Jewels vs. Gems

[Zeus]

Hello Developers,

While I do understand that on a test server, things are expected to change...there was a quote that jewels are not likely to change in stats.


This is something that I covered in April. In order to prevent creating another 3 piece ring ordeal that plagued PL for the longest time, it is essential that the jewels be either equal or slightly better than gems like: enchanted eye of syrillax, paracelsus gems, or reinforced gems.


The game should progress - not be locked in a specific state for all eternity. Just as I expect SNS to be outperformed eventually (perhaps with the new arcane pets), the gems should also be eventually replaced with something better if jewels are really intended to replace gems. Otherwise, it just creates a grandfather effect where only those with vast resources win while those who do not have such vast resourced end up losing.


This is just my $.02.

Thank you for your time and input,

Zeus

[Matrimony]

I dont think jewels should nerf para gems, so w.e. sts does is fine with me. ^_^

[Zeus]

I dont think jewels should nerf para gems, so w.e. sts does is fine with me. ^_^

It wouldn't nerf para gems?

[davidvilla]

It wouldn't nerf para gems?

Limiting gems to old gears only will solve the entire issue.

[Bluebatthing]

How would it solve the issue? I assumed you're talking about para gems. If the new jewels are not comparable to para gems, the old gear with para gems, especially twink level items, will remain in circulation for a long time, that defeats the intention of STS trying to phase out the old gems. Sure, normal gems will be gone relatively quickly, but OP gems such as paras and Enchanted eyes won't be going anywhere any time soon.

Limiting gems to old gears only will solve the entire issue.

[davidvilla]

How would it solve the issue? I assumed you're talking about para gems. If the new jewels are not comparable to para gems, the old gear with para gems, especially twink level items, will remain in circulation for a long time, that defeats the intention of STS trying to phase out the old gems. Sure, normal gems will be gone relatively quickly, but OP gems such as paras and Enchanted eyes won't be going anywhere any time soon.

U want everybody by next event to run with maximum damage ?
Or better change the game name to sniper legends?
Dude in simple sense limiting to old gears will completely stop gemming those remaining para into new gears.
Regarding ur existing para gears, jewels will somehow cover it up followed by better gears will eliminate para.
Hope that clears u now.

[Zeus]

Limiting gems to old gears only will solve the entire issue.

No, it would not because twink gear is rarely updated. It would only be a half fix.

[Donquixoth]

No, it would not because twink gear is rarely updated. It would only be a half fix.

Yah, twink level have been broken. And not just that, some peoples out there still saving some para gems for future gear.. :/

[Niixed]

I noticed the same, but those numbers probably aren't the final numbers. The cracked chaos jewel is +.3 damage while the noble chaos jewel is +.6 damage? That just seems way off. The crit/lightning jewels don't even have a % stat listed, but list the same stat as the damage/chaos jewels. The int/mind dex/finesse and str/fury jewels are better than gems, and I suspect the others will fall in line. I also suspect STS had difficulty getting the test server online, it was delayed by a day. Maybe the "little" things like updating the Jewel stats got pushed to Monday? Idk.

[Fightbeast]

Agreed. Old gems need to be replaced by new jewels. If the same old items continue to be the best in game forever, people lose interest in doing or farming something new. Plus many players don't have a para stone or eye; bringing out new jewels will help even the play field.

[Jazzi]

I dont think those could be the final stats. I am not sure about the usefulness of those jewels at lower levels, but at endgame a player would get about twice as much damage by simply using a main stat jewel, thus rendering the damage ones obsolete before anyone ever looted a single cracked one

[Haligali]

At the current stats, damage jewels are useless, a noble fire gem will give more damage than this. Eye gems will worth 20m I'm not kidding, this will create a big gap between rich and average ppl.

[Niixed]

At the current stats, damage jewels are useless, a noble fire gem will give more damage than this. Eye gems will worth 20m I'm not kidding, this will create a big gap between rich and average ppl.

The damage jewel (and crit jewel) stats on the test server are clearly *not* correct. Don't you think it's a little soon to me making sweeping conclusions like that?

[Haligali]

The damage jewel (and crit jewel) stats on the test server are clearly *not* correct. Don't you think it's a little soon to me making sweeping conclusions like that?

Why are you so sure that they are clearly not correct? Carapace said that stats are final but may change, if we don't start to protest now, this will go live.

[Niixed]

Why are you so sure that they are clearly not correct? Carapace said that stats are final but may change, if we don't start to protest now, this will go live.

I replied on other jewel thread here.

[kixkaxx]

Hello Developers,

While I do understand that on a test server, things are expected to change...there was a quote that jewels are not likely to change in stats.


This is something that I covered in April. In order to prevent creating another 3 piece ring ordeal that plagued PL for the longest time, it is essential that the jewels be either equal or slightly better than gems like: enchanted eye of syrillax, paracelsus gems, or reinforced gems.


The game should progress - not be locked in a specific state for all eternity. Just as I expect SNS to be outperformed eventually (perhaps with the new arcane pets), the gems should also be eventually replaced with something better if jewels are really intended to replace gems. Otherwise, it just creates a grandfather effect where only those with vast resources win while those who do not have such vast resourced end up losing.


This is just my $.02.

Thank you for your time and input,

Zeus

Special gems will be back during holidays, so they should be better than jewl which you can obtain it as always. Also reinforced gems are much much harder to get than jews(whose ingredient drops from all mobs in Arlor). It doesn't make sense to have armor jewl better than reinforced gems

[gumball3000]

Hello Developers,

While I do understand that on a test server, things are expected to change...there was a quote that jewels are not likely to change in stats.


This is something that I covered in April. In order to prevent creating another 3 piece ring ordeal that plagued PL for the longest time, it is essential that the jewels be either equal or slightly better than gems like: enchanted eye of syrillax, paracelsus gems, or reinforced gems.


The game should progress - not be locked in a specific state for all eternity. Just as I expect SNS to be outperformed eventually (perhaps with the new arcane pets), the gems should also be eventually replaced with something better if jewels are really intended to replace gems. Otherwise, it just creates a grandfather effect where only those with vast resources win while those who do not have such vast resourced end up losing.


This is just my $.02.

Thank you for your time and input,

Zeus

100% agree with this, jewels should be better than para and eyes because normal players ike myself played the halloween event and got one para gem which is long gone by now but some people farmed 10, 20 or more of them and stashed them for later use.

Either you make jewels better than para or eye or you also make these gems buyabe with the new tokens.

[Maunyabastian]

I know STS do the right thing, just a matter of time. Later they will find a way out of these jewels issues.

[kixkaxx]

100% agree with this, jewels should be better than para and eyes because normal players ike myself played the halloween event and got one para gem which is long gone by now but some people farmed 10, 20 or more of them and stashed them for later use.

Either you make jewels better than para or eye or you also make these gems buyabe with the new tokens.

Para and eyes will be back, if jewl is better who will farm those events?

[Zeus]

Para and eyes will be back, if jewl is better who will farm those events?

Perhaps I am imagining, but I think developers said paracelsus would NOT be back? I may be misled but honestly, I think I came across this on forums unless my memory is playing tricks on me.