Please Explain What Has Happened With Crates

[Akatsuuki]

Which seems to suggest that you also control how many arcanes come into the game?

So true lol btw I just pop-up about 200 ren crates after posting my reply about 30-45mins ago, and look what I got , 3 mythic pendants that cost 19999 in auc and 1 Super mythic ring(out dated eversince decades ago )which roughly cost about 80k more or less .. Way back 5 days ago every about 50-75 crates that I open I get an arcane item ... Well still I wonder what happened STS??

[Jazzi]

So true lol btw I just pop-up about 200 ren crates after posting my reply about 30-45mins ago, and look what I got , 3 mythic pendants that cost 19999 in auc and 1 Super mythic ring(out dated eversince decades ago )which roughly cost about 80k more or less .. Way back 5 days ago every about 50-75 crates that I open I get an arcane item ... Well still I wonder what happened STS??

Wait what, the lvl 30/31 mythic pendants and blood rubies are still in the loot table?!? I saw the pendants in the vendor and was 100% sure that this was a bug. I mean who would use that when there is an abundance of cheap and much better choices

[Anyona]

Also we do have a front row seat to the birth of every Arcane item. We track them all to keep a careful eye on how many are coming into the game. Basically this is us:

This statement confirms that you control and alter the drop rates in lockeds.

[Magegrimm]

This statement confirms that you control and alter the drop rates in lockeds.

Maybe too much irony and we can't detect

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[conradev]

Also we do have a front row seat to the birth of every Arcane item. We track them all to keep a careful eye on how many are coming into the game. Basically this is us:

So does it follow that when there are too high a number looted you reduce the quanitity of Arcanes in the Ren'gol Crate loot table?

If yes, I'm sure you understand the ethical implications therein.

Can JustG touch on this subject?

I realize gaming laws vary State to State and are complex; and I'm not sure if spending virtual currency on alleged "chance" prizes would technically be considered gambling or not...but I know that if it is, there has to be expessed and unchanging odds surrounding it, therefore making changes without notification to the customer a crime?...or at least ethically irresponsible.

Please disregard if the quoted post was an arbitrary statement.

[BottleNexz]

So does it follow that when there are too high a number looted you reduce the quanitity of Arcanes in the Ren'gol Crate loot table?

If yes, I'm sure you understand the ethical implications therein.

Can JustG touch on this subject?

I realize gaming laws vary State to State and are complex; and I'm not sure if spending virtual currency on alleged "chance" prizes would technically be considered gambling or not...but I know that if it is, there has to be expessed and unchanging odds surrounding it, therefore making changes without notification to the customer a crime?...or at least ethically irresponsible.

Please disregard if the quoted post was an arbitrary statement.

nailed it....

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[Dex Scene]

Also we do have a front row seat to the birth of every Arcane item. We track them all to keep a careful eye on how many are coming into the game. Basically this is us:

Hello Gm, Remi and seo!!

[Bless]

Also we do have a front row seat to the birth of every Arcane item. We track them all to keep a careful eye on how many are coming into the game. Basically this is us:

In my 5 years of STG games/forums, that is for me the funniest thing a dev has ever said LOL

[Akatsuuki]

Four-thousand...

4000 is the number of crates I have opened spanning the last week.

Saturday:
I opened 1500 crates over an 18 hr period. My loot rate for Arcane was about 1 in 100 crates.

I looted approximately 2 Fossils, 8 or 9 Shards, 3 Maridos, 1 Toor.

In Between these loots, there was a steady volume of jewels (mostly damaged and weak) at a rate I would say was about 1 in 10.

It was enough to land me about 15m (I buy all my crates from auc)

Sunday:
I opened about 800 crates over an 18 hr period. My loot rate was 0 Arcane. I wanted to chop it up to bad luck so I did.

Monday:
By this time I had reinvest all my gold made prior into full-blown crate farming. Spent another $90 to open more.

My loot rate was 0 Arcane in about 900 opens. Not only was my loot rate 0, but I also noticed that my jewel loot rate had gone from about 1 in 10 to now 1 in 400.

There is no coincidence, at this high of volume the loot table was changed (possibly fixed to how it was supposed to be originally) however no mention was made about it.

I have never been shy about spending my money on this game, nor have I been shy to let people know how much I have spent. About 500k plat all purchased.

While I appreciate the addition of crate tokens, I don't appreciate my efforts and spending to be mislead.

With everything sketchy that has gone on in the past, I really need this to be addressed before I put another dime in.

500 dollars and I am back to where I started. Now there is something not ethical about that. There is no other game to my telling like that.

If there was a malfunction I want my plat credited back even though the loss has already been made as I put all the gold back into buying more crates.

If you're not willing to put a price on your best in game gear and pets in a dollar amount, if you are leaving it up to gambling you have to show numbers...odds. And those odds cannot change.

$500 and I should be able to directly buy something...but as of now I have nothing.

Opening crates daily and continuesly but for the last 3 days now only got 1 shard 1 toor out of about 600-700 crates I think drop rate went normal as it should be .. Im a bit happy tho but not about the prices of arcades still going down (maybe because of the lack in demand or a lot of players already have arcane ring eggs and fossils(nekro) anyway I wanted to ask this question .. How come this new crates has better odds like 100x than the older crates? I spend before 1 account with 40k plats yet not a single arcane compare to this new crates is this just a bug? Or definitely a fix update? Fossils are like once in a blue moon to obtain before even using govblin crates ?? Just wanna clarify things .. I'd love to hear a good response from a admin

[Jazzi]

Hm,

honestly I don't see how this is possible. I see how 1 person could be a statistical marginal case and get super bad luck, but in this thread there are several who claim the same and others who say they "heard" the same.
Even if all this were true and all those people would be getting terrible loot the last 3 days, apparently many others were looting many, because prices now are lower than ever.

[conradev]

Hm,

honestly I don't see how this is possible. I see how 1 person could be a statistical marginal case and get super bad luck, but in this thread there are several who claim the same and others who say they "heard" the same.
Even if all this were true and all those people would be getting terrible loot the last 3 days, apparently many others were looting many, because prices now are lower than ever.

This is not complete logic, the prices continue to go down for many reasons, the big two you overlooked though are hoarding from prior to the loot rate decrease as well as the buying and reselling from auction with gold.

[Jazzi]

This is not complete logic, the prices continue to go down for many reasons, the big two you overlooked though are hoarding from prior to the loot rate decrease as well as the buying and reselling from auction with gold.

I have thought about those two and some others as well, like market saturation or inability to use shard/fossil due to lack of gold to buy vials/bar/ and unfinished nekro quest. Those might all be relevant and without seeing game encompassing data they are all just conjecture. But hoarding? With steady price decrease over the last 2 weeks, why would anyone hoard? I really don't get it. I mean chances are u would make loss.

[Pivot]

zzz you don't need update to have it change like when the event cooldowns and when garetta was rebuilt just pointing out the facts

[PhoenixPrime]

Wait doesn't 4,000 crates mean 4,000 crate tokens?
After the first 750 or 1000, you could just go 'buy' an arcane from the token vendor.

On a side note, can we replace the lower level mythic items with something more useful? The Lv 30ish items have kind of run their course right now, shouldn't really be in the loot table for the Ren'Gol crates...

[Upperbound]

Guys. Just imagine how much money u spend on this "game" and what could u get for it (in terms of gaming). You could buy a ps4 console with all the best exclusives + big TV and have so much fun with high quality games instead of spending money in this buggy casino where noone actually knows the chances and droptables. I regret every cent spent on this "game".

Personally, i consider the hidden chances of dropping items for real money as scamming. Even casino and lottery have known and fixed chances.

[Devoleb]

Hahaha i really love seeing all the people here that reply to the post with the nekro birth picture and think its serious whahahaha this is pure sarcastic of him, i cant believe how ppl are taking this for serious??? I laughed so hard when i saw that picture and read the text... Common guys you REALLY dont get his irony? o.O maybe thats even more funny than his post hahaha

[conradev]

Hahaha i really love seeing all the people here that reply to the post with the nekro birth picture and think its serious whahahaha this is pure sarcastic of him, i cant believe how ppl are taking this for serious??? I laughed so hard when i saw that picture and read the text... Common guys you REALLY dont get his irony? o.O maybe thats even more funny than his post hahaha

Forgive my sense of "humour", the subject matter is serious, therefore we are taking replies from STS seriously.

[Caabatric]

Hahaha i really love seeing all the people here that reply to the post with the nekro birth picture and think its serious whahahaha this is pure sarcastic of him, i cant believe how ppl are taking this for serious??? I laughed so hard when i saw that picture and read the text... Common guys you REALLY dont get his irony? o.O maybe thats even more funny than his post hahaha

Blow over 100 dollars on a game and get nothing....
I remember whenever I see these type of threads I usually think "you know they say chance drop rate......"
Then i think about the amount of games that I spent money on just to see it goes free the next week and notice that I am pretty upset...

Think about blowing up all your money that you have right now on a broken ps3. you would be upset right.... this is similar to what the OP is feeling....
He has a right to demand seriousness from sts responses rather than have them joke at him for spending money on their game.....

[Bidiel]

"a crime?" come on, no one put a gun to his head and forced to you to buy and spend in this game, and GM was only sarcastic

[carmine_blade]

Is this a merch thread conrad, like your last one about the endless loop ring? Hmm.