New endgame Warbirds: OP or not?

[Itoopeo]

99% of endgame PvP birds are pure dex.
The damage is high on pure dex birds, but it has its disadvantages. One biggest counter is called Beckon+Stomp or Ice+Fire.
Birds tend to take so much damage from AoE spells, that in teamfights they are literally feeding opponents with kills.

I have been playing around with my L73 Beastly warbird with my own personal build made for warbird only (It sucks for pure dex, since dexbird dies so fast I dont get the advantages off it.)
73 warbird is a decent matchup against 76/77 mages, birds, foxes, rhinos, dexbears.

77 Lust warbird however has more skill damage, more survivability and more health, dodge and even crit.
Damage is still higher than lets say pallys or bears can do, as long as you avoid hit% debuffs.
Bears are not considered as "OP" as many birds say, since as a warbird you can survive full beckon stomp sms combo and quickly regen back to full hp.

Warbirds playstyle is very different. I personally like to go to melee range when fighting birds and mages, but I avoid bears. I use Avian scream s part of my burst, not just as an escape skill. It also has a knockback so combining it with repulse is great way to keep foxes away or end dexbirds lives with a nice big throw.

I think everyone who has a 77 bird and str Lust set, should spend 4 plat and try to learn it. I say its as viable as dagger bears, if you use it right.


Share your experiences below people!

[Sheugokin]

99% of endgame PvP birds are pure dex.
The damage is high on pure dex birds, but it has its disadvantages. One biggest counter is called Beckon+Stomp or Ice+Fire.
Birds tend to take so much damage from AoE spells, that in teamfights they are literally feeding opponents with kills.

I have been playing around with my L73 Beastly warbird with my own personal build made for warbird only (It sucks for pure dex, since dexbird dies so fast I dont get the advantages off it.)
73 warbird is a decent matchup against 76/77 mages, birds, foxes, rhinos, dexbears.

77 Lust warbird however has more skill damage, more survivability and more health, dodge and even crit.
Damage is still higher than lets say pallys or bears can do, as long as you avoid hit% debuffs.
Bears are not considered as "OP" as many birds say, since as a warbird you can survive full beckon stomp sms combo and quickly regen back to full hp.

Warbirds playstyle is very different. I personally like to go to melee range when fighting birds and mages, but I avoid bears. I use Avian scream s part of my burst, not just as an escape skill. It also has a knockback so combining it with repulse is great way to keep foxes away or end dexbirds lives with a nice big throw.

I think everyone who has a 77 bird and str Lust set, should spend 4 plat and try to learn it. I say its as viable as dagger bears, if you use it right.


Share your experiences below people!

Str = Wimps

End of story gg.

[Groaning]

Str = Wimps

End of story gg.

Words of wisdom

[Ssneakykills]

Ya that very special 73 war build that is top secret because you never know when people will start playing 73 warbird as well


andi doubt a 73 warbird does well against 76/77 mages or bears

[anahadaz]

Str = Wimps

End of story gg.

No better way to put it.

[plpr]

99% of endgame PvP birds are pure dex.
The damage is high on pure dex birds, but it has its disadvantages. One biggest counter is called Beckon+Stomp or Ice+Fire.
Birds tend to take so much damage from AoE spells, that in teamfights they are literally feeding opponents with kills.

I have been playing around with my L73 Beastly warbird with my own personal build made for warbird only (It sucks for pure dex, since dexbird dies so fast I dont get the advantages off it.)
73 warbird is a decent matchup against 76/77 mages, birds, foxes, rhinos, dexbears.

77 Lust warbird however has more skill damage, more survivability and more health, dodge and even crit.
Damage is still higher than lets say pallys or bears can do, as long as you avoid hit% debuffs.
Bears are not considered as "OP" as many birds say, since as a warbird you can survive full beckon stomp sms combo and quickly regen back to full hp.

Warbirds playstyle is very different. I personally like to go to melee range when fighting birds and mages, but I avoid bears. I use Avian scream s part of my burst, not just as an escape skill. It also has a knockback so combining it with repulse is great way to keep foxes away or end dexbirds lives with a nice big throw.

I think everyone who has a 77 bird and str Lust set, should spend 4 plat and try to learn it. I say its as viable as dagger bears, if you use it right.


Share your experiences below people!

i thought the thread was a joke..

[Reunegade]

I stopped reading when it said Warbirds: OP.

[Sheugokin]

i thought the thread was a joke..

I thought so too, but I guess not.

[Waug]

STR bird is not op in general but as I say, killing.non str is easier with it.

and the birds who says bears r not op are those who play bear in their alt mostly or those who always fight someone hiding behind his str guild mostly. this is like a fam bear saying others 'str nub' u should rly ignore that.

If birds were op equipping str gear trust me u were not first to discover in june, 2015 and endgame would not b filled with str mages & bears.

In the fear of getting two hitter if you equip str, the dmg would b so low that u would not b able to kill str either. but getting str to srvive nothing wrong and you should ignore the hatters in such case. It's just rock solid hypocrisy to blame a bird being str whears the 90% endgame is str.

At last I'd suggest u to mix str & dex (dual spec) it's way better

[Sheugokin]

STR bird is not op in general but as I say, killing.non str is easier with it.

and the birds who says bears r not op are those who play bear in their alt mostly or those who always fight someone hiding behind his str guild mostly. this is like a fam bear saying others 'str nub' u should rly ignore that.

If birds were op equipping str gear trust me u were not first to discover in june, 2015 and endgame would not b filled with str mages & bears.

In the fear of getting two hitter if you equip str, the dmg would b so low that u would not b able to kill str either. but getting str to srvive nothing wrong and you should ignore the hatters in such case. It's just rock solid hypocrisy to blame a bird being str whears the 90% endgame is str.

At last I'd suggest u to mix str & dex (dual spec) it's way better

One post that I agreed with you on.

[Waug]

One post that I agreed with you on.

Then proly u could not understand the rest, or maybe I didn't explain like this one...

[Itoopeo]

Ya that very special 73 war build that is top secret because you never know when people will start playing 73 warbird as well


andi doubt a 73 warbird does well against 76/77 mages or bears

My build turns into 77 build when I just add 4 more points to repulse.

Not bears that well but mages are easier than as pure dex





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[KingFu]

My build turns into 77 build when I just add 4 more points to repulse.

+20 attribute points
+a 2pc/3pc ring
+a lust set, or at the very least, crafted bsm set

Oh ya, and ya know, being decent.

[Itoopeo]

Str = Wimps

End of story gg.

Joepally is a wimp? And Arsmage? Noooo.....
Your argument is invalid


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[Waug]

Joepally is a wimp? And Arsmage? Noooo.....
Your argument is invalid


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I just googled to know the meaning of wimp and found this the perfect word to describe em ow I dont fight ars, he s a frnd so Idk.

The way the whole guild not only him fight to me- tickle me and ran back to hide behind either guildies or tree, booting if its 3-3, holding spot etc etc

[anahadaz]

Joepally is a wimp? And Arsmage? Noooo.....
Your argument is invalid


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Yes joe is a 'wimp' because he uses the op gear in the game instead of int, because he knows he would get farmed by any other int or dex pvper.

[Reunegade]

Yes joe is a 'wimp' because he uses the op gear in the game instead of int, because he knows he would get farmed by any other int or dex pvper.

That's a bad mindset. One should not be called a wimp solely on the gear they wear, that's just pure ignorance.

[anahadaz]

That's a bad mindset. One should not be called a wimp solely on the gear they wear, that's just pure ignorance.

Well it is true in this situation since itoopeo seems to think that str isn't op/an easier class to use.

Loving that sig though.

[Itoopeo]

Well it is true in this situation since itoopeo seems to think that str isn't op/an easier class to use.

Loving that sig though.

Str isnt a class.





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[anahadaz]

Str isnt a class.




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I'm sure you knew what I meant. What would you like me to call it instead then, lol.