Proly this is the solution of missing items

[Ignitedmage]

Wow, i thought you had better knowledge since i know you do videos too.It's shocking to see you actually don't know lol.

I'll try to make it simple since you obviously do not understand.
1) get 2 birds.
2) give them same stats.Until now, the skill damage is the same.
3) give 1 bird the new elites, the other bird a full lust set.
4) the bird with lust set has more crit, more dps, more BASE damage(weapon damage)
5) Skill damage will be different between the 2 birds because, they have same stats, but lust bird has more BASE damage, which is 1 of the stats that makes skill damage. Since all the other stats are the same on the 2 birds, the only relevant change for skill damage will be base damage.
6) if you still do not understand, do it on your bird. Get into a locked map and check skills. I made tests into frozen nightmares, good because the big yetis have lots of hp and you can test all you want.
7) if you still don't understand, i give up.

LOL

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One thing.... Lust sets got set bonus.

[Waug]

One thing.... Lust sets got set bonus.

don't u suggest others to read the posts properly?

As far is logan is concerned, there are some things that u don't need to test it on enemies, ur states tells everything, don't wanna be rude but I have full understanding how states tell the things, even ur old, u need to compare things just by states u don't need to test that on enemies, neither u can get proper understanding by testing a few times, just for example - let's say u have 50 crit, u tested a few times sometime u'll c 5 outa 10 sometime 4 outta 10 sometime 6 outta 10 are getting critted and even everything is possible but rarely on even dodge less enemies. To get the conclusion u have to do enormous tests with idle condition each & every time, but u would even would not bother to test that if u had proper understanding like me, because I know 50 crit means u gonna get 50% crits on an average but like lotteries u may get different results too - just a small example. But don't get me wrong there are things that need testing.

I'd agree with one thing tho, because I sold out lust I forget to compare with set value into this thus a small difference,but still the difference is so small that it does not matter if it's elix dominance,ur talking about 4-6 skill damage and few crit ofc, diff where by even a daily ur getting like 3x.

[Ignitedmage]

don't u suggest others to read the posts properly?

As far is logan is concerned, there are some things that u don't need to test it on enemies, ur states tells everything, don't wanna be rude but I have full understanding how states tell the things, even ur old, u need to compare things just by states u don't need to test that on enemies, neither u can get proper understanding by testing a few times, just for example - let's say u have 50 crit, u tested a few times sometime u'll c 5 outa 10 sometime 4 outta 10 sometime 6 outta 10 are getting critted and even everything is possible but rarely on even dodge less enemies. To get the conclusion u have to do enormous tests with idle condition each & every time, but u would even would not bother to test that if u had proper understanding like me, because I know 50 crit means u gonna get 50% crits on an average but like lotteries u may get different results too - just a small example. But don't get me wrong there are things that need testing.

I'd agree with one thing tho, because I sold out lust I forget to compare with set value into this thus a small difference,but still the difference is so small that it does not matter if it's elix dominance,ur talking about 4-6 skill damage and few crit ofc, diff where by even a daily ur getting like 3x.

The thing you explaining me is totally different from what i said...
As logan said that the lust sets are pretty good for pve addicts and he tested by auto-ing and the new elites were weaker in autos however lust was giving a high damage, i just said a little thing that if he was wearing full lust(if he was wearing only the weapon then my post shouldn't be read) then he should keep in mind that lust sets got set bonus(i.e bonus crit, damage etc etc, depends on set) however, the new map elites aren't even completed yet so they are missing set bonus and much damage too(every component adds a little damage.) which make em weaker as long as what logan was true.

[Waug]

The thing you explaining me is totally different from what i said...
As logan said that the lust sets are pretty good for pve addicts and he tested by auto-ing and the new elites were weaker in autos however lust was giving a high damage, i just said a little thing that if he was wearing full lust(if he was wearing only the weapon then my post shouldn't be read) then he should keep in mind that lust sets got set bonus(i.e bonus crit, damage etc etc, depends on set) however, the new map elites aren't even completed yet so they are missing set bonus and much damage too(every component adds a little damage.) which make em weaker as long as what logan was true.

It was alrdy mentioned somewhere, read first, as u suggest others.

[Loganayr]

The thing you explaining me is totally different from what i said...
As logan said that the lust sets are pretty good for pve addicts and he tested by auto-ing and the new elites were weaker in autos however lust was giving a high damage, i just said a little thing that if he was wearing full lust(if he was wearing only the weapon then my post shouldn't be read) then he should keep in mind that lust sets got set bonus(i.e bonus crit, damage etc etc, depends on set) however, the new map elites aren't even completed yet so they are missing set bonus and much damage too(every component adds a little damage.) which make em weaker as long as what logan was true.

That's exactly what i explained, the new sets have no bonus less damage and less crit, they already own at pvp but are currently weaker in pve. No point arguing with certain type of people anyway.

I also do hope cinco fix helms and that with new set bonus they will be better in pve too, us pvers want new stuff as well. Apparently cinco said fix will be after halloween. Fingers crossed.

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[Itoopeo]

What about flying/swift elite bow set?


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[Waug]

The thing you explaining me is totally different from what i said...
As logan said that the lust sets are pretty good for pve addicts and he tested by auto-ing and the new elites were weaker in autos however lust was giving a high damage, i just said a little thing that if he was wearing full lust(if he was wearing only the weapon then my post shouldn't be read) then he should keep in mind that lust sets got set bonus(i.e bonus crit, damage etc etc, depends on set) however, the new map elites aren't even completed yet so they are missing set bonus and much damage too(every component adds a little damage.) which make em weaker as long as what logan was true.

And y I didn't answer the rest, because I don't even read much logic from who thinks dex points r there for dodge, dex is for dodge, lol

[Ignitedmage]

And y I didn't answer the rest, because I don't even read much logic from who thinks dex points r there for dodge, dex is for dodge, lol

Well... read what you said and what i said

In short i was declaring that because of no bonus for the new sets, they are weaker and you are telling me that i need to compare things with stats and stuff but the SET BONUS is a part of stat.

[Waug]

Well... read what you said and what i said

In short i was declaring that because of no bonus for the new sets, they are weaker and you are telling me that i need to compare things with stats and stuff but the SET BONUS is a part of stat.

I was not referring to u in the first place rather logan, latter I said y did not even I read ur logics caz of dex-dodge thingy. I asked u to read the posts because u talked about the set bonus like none other said in this thread, I asked u to read all the posts, y i'd even suggest u to read the states, who think dex is for dodge lol. but u need explanations, ofc

look at this -



now -



I just compared armor, helm if available, wing and ofc weapon does provide extra damage, u can see that by urself in cs, no need to screen shot everything, but ofc it's lacking a few crits.

That's y new elites are still viable as far as damage is concerned and when everything adds up the difference between lust full set and elites without helm is minimal where damage is concerned.

[Healynn]

I was not referring to u in the first place rather logan, latter I said y did not even I read ur logics caz of dex-dodge thingy. I asked u to read the posts because u talked about the set bonus like none other said in this thread, I asked u to read all the posts, y i'd even suggest u to read the states, who think dex is for dodge lol. but u need explanations, ofc

look at this -



now -



I just compared armor, helm if available, wing and ofc weapon does provide extra damage, u can see that by urself in cs, no need to screen shot everything, but ofc it's lacking a few crits.

That's y new elites are still viable as far as damage is concerned and when everything adds up the difference between lust full set and elites without helm is minimal where damage is concerned.

And armor is way higher, plus dodge!

[Waug]

And armor is way higher, plus dodge!

That's of course but they just argued about the damage only

[yannjoel]

i dont think base damage is someone to base off skill damage from
compare a l77 lust sword and l60 strongman mace
they both have nearly the same base damage but the skill damage is much higher on lust sword

although in most situation higher base damage = higher skill damage

Int mages also have a higher skill dmg then str mages

[Madfisho]

Guess what, I discovered this elixer thing that makes shadow bosses spawn. It's cheeky because there's a ! It's really good as it gives you more chances to loot and it helps you not get stuck being eaten by little black things(shadows, not to be racist)!


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[Madfisho]

I was not referring to u in the first place rather logan, latter I said y did not even I read ur logics caz of dex-dodge thingy. I asked u to read the posts because u talked about the set bonus like none other said in this thread, I asked u to read all the posts, y i'd even suggest u to read the states, who think dex is for dodge lol. but u need explanations, ofc

look at this -



now -



I just compared armor, helm if available, wing and ofc weapon does provide extra damage, u can see that by urself in cs, no need to screen shot everything, but ofc it's lacking a few crits.

That's y new elites are still viable as far as damage is concerned and when everything adds up the difference between lust full set and elites without helm is minimal where damage is concerned.

first of all, you're comparing a STR elite with a Dex Lust. Str might have more damage then dex and we can't prove this yet because it doesn't exist, or just really really bad drop rate and no one has it. Secondly, sorry to say it, but I thought u had more then 7m. See what you have started? Please finish this some one!


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[Waug]

Int mages also have a higher skill dmg then str mages

He's not comparing int & str neither that has been said to the context of attribute point, though attribute point has great impact on skill damage. Groaning provided an example that how different weapons may have different impact on skill damage irrespective of same base damage to justify one of my statement, however though the concept he got is true but I can't justify the exact statement because I did not compare the exact items that he mentioned.

first of all, you're comparing a STR elite with a Dex Lust. Str might have more damage then dex and we can't prove this yet because it doesn't exist, or just really really bad drop rate and no one has it. Secondly, sorry to say it, but I thought u had more then 7m. See what you have started? Please finish this some one!


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Since when sentinel armor became STR ? if u still have doubt see green texts in the image - Req - Level 80, 205 base dex, I do have gold in other places why I have to put every thing at the same place, saw my listing of sentinel's armor, if that get sold, I would not even able to receive that due to gold cap exceed.

[Waug]

Int mages also have a higher skill dmg then str mages

He's not comparing int & str neither that has been said to the context of attribute point, though attribute point has great impact on skill damage. Groaning provided an example that how different weapons may have different impact on skill damage irrespective of same base damage to justify one of my statement, however though the concept he got is true but I can't justify the exact statement because I did not compare the exact items that he mentioned.

first of all, you're comparing a STR elite with a Dex Lust. Str might have more damage then dex and we can't prove this yet because it doesn't exist, or just really really bad drop rate and no one has it. Secondly, sorry to say it, but I thought u had more then 7m. See what you have started? Please finish this some one!


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Since when sentinel armor became STR ? if u still have doubt see green texts in the image - Req - Level 80, 205 base dex, plus read the whole thread, its not about proving new set vs old one. I do have gold in other places why I have to put every thing at the same place, saw my listing of sentinel's armor, if that get sold, I would not even able to receive that due to gold cap exceed.

[Befs]

That's exactly what i explained, the new sets have no bonus less damage and less crit, they already own at pvp but are currently weaker in pve. No point arguing with certain type of people anyway.

I also do hope cinco fix helms and that with new set bonus they will be better in pve too, us pvers want new stuff as well. Apparently cinco said fix will be after halloween. Fingers crossed.

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It seems like ur trying to drop their price xD

And skill damage does not relate to base damage (entirely)

For example 35 dark wands do much less base damage than pins, yet deal the same skill damage.

[Bazinga!]

Now read this -



also read in bold -

I said it in the context that they have been told by cinco, while what I said.

I really don't get this mentality, I opened up something hot and good topic for everyone with proper justification & clarifications, and peoples try to decline that, May I asked if ya know this (most probably) then y don't bother to public this things for good for everyone, probably because keeping this things secret would make it way much more viable for earning pyramid of gold.

Also the way u claimed that like u know everything about me and even the moment I get to know u was doing dinner with me. :O

I know that someone told you about this, so you didn't discover it by yourself any way. Usually I can understand what you're trying to say, and I know that English isn't your first language, but what you wrote didn't make any sense at all.

[Waug]

I know that someone told you about this, so you didn't discover it by yourself any way. Usually I can understand what you're trying to say, and I know that English isn't your first language, but what you wrote didn't make any sense at all.

so the question is who told me and when? because u must know as u just mentioned. and how u know that?

[Bazinga!]

so the question is who told me and when? because u must know as u just mentioned. and how u know that?

Becasue I'm good friends with the guy who told you about it.