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    Default SNS as a crate token pet.

    Firstly, thank you STS for finally allowing the rest of the community to have a chance at this awesome pet! It's greatly appreciated! Although semi not as OP now with stampy, many still want it because it looks great and highly useful in PVE!

    My only suggestion is to make this pet follow the new crate token system. Allow it to be purchased should people not loot one in over many many crates! I want to loot one, but would prefer a guaranteed system when I take out the credit card!

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    If sns will be a pet that can be purchased with crate tokens, it will become as common as Toor/Maridos. This way everyone will have it :<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graovans View Post
    If sns will be a pet that can be purchased with crate tokens, it will become as common as Toor/Maridos. This way everyone will have it :<
    It should be in there for a higher value. Here is the flip side. I am a plat spender and have already spent a large amount trying to loot SnS. There should be a cap on spending and if you drop 500 bucks you should be able to outright buy the egg with tokens if you were unlucky.

    1500 is my suggestion of the token amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candylicks View Post
    It should be in there for a higher value. Here is the flip side. I am a plat spender and have already spent a large amount trying to loot SnS. There should be a cap on spending and if you drop 500 bucks you should be able to outright buy the egg with tokens if you were unlucky.

    1500 is my suggestion of the token amount.
    Here's my take on it. I recently bought plat last weekend and was able to garner 500 tokens in 1700 plat. 1700 plat is roughly $95 w/ tax. So, I could get SnS in just under $300 with your proposed amount of tokens. Thus, I think 2000 tokens is more than reasonable. A player can still obtain it and it'll be less than 500 dollars as well (I believe).

    The other thing is, since it'll be a high token amount, there will be those who simply cannot save up to 2000 tokens so the pet will not be flooding the market just like every other arcane pet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Here's my take on it. I recently bought plat last weekend and was able to garner 500 tokens in 1700 plat. 1700 plat is roughly $95 w/ tax. So, I could get SnS in just under $300 with your proposed amount of tokens. Thus, I think 2000 tokens is more than reasonable. A player can still obtain it and it'll be less than 500 dollars as well (I believe).

    The other thing is, since it'll be a high token amount, there will be those who simply cannot save up to 2000 tokens so the pet will not be flooding the market just like every other arcane pet.
    This would work. The idea is to make the pet rare and not another Mari, so PvE isn't ruined...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhuntrazeck View Post
    This would work. The idea is to make the pet rare and not another Mari, so PvE isn't ruined...
    Just realized that they didn't put it in token vendor for a reason. People would not craft massive locked crates if it was available for 2000 tokens. 2000 regular rengol crates is much cheaper than trying to loot it in a massive crate.

    So, in short, this idea would not work or the token cost would need to be multiplied by 9?
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    It would actually be 3x because massive crate drops 3 tokens and regular does 1 and it takes 9. Sadly regular ones won't drop him, so maybe a 2x discount? Let's just make it 4000 tokens and call it a day!
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    I understand his logic actually. It would defeat the purpose of opening massives.

    That doesn't change the fact that the loot table is messed up. There should be at least 10 SnS eggs out there by now. There hasn't been one. I know they have gotten a lot of negative feedback about arcanes being too common, but this is ridiculous.
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    Well I mean, I personally don't think it should be 5k or 9k tokens or whatever. 2k tokens is alot as is. 9k would really just discourage from buying plat if the persons budget isnt enough. Anyways, sns owners ruled pve for over a year now. Didnt see the same owners with nekro also complain as much when it became common as well. Let everyone be able to get a sns, or have an opportunity for it. No one wants to find out that they have to spend around $1.7k for a pet(in the event they cannot loot one within that much money).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Coug View Post
    I understand his logic actually. It would defeat the purpose of opening massives.

    That doesn't change the fact that the loot table is messed up. There should be at least 10 SnS eggs out there by now. There hasn't been one. I know they have gotten a lot of negative feedback about arcanes being too common, but this is ridiculous.
    No. His logic is wrong. The eggs remain in massive but are also added to the token vendor. Rest assured both locked and massive value remain high because trust me when people open it will be massive in the chance they get an egg and don't have to go max Plat to buy the egg.

    Who in the world would open anything other than massive???? I'd much rather get lucky off an egg in there than be forced to shell out 500 bucks or higher.

    It's basically just a fail safe for the Plat players that will still get their pet even if luck doesn't go their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candylicks View Post
    No. His logic is wrong. The eggs remain in massive but are also added to the token vendor. Rest assured both locked and massive value remain high because trust me when people open it will be massive in the chance they get an egg and don't have to go max Plat to buy the egg.

    Who in the world would open anything other than massive???? I'd much rather get lucky off an egg in there than be forced to shell out 500 bucks or higher.

    It's basically just a fail safe for the Plat players that will still get their pet even if luck doesn't go their way.
    Frankly, the more SNS eggs out there, the happier I'll be. I don't want to have to come up with 90m to buy an egg.

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    The opportunity might be there. I'm not so sure. I'd like to see an egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Coug View Post
    The opportunity might be there. I'm not so sure. I'd like to see an egg.
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    So me and Candy had a phone call (she has a lovely voice, btw) and we came to the agreement that 3k tokens and a SLIGHT (& I do mean slight) bump in massive crate rate is the way to go. What do y'all think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    So me and Candy had a phone call (she has a lovely voice, btw) and we came to the agreement that 3k tokens and a SLIGHT (& I do mean slight) bump in massive crate rate is the way to go. What do y'all think?
    3k crate tokens seems legit. I personally don't buy plat, and I assume that this way more people will have a chance to get sns yet it won't be too common (like Nekro, toor, etc).
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    Two fold here. First the drop rate in massive is too low. Right now we are repeating the issue when shard came out. It needs a slight bump. Second don't drain the plat players by frustrating them by spending so much and still not having the pet. Add it in the store for more than toor/mari. You wont get people merching it but simply people who will open the egg.
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    I would like to hear back from sts if they intend to have sns added to the vendor.
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    So who thinks that this sns pet is as rare as shard once was?

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    at least dont make it as common as maridos toor samael and other arcane pet. I dont want to make the community flooded with sns.

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    Plat store purchase straight to stable, untradable and bound to Toon. Make the NPC one (perhaps 5k tokens) and the one from massive locks tradable.
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