucks
As a MAGE myself, I always heal mana and so far I see the healing skill of my mages benefit some players..It doesnt slows down the party but instead it saves some time for them spamming pots.I dont see why mana healers slows down the party cause instead it makes other players happy.If there is just one mage and 3 other different players (non mage), then just heal them up.When in pve, I used fireball, clock, gale force and heal because to me, mages are used in pve to slow and stuns mobs, and healing skill is to heal yourself and your party.And btw most mages doesnt deal much damage, aside from those mages who have 600 damage and above.If most of u guys say the healing skill of mages is useless, then ask sts to remove the healing skill.
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