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    no to buff warr in pvp. they are already extremely tough. as "most" mages, rogues (alone or in a group) are not even able to bring down a single well-geared warrior in tdf, ctf.

    in pve, i guess sts has to take a look into possibilities. dont get me wrong. i love the big guys.

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    We need a jugg fix for endgame tho

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    An equally geared rogue should almost always be able to kill an equally geared warrior. Sorry!

    An equally geared Mage should almost always be able to kill an equally geared warrior. Sorry!


    Warriors do need balancing because right now, there is no Rock Paper Scissors combat triangle. There's just rock and scissors absolutely destroying the paper (tanks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    An equally geared rogue should almost always be able to kill an equally geared warrior. Sorry!

    An equally geared Mage should almost always be able to kill an equally geared warrior. Sorry!


    Warriors do need balancing because right now, there is no Rock Paper Scissors combat triangle. There's just rock and scissors absolutely destroying the paper (tanks).
    i did not say the best rogues or mages with 20 paras and 20 eyes. i was talking about "most" of them cant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachnophobik View Post
    We need a jugg fix for endgame tho
    right, thats true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glendame View Post
    i did not say the best rogues or mages with 20 paras and 20 eyes. i was talking about "most" of them cant.
    You said most compared to a well geared warrior. Well, of course if you're under geared you will lose. However equal geared (note I did not say max) you should not lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    You said most compared to a well geared warrior. Well, of course if you're under geared you will lose. However equal geared (note I did not say max) you should not lose.
    you dont have to say sorry becaue were not talking about about the same situation

    from my observation, in a common scenario 2v2 warr and rogue vs rogue and rogue or rogue and mage, they often cry " the omg tank'.

    i dont often hear omg the rogue or omg the mage. again common scenario.

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    my dmg 814 36% crit with nekro 4800hp with legend bow , armor and helm can kill warrior with 3k armor using the new mythic helm and new mythic weapon

    Twink warriors are OP endgame warriors Trash
    For me? Buff the new weapon for warriors not the warrior when sts buff the warrior , warrior twinks will rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Order View Post
    my dmg 814 36% crit with nekro 4800hp with legend bow , armor and helm can kill warrior with 3k armor using the new mythic helm and new mythic weapon

    Twink warriors are OP endgame warriors Trash
    For me? Buff the new weapon for warriors not the warrior when sts buff the warrior , warrior twinks will rule.
    814 dmg and 36% crit vs maxed tank ?

    I'm pretty sure you are lacking on stats department. David vs Goliath used be very inspirational story in the Old Testament. I'm pretty sure it won't be reedited in PvP.

    When i hear word "twink" Im loling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Order View Post
    my dmg 814 36% crit with nekro 4800hp with legend bow , armor and helm can kill warrior with 3k armor using the new mythic helm and new mythic weapon

    Twink warriors are OP endgame warriors Trash
    For me? Buff the new weapon for warriors not the warrior when sts buff the warrior , warrior twinks will rule.
    I dont think so bud.. unless that warr is a _ _ _ _ .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium View Post
    814 dmg and 36% crit vs maxed tank ?

    I'm pretty sure you are lacking on stats department. David vs Goliath used be very inspirational story in the Old Testament. I'm pretty sure it won't be reedited in PvP.

    When i hear word "twink" Im loling.
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    tanks here just say "fix juggernaut". And nothing happens. No jug fix to today

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    This post is ridiculous really. First off forget about twinks. I know there is a community of people that play them but I highly doubt that Sts invests all this money into their game have only mages and rogues play endgame.

    If you are having difficulty beating and equally geared tank than you just need to practice.

    Tanks are armor, hit point, and damage deficient at end game. And it has been this way for over 2 seasons. It is neglectful and ridiculous to be honest. You can not find a skilled rogue or mage at end game that would argue this.

    It's not about tanks dominating or any class dominating for that matter. It's about balance and right now there is non.

    It's fine though because the end result will be that Sts will continue to lose lots of really good players simply due to neglect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glendame View Post
    no to buff warr in pvp. they are already extremely tough. as "most" mages, rogues (alone or in a group) are not even able to bring down a single well-geared warrior in tdf, ctf.

    in pve, i guess sts has to take a look into possibilities. dont get me wrong. i love the big guys.
    In twink level most likely warriors will win even in 1 vs 1 but in endgame in 1 vs 1 then warrior will most likely lose. But in 5 vs 5 the more warriors will definely win as hor gives invulnerability to the whole group with great timing they can be invulnerable for the whole match. That is why I agree with you, no buff to warrior class. Invulnerability + more survivability (If buffed) is imba already. Remove anks and remove 1 hit kill from bosses, sts is absurb making warriors 1 - 2 hits by bosses as well, it should only be applicable to mages and rogues only then warriors will be needed again. STS system kill warrior and not warrior being weak. Sts should think of another way and remove ankhs as their primary milk farm. Is damage, luck, exp, speed elixir, lock chest popping(best item in one place and it requires $) not enough? Sts implemented ankhs but they also make sure all of us can be 1 hit by bosses. In my opinion it is pure greed already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glendame View Post
    you dont have to say sorry becaue were not talking about about the same situation

    from my observation, in a common scenario 2v2 warr and rogue vs rogue and rogue or rogue and mage, they often cry " the omg tank'.

    i dont often hear omg the rogue or omg the mage. again common scenario.
    The situation you just described does not make a warrior overpowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    The situation you just described does not make a warrior overpowered.
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    I don't want to be the mood killer but i can remember the release of arcane maul. I don't exactly know how many of my 30k pvp death went to warriors stun locking my mage with the glitched arcane maul that had a stun ignoring stun immunity on top of its huge damage output. At that time an average warrior with just arcane maul could start the fight with axe or skyward -> stun -> do big damage -> then arcane maul procs -> stun -> do big damage -> hit samaels AA -> "stun" -> do big damage -> dead -> repeat.

    I cant remember a single warrior complaining about that and i can tell you it wasn't fun at all to play as a mage against warriors at this time, STG fixed that after nearly 2 years! So now juggernaut isn't fixed for some weeks/month -> i feel ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    The situation you just described does not make a warrior overpowered.
    i did not mentioned op. what im saying is they are already tough enough.

    maybe they are looking for a fix in skill/s or change in weapon type and better roles in pve. but definitely not a buff.

    what "buff" u looking for sir? add 100 str there 500 hp here and 1000 more armor? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by glendame View Post
    i did not mentioned op. what im saying is they are already tough enough.

    maybe they are looking for a fix in skill/s or change in weapon type. but definitely not a buff.

    what "buff" u looking for sir? add 100 str there 500 hp here and 1000 more armor? lol
    If you losing to tanks it is your fault. You are the one messing up, and its not because the tank is overpowered.

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