Rogue 10% rebuff Nerf? More like 25%

[Theillist1]

I am getting more aggravated by the day about this nerf. I mean what is up with this? The first pic if u click on it is out of PvP. The second pic is in PvP. And the warrior pic is fully veng buffed.




It looks to me like a 25% debuff not 10%. This is a fully geared 2+ para rogue. I add one para gem to a half geared warrior and BOOM he got 122.6 damage. I'm feeling like how am I supposed to have any fun if I'm being screwed out of fairneness.



Mind this warrior only has one para... And not fully gemmed.

I would love to hear some feedback from someone at STS. (DOUBTFULL). But my guess, lips are sealed until they can figure it out themselves.

[Hail]

Well you see, In town you are not only having your normal damage - but you are also gaining the amazing damage buff granted by Nightshades happiness bonus.
Sadly, in pvp maps not only do we have -10% dmg - it also cancels out nightshades happiness bonus.
Debuffs override buffs remember.
So the large difference of our damage in maps and in pvp are due to the debuff and the lack of our pets % dmg bonuses.
Example with no pet:

[Arrowz]

Nope its still a 10 percent debuff. If it was a 25 percent debuff your dmg would be closer to 65 in pvp

[Appeltjes]

You lose pet dmg in pvp

[Farminer's]

Wait you lose all pet DMG in PvP to o.o

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[GoodSyntax]

All % buffs are lost when a debuff of the same type is in affect (which is the 10% DMG debuff).

So, without the 17% DMG bonus from Nightshade, your damage is probably 87.4 (87.4 * 1.17 = 102.258 [102.3])

Effectively, you are getting a 10% debuff on your base DMG of 87.4, which results in 78.66 [78.7]

[Wazakesy]

the debuff overrides a buff in any case. Be it using the buff after youve been debuffed. So basically the -10% damage nerf in pvp affects your nightshades 17% dmg bonues, so it becomes a -17% dmg debuff. Basically you're loosing 17% of your damage.

[Farminer's]

I think if rogues have this big of a debuff I think warriors need a debuff they have become to strong and having more damage in PvP then us rogue.

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[Earlingstad]

I suggest compensating a rogue's loss of damage bonus from pet with HP and armor in pvp till they figure out how to fix this bug.

[Theillist1]

Let's stop NERFING people. How about we Give Mages a 5%-10% Damage boost or Health Buff in PvP. Or both. Of course this would need some testing =]

[Kriticality]

It should be scaled. I think the debuff is important at end game but for twinks, it's way too much. The biggest difference being the frequency of crits at end game. I have 751 dmg as a rogue in PVE but 588 in pvp, this is with Nekro. My crit is still 48% so 588 raw damage with crit is still very hard hit.

In the photos above, if they had say ~40% crit, the damage nerf would likely not matter as much. At 13% and 5% tho, no pet dmg plus a 10% nerf is too much. Not sure how the numbers would work out but maybe
LVL
1-11- 2.5%
12-21- 5%
22-31- 7.5%
32-41- 10%

It does suck for people in game that aren't on forums. Buy expensive damage pet for PVP. Look at stats in PVP. Rage. Throw phone. GG

[Appeltjes]

Lmao, rogues are weaker than tanks? Lol crit and damage gems have made rogues way better than tanks, the only thing they lack is mana at lower levels...

[Farminer's]

Rogues have lower damage then tanks at lower lvls it sucks we need a small debuff or pet bonus fixed please.

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[Litheus]

Try being a warrior at lv41 and farm elites....then u will know what being feels like

[Farminer's]

I have a 41 warrior.

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[Hail]

41 is not on topic... lower levels are so what is the use in bringing them into the coversation...

[Arrowz]

Rogues have lower damage then tanks at lower lvls it sucks we need a small debuff or pet bonus fixed please.

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Lolol. I play at 17-18 and rogues can crit for 1k plus. Can mages or warriors reach anything even near that? No. So how do rogues have lower damage? And rogues have had this debuff literally for YEARS. Since season 3. And they have been doin more than fine. Rogues are easily the strongest class at this lvl.

[Farminer's]

The debuff has been here for a little while not year's... It was put out after I joined and I just hit my 2 year mark. Also lvl 9 PvP warriors have higher damage yes lower crit ofc. I have done 750 crits on my rogue with maridos.

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[Hail]

The debuff has been here for a little while not year's... It was put out after I joined and I just hit my 2 year mark. Also lvl 9 PvP warriors have higher damage yes lower crit ofc. I have done 750 crits on my rogue with maridos.

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It has always been there, however when %dmg was not shown on the stats page - this was debuff was not visible. There was a bug in which it did not apply to tdm however that was fixed long ago.

[Farminer's]

Hmmm weird I never noticed it then thanks for info I always thought was fairly new.

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